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Comment by: SDF_GR (May 17, 2008 16:30)

How i see it, Sony & MS have nothing to do with this, they didnt develop the game, rockstar is the issue, they made the game and they should fix it, they got the $500 mil's and its "their" responsibility "their" game to work.
You can find hundred games for both consoles that works perfect to both consoles.
Thats congrats for Sony and MS or for [e.x.] Capcom, Ubisoft, EA that they know how to make a game work? IMO the 2nd.
Also see Assassins Creed, Ubisoft released a patch not Sony.

Some developers will remain small and useless even if they sell 200zilion copy's.
You cant blame the Hardware for crapy software.

Comment by: ripxrush (May 17, 2008 23:54)

i have a 360 & am looking into a PS3, i think that sony tryes to ignore the problem& dosent do jack about it! another thing is that sony fans act liek it wont happen to them cause they have a PS3 & wehen it does i think 360 fans rub it in a little more
crap baby gettign into stuff later

Comment by: Vr0cK (May 18, 2008 00:02)

The title of this article should be "Take Two ignores GTA IV issues for PS3". It just makes it seem like Sony is the one to blame for these issues. Developers make games for the system already created, not the other way around. Such examples such as Orange Box and Lair, it wasnt Sony that needed to fix it but the developers themselves. IMO

Comment by: DXR88 (May 18, 2008 00:45)

It failed on my 40 gig unit. i think it may be something they did with the console itself. as people are getting allot of mixed results.

I'm no expert but i don't think its the games fault, as my friends ps3 plays it just fine.

Comment by: NexGen76 (May 18, 2008 00:52)

My 60 work just fine from day one.How is it that one game is screwing up on PS3 & its Sony fault.But all the other games on PS3 work just fine sound like people are trying to make this a Sony issue.

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PS3 firmware update ignores Grand Theft Auto IV issues

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Firmwares are made months in advance they didn't ignore the issue so i think that is a little misleading.Its clear this effect both systems this is a R* issue not Sony or Microsoft.

Comment by: DXR88 (May 18, 2008 01:18)

NexGen I don't want to sound harsh but the game was delayed to get it to work correctly for PS3 was it Not.

it could very well be trash code on Rockstar's end, but getting mix results from the same game on multiple PS3 Consoles. it just sounds to iffy to me.

Perhaps a lack of communication or tests from rockstar. did they test it on all major Reversions of ps3's or did they do there testing on just one. did Sony provide the information rockstar needed to make a highly reliable game.

we will never no the truth.

Comment by: viny1313 (May 18, 2008 01:23)

My game crashed once when I first put it in and did one f the first Roman missions... 42% later and I haven't had any other problems what so ever. I don't see what the big deal is :S

I'm on a 60GB too...

Comment by: hulud86 (May 18, 2008 01:35)

Originally posted by spydah:

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I have not had one issue with my PS3 freezing. I wish people stop either going overboard with the blame game and either fix the problem or at least say hey we are at least working on it.

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Don't jinx yourself

Comment by: SDF_GR (May 18, 2008 01:46)

Originally posted by Vr0cK:

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The title of this article should be "Take Two ignores GTA IV issues for PS3".

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Exactly.
Something else, people that owns the Arcade version of 360, how the hell will be able to patch the game?(if a patch ever exists)
Arcade version doesn't have an HDD.
I never liked GTA series but now rockstar and T2 proved their incapability all the way.
The best selling game so far with the greatest issues so far.

Originally posted by DXR88:

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Perhaps a lack of communication or tests from rockstar. did they test it on all major Reversions of ps3's or did they do there testing on just one. did Sony provide the information rockstar needed to make a highly reliable game.

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Dont forget that GTA has issues to 360 too.
Just a matter of luck or RS wanted to take it out ASAP to get the money? I think is the money.

A question tho....
Has anyone ever asked a fix patch from Nvidia or ATI for a PC game?
How the hell you ask for a fix from MS and Sony?

Comment by: DXR88 (May 18, 2008 03:16)

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A question tho....
Has anyone ever asked a fix patch from Nvidia or ATI for a PC game?
How the hell you ask for a fix from MS and Sony?

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actually yeah there have been some games that wouldn't run until the driver updates came from the GFX manufactures which had the information needed to correctly render the game.

Comment by: NexGen76 (May 18, 2008 03:25)

Originally posted by DXR88:

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NexGen I don't want to sound harsh but the game was delayed to get it to work correctly for PS3 was it Not.

it could very well be trash code on Rockstar's end, but getting mix results from the same game on multiple PS3 Consoles. it just sounds to iffy to me.

Perhaps a lack of communication or tests from rockstar. did they test it on all major Reversions of ps3's or did they do there testing on just one. did Sony provide the information rockstar needed to make a highly reliable game.

we will never no the truth.

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Question is there any other game on the PS3 console that has this issue? NO

Why is it(not you)but the first thing that come out people mouth is Sony.Sony didn't make the game only the system.So every game title that comes out that crash on this system is Sony fault because Dev don't want to take the time & test every possible solution that could go wrong.


Sony getting more press for this mess when R* should admit they didn't do there job right they rush this game to get there money plain & simple.This isn't a Sony only issue 360 having the same problem so thats got to come back on R*

Comment by: DXR88 (May 18, 2008 03:37)

haha nice try but im not gonna get caught up with your fanboy arguments.
keep them to yourself.

if you would read my comment as a hole and stop picking things out that suit you ideals, i said it

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could very well be trash code on Rockstar's end

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i bolded it so that you could read it better.

i don't believe its one sided however, as lack of communication beetween rockstar and Sony may have led to an unpolished product.

Comment by: NexGen76 (May 18, 2008 14:17)

Originally posted by DXR88:

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haha nice try but im not gonna get caught up with your fanboy arguments.
keep them to yourself.

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1.Before you call someone a Fan boy read AD rules because comments like that you wont be around here much longer my friend.There is zero tolerance on this fan boy crap.

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Originally posted by DXR88:

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if you would read my comment as a hole and stop picking things out that suit you ideals, i said it

Quote:could very well be trash code on Rockstar's end

i bolded it so that you could read it better.

i don't believe its one sided however, as lack of communication beetween rockstar and Sony may have led to an unpolished product.

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Please read your post or beware of the things you say because in one post you clearly said.



I'm no expert but i don't think its the games fault, as my friends ps3 plays it just fine.

2.As i and other members here have try to explain to you that how irony that the game crash on both systems not just PS3.So what does that tell you if Sony or Microsoft hasn't had any issue with software crashing.I'm sorry your having these issues & i hope you get it fixed but please read posts clearly before you accuse someone of being a Fan boy which i find highly childish thing to say.

Comment by: DXR88 (May 18, 2008 16:01)

Whatever you say,Nexgen.Whatever you say.

Comment by: shaffaaf (May 18, 2008 18:29)

Originally posted by DXR88:

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Whatever you say,Nexgen.Whatever you say.

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what a well structured rebuttle, i think nexgen, you lost


xD

nexgen, wipe the floor please :D

Comment by: Oner (May 18, 2008 20:12)

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Comment by: DXR88 (May 18, 2008 22:04)

Not my intention to keep it up, Oner.

Comment by: Gradical (May 19, 2008 03:17)

well, i see many people saying that is the publisher's fault, but even if it has anything to do with some speciffic revision of the console having the probs, it sounds like its sony's problem, just because the consoles where never ment to be like they're now, how many nes revisions and firmware where there? on snes? on ps1 on N64, Ps2 GC or Xbox?, as compared to PS3 or Xbx360??? its just ridiculous its obvious publishers wont be able to keep it up

Comment by: Hunt720 (May 19, 2008 12:18)

Originally posted by Gradical:

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well, i see many people saying that is the publisher's fault, but even if it has anything to do with some speciffic revision of the console having the probs, it sounds like its sony's problem, just because the consoles where never ment to be like they're now, how many nes revisions and firmware where there? on snes? on ps1 on N64, Ps2 GC or Xbox?, as compared to PS3 or Xbx360??? its just ridiculous its obvious publishers wont be able to keep it up

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I think the firmware on the NES, SNES, N64, PS2, and GC was pretty static to say the least. The current gen of consoles offers much more in the way of capabilities, and I think it was smart to add firmware upating capabilities to the consoles as their potential can be increased. I don't think this is a firmware issue however.

I'm wondering what the process is exactly, that the developers go through to make sure that this game runs smoothly on both consoles. Take two originally cited the release of Halo 3 as the main reason they didn't want to release the game in the fall. Then later changed their story to having "technical challenges" with the PS3. I don't doubt either story is at least partially true, as Halo was HUGE, and publishers have been focusing primarilly on the 360 DK since they started making this game as that system was out first.

I just want to know who it was that said "The game checks out" and then sent it off to be published.

BUT, if for some reason it IS a firmware issue that is messing up the game, then both companies have an option to update the firmware and solve the problem. That is the beauty of having an updateable firmware to me.

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Comment by: FredBun (Jun 12, 2008 03:25)

My son just got a ps3, he will rent grand theft later, will post on how it goes.

Comment by: NexGen76 (Jun 23, 2008 18:39)

Grand Theft Auto IV patch finally here

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Well, finally. We were hoping this would come sooner, but better late than never, no? The widely reported problems of "freezes during certain modes" and "multiplayer connectivity issues" finally have a remedy - a patch has just been released by Rockstar for Grand Theft Auto IV. An apology was also included in the patch notes, along with details of each problem resolved.

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http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/06/23/gran...h-finally-here/



Just like i said this was a R* issue not Sony.They owe Sony a major apology for throwing them under the Bus because R* last firmware didn't solve the issue & they past blame on Sony.

Comment by: varnull (Jun 23, 2008 19:03)

I do like the idea of throwing $ony under a bus.. I can see Ken bouncing under the wheels as I type.. heheheheh..

But seriously.. This is a strange affair. M$ started all this firmware/dash/other junk updates to your hardware installed from games, and now sony have followed. I don't see the point unless it is to try and keep one step in front of the game copiers out there. While it adds no consumer visible benefit it does run the risk of a patch rendering all your previously bought and paid for games unplayable until another rushed patch is found..

Come back the days when you bought your console and your games and gave it no more thought. I think these corporations have got too clever for their own good.

Free open source software = made by end users who want an application to work. Im going outside now.. and I may be some time........

Comment by: stu665 (Jun 24, 2008 13:33)

Ahhh, good ole SoNy....the PS3 has been a bit of a riot since release. I used to be a SoNy fan but now i stick to Xbox360 for my online gaming. No need to install anything from disc to it, no messing about just sling the disc in and play. The amount of people that slagged me off when i got a 360 was unbelievable, now the same people are gutted that they wasted their hard earned cash on the PS3 instead of buying a 360. Most of them have sold their PS3's(for quite a loss too) and have now purchased a decent console ie the 360. Fair dos, the 360 does have problems of its own, mainly the 'three red lights of death' but at least they offer a 3 year warranty, no quibbles repair or swap for a new base unit.

As far as i can see xbox360 has given the PS3 a right good butt-kicking, i for one will not be purchasing the ugly decrepit PS3.