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Comment by: Hardwyre (May 14, 2008 13:55)

Rockstar confirms episodic GTA IV Content 360-only



'nuff said.

Comment by: Ryu77 (May 14, 2008 14:21)

Originally posted by Hardwyre:

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Rockstar confirms episodic GTA IV Content 360-only



'nuff said.

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That article is almost a year old. Is it still accurate?

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Comment by: lxhotboy (May 15, 2008 08:07)

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That article is almost a year old. Is it still accurate?

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http://videogamecentral.com/gamersvoice/...odes-this-fall/
http://kotaku.com/373700/sony-shrugs-off...-content-in-pr-
http://www.n4g.com/News-129170.aspx
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=770465

(I know the last link is to a forum post but the guys info comes
straight out of a Playstation Magazine)



I have seen commercials for GTA IV before but only untill a few minutes ago did i see one that ended with the following:

"Download exclusive episodes on Xbox LIVE starting Fall 2008"

Now the definition of the word EXCLUSIVEin my book doesnot mean that it will be released initially on Xbox 360 and then later on PS3.

Anyone else seen this commercial yet? I thought i was tripping at first but then i thought, you have a DVR, so i rewinded and paused the commercial to confirm. Now all you who say that PS3 will get DLC too are correct. I apoligize. But the DLC for the PS3 will be avatars and things that will be utilized in PS3's HOME when it is released, PS3 will not see the DLC that will have the two additional episodes. Sony themselves even confirms this. (Check the links) That particular DLC is for XBOX360 owners only. So i guess both will get DLC after all but PS3 will be getting the DLC with the new episodes. Common sense should have told people that Microsoft didnot pay all that money only for a temporary exclusive. It wouldnot make sense if you think about their gains and loses if that were true. Now i can say again. Xbox360 version is the version to buy. I only feel sorry for those who bought the PS3 version, who happen to have both consoles. They have been misled by people posting who only had half the story and dont know what they are talking about. I guess their only aurgument now will be the issue with the RROD since they have been proven wrong.

DLC for PS3 = related to PS3's upcoming "HOME"
DLC for Xbox 360 = two new episodes

I agree with the sony guy,in the end will Microsoft make up for all that money with that exclusice DLC? $50 million is a lot of money.

Comment by: nobrainer (May 15, 2008 08:50)

Originally posted by lxhotboy:

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Originally posted by Ryu77:

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That article is almost a year old. Is it still accurate?

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I have seen commercials for GTA IV before but only untill a few minutes ago did i see one that ended with the following:

"Download exclusive episodes on Xbox LIVE starting Fall 2008"

Now the definition of the word EXCLUSIVEin my book doesnot mean that it will be released initially on Xbox 360 and then later on PS3.

DLC for PS3 = related to PS3's upcoming "HOME"
DLC for Xbox 360 = two new episodes (exclusive for $50 million)

But in the end will Microsoft make up for all that money with that exclusice DLC. $50 million is a lot of money.

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@ lxhotboy

Ryu77 full well knows that the content is exclusive and still valid, check his previous posts. don't rise to the behaviour lxhotboy.

so is there any news on just how much this sony themed home space will actually cost seems it is just virtual eye candy and not a playable game?

home = throw your money away purchasing useless graphics that isn't even a playable game, and to top it all sony are selling ALL your details on to advertisers! i think that the top scammers at sony have watched Futurama, Bender's Big Score recently and are using their spongers to ...........

Comment by: lxhotboy (May 15, 2008 09:38)

Both versions of GTA IV are excellent and recieve basically the same scores. Im not going to resort to name calling and other stupidity b/c it aint that serious but just wait till someone really immature replyies to this post and then we will have something to laugh about.
I dont know about the Home thing. It could turn out to be a huge success if sony puts the effort into "HOME" and tries to fix its limited online features, it could put significant pressure on Xbox live. Especially when i am not too thrilled to pay for Xbox live. It is great but being a PS2 supporter for a long time, i believe it should be free. If sony can provide access for free then why cant Microsoft. They are just greedy and i guess i am just stupid. J.D Rockafeller was the richest man to ever live. He actually had less money but with inflation taken into consideration he was actually richer than Bill Gates is today. Micrsoft already makes enough money, i am using windows vista right now. LOL they need to declare windows software a monopoly.

Comment by: Ryu77 (May 15, 2008 12:25)

Originally posted by nobrainer:

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@ lxhotboy

Ryu77 full well knows that the content is exclusive and still valid, check his previous posts. don't rise to the behaviour lxhotboy.

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Actually nobrainer, my question was a genuine one. I wasn't sure if it was still accurate which is why I asked. Your perspective is one that is quite altered due to your obvious anti Sony stance.

Please don't assume things. I am not into the immature games that so often get played here at AfterDawn. My focus is always to find a resolution to disputes that regularly get out of control. I always post with accurate information and I always approach things in a diplomatic and mature manner.

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Comment by: Oner (May 15, 2008 17:18)

Originally posted by Ryu77:

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Originally posted by nobrainer:

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@ lxhotboy

Ryu77 full well knows that the content is exclusive and still valid, check his previous posts. don't rise to the behaviour lxhotboy.

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Actually nobrainer, my question was a genuine one. I wasn't sure if it was still accurate which is why I asked. Your perspective is one that is quite altered due to your obvious anti Sony stance.

Please don't assume things. I am not into the immature games that so often get played here at AfterDawn. My focus is always to find a resolution to disputes that regularly get out of control. I always post with accurate information and I always approach things in a diplomatic and mature manner.

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Ryu don't even bother wasting your time and effort we all know what this "soap box" poster is about. Funny how you talk about peoples behavior nobrainer but yet cannot fathom your own misgivings NUMEROUS times prior.

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Comment by: saltynuts (May 15, 2008 18:35)

wow it never fails,its automatic

Comment by: Oner (May 16, 2008 12:20)

Care to elaborate on what that refers too?

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Comment by: nobrainer (May 16, 2008 19:11)

NPD data would suggest that the 360 sold more copies than the 360 of gta, almost a 2 to 1 margin by the 360, maybe because of the exclusive missions to be added at a later date or maybe because the 360 version is running at 720p HD resolution, while the PS3 has been released at 640 resolution and dogged by glitches, who knows but the data is here for april.

Nintendo Wii outsells 360, PS3, PS2, PSP combined in April

Originally posted by link:

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Published: May 16, 2008 - 10:45AM CT

The NPD console sales numbers have been released for April, stuffed with fascinating content. How did the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of Grand Theft Auto stack up against each other? Did Mario Kart Wii sell as many copies as expected? Will Nintendo continue its winning streak?

Before we break things down by company, it's important to point out that the games industry is still going strong. "The industry continues to set a blistering sales pace, and now shows a year-to-date increase of 31 percent over last year's record-setting revenues," NPD Group's Anita Frazier said.
Nintendo

Surprising absolutely no one, Nintendo took the number one and two slots in hardware sales. The Wii sold 714,200 units while the Nintendo DS moved 414,800 units (third place sales go to the PSP with 192,700 units). This month the Wii outsold the Playstation 2, PlayStation 3, PSP, and Xbox 360... combined.

While Grand Theft Auto IV took up the first (360) and third (PS3) slots in software sales, Mario Kart Wii came in number two with 1.12 million units sold in April. Frazier calls it "a classic example of counter-programming." Wii Play came in number four with 360,000 units sold, Super Smash Bros. Brawl came in at number five with 326,000 units, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness and Time came in at numbers seven and eight, with both games selling 202,000 units. Guitar Hero III took the number nine slot with 152,000 units. All told, Nintendo games took up six of the top ten games for April.

Microsoft may choose to say that it's not competing with Nintendo, and that's probably a smart move. No one is even coming close to matching these sales numbers.
Microsoft

The Xbox 360 did outsell the PS3 with 188,000 units sold, but it only led by 900 units against the PlayStation 3. The 360 also had the best-selling game with Grand Theft Auto IV selling (1.85 million units) and the tenth best selling game with Call of Duty 4 (141,000 units).

Sony has already begun to take some of the shine out of Microsoft's Grand Theft Auto IV win. "There's a larger installed base right now on Xbox 360 than on PS3. So it's not surprising that there's going to be more selling on Xbox 360 than PS3. Having said that, we're really excited about the ratio," PlayStation senior vice president of marketing Peter Dille told N'Gai Croal. "If I had an installed base advantage of 3-1, I wouldn't be crowing too much about a 60-40 sales advantage."

Microsoft added a note about its online play in its reactions to the sales numbers. "Gamers eager to experience Grand Theft Auto IV online helped boost Xbox LIVE global membership totals to over 12 million this month... the Xbox LIVE service has doubled in membership in only one year's time." Microsoft also brought up the exclusive downloadable content coming to the 360 version of Grand Theft Auto IV.
Sony

As we've already noted, the PlayStation 3 came within 900 units of the Xbox 360 sales for April; the system moved 187,100 units in total. The PlayStation Portable moved 192,700 units to come in third place behind the monster that is Nintendo, and the PlayStation 2 saw quite the sales slip as it only moved 124,400 units in April. (In March, the classic system moved 216,000 units.)

Sony had two entries in the top ten games list. The PS3 version of Grand Theft Auto IV came in at number three with 1 million units sold and Gran Turismo 5: Prologue took the sixth slot with 224,000 units sold.

Hardware in general didn't see the bump that many expected. Anita Frazier has a few thoughts on why. "It was surprising not to see bigger hardware sales for the Xbox 360 and the PS3 given the release of GTA IV. However, since the game was only in the market for 5 days during this reporting period, that sales lift could very well be evident in May data."

It's hard to imagine a time when Microsoft or Sony are able to make any headway against Nintendo's impenetrable hold on this generation, but the race for number three behind the Nintendo Wii and DS continues.

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Comment by: lxhotboy (May 16, 2008 20:19)

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maybe because the 360 version is running at 720p HD resolution, while the PS3 has been released at 640 resolution

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I thought the Xbox360 ran at 720p/1080i/1080p. At least that is what is on the back of the game case. Once it gets out and more people realize that the Xbox version has the exclusive two episodes I expect the sales number to rise even more for xbox360.

Comment by: nobrainer (May 16, 2008 20:50)

Originally posted by lxhotboy:

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Quote:

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maybe because the 360 version is running at 720p HD resolution, while the PS3 has been released at 640 resolution

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I thought the Xbox360 ran at 720p/1080i/1080p. At least that is what is on the back of the game case. Once it gets out and more people realize that the Xbox version has the exclusive two episodes I expect the sales number to rise even more for xbox360.

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the native resolution is 720p HD on the 360 and PS3 is 640.

Comment by: saltynuts (May 17, 2008 01:28)

Originally posted by Oner:

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Care to elaborate on what that refers too?[/quot

Comment by: saltynuts (May 17, 2008 01:46)

Originally posted by saltynuts:

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Originally posted by Oner:

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Care to elaborate on what that refers too?[/quot=

are you talking to me?

Comment by: Oner (May 17, 2008 02:40)

Yes for clarification.

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Comment by: saltynuts (May 17, 2008 12:18)

Originally posted by Oner:

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Yes for clarification.

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i see you feel a little frisky and really want to poke that little chest of yours out by pushing the ban button if i say the wrong thing to you but no thanks i wont play your childish game.

and by the way as a mod i think you suck because out of all the mods i seen here you are the only one that start crap.

Comment by: Ryu77 (May 17, 2008 12:44)

Originally posted by saltynuts:

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wow it never fails,its automatic

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Ok, well I am not a mod & I would like to know what you meant by that? Saltynuts, do you seriously expect us to see a clear meaning in that statement?

Are we talking about an Automatic BMW that starts every morning? :-P

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Comment by: saltynuts (May 17, 2008 15:38)

Originally posted by Ryu77:

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Originally posted by saltynuts:

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wow it never fails,its automatic

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Ok, well I am not a mod & I would like to know what you meant by that? Saltynuts, do you seriously expect us to see a clear meaning in that statement?

Are we talking about an Automatic BMW that starts every morning? :-P

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ok if it was meant for you then you would know what i was trying to say,you are a trouble maker in your own little way you always attack any post that is not pro sony,Nobrainer makes some pretty good post here i know i been watching and you and that mod always attack like a pack of wild dogs.just because you dont like what someone is saying dont mean its bad,that is all i want to say and if i get banned then so be it but i know i did not break any rules.and in the future if you know a comment was not directed at you,dont worry about it because i really was not talking to you.

Comment by: Ryu77 (May 17, 2008 21:29)

Originally posted by saltynuts:

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ok if it was meant for you then you would know what i was trying to say,you are a trouble maker in your own little way you always attack any post that is not pro sony,Nobrainer makes some pretty good post here i know i been watching and you and that mod always attack like a pack of wild dogs.just because you dont like what someone is saying dont mean its bad,that is all i want to say and if i get banned then so be it but i know i did not break any rules.and in the future if you know a comment was not directed at you,dont worry about it because i really was not talking to you.

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Listen up Mr. Saltynuts... It's an open forum, meaning that anybody can contribute. How was I or Oner meant to know who you directed your comment to? Nobrainer does nothing but attack Sony & Blu-ray. I do far more here at AfterDawn than attack People's posts. I actually contribute quite a lot of help in various forums. My posts are always delivered in a fair and mature way and I always back up my point with solid proof.

I will never understand why people join a thread to rubbish and say negative things about products that they don't like. My intention on this thread was not to rubbish the XBox 360, I never do that. I asked a question and nobrainer incorrectly assumed that I was looking to start problems, when in fact my question was genuine.

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Comment by: Oner (May 17, 2008 21:52)

Good Bye. Looks like it is time I go back to being the ban first ask no questions later type of mod again....no sweat off my back, it just makes my work a lot easier here.

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Comment by: indublin (May 19, 2008 14:03)

Hmmm not the best thread to learn about the 360 then?

I just bought one anyway, and GTAIV... having lots of fun..

I've been a sony buyer for yrs.. trying this thing out and no complaints as yet!

Comment by: rvinkebob (May 20, 2008 02:47)

Originally posted by Hardwyre:

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Rockstar confirms episodic GTA IV Content 360-only



'nuff said.

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Stats say that 90% GTAIV player's on the 360 don't even care, or won't care for DLC until 2009 :P

By the way, PS3 - 13 million sales worldwide... 360 - 19 million sales. Now tell me, 40% for PS3 and 60% for the 360 with 6 million more people owning 360's even though it came out a whole year earlier. Let's go back to Grade 3 kids; the probability of people buying GTAIV on the 360 is higher, is it not? But by how much... you do the math ;)

Comment by: lxhotboy (May 20, 2008 06:17)

LOL... I feel ya on the numbers but the game hasnot been out long yet and most people dont realize the DLC will be exclusive to Xbox360 with the new episodes. Once the game has been out for a while and word gets around more people will start buying the xbox360 version just bc it has the exclusive content.

Comment by: BANNEDX10 (May 23, 2008 00:23)

i think both versions are pretty good but the extra content is welcome from the xbox.

Comment by: LOCOENG (May 23, 2008 06:31)

Originally posted by BANNEDX10:

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i think both versions are pretty good but the extra content is welcome from the xbox.

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