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Comment by: polegirl (Apr 30, 2008 00:11)

As a matter of interest i e-mailed RS, they have no plans to release on PS2..... i reminded them of how many sales they will lose, didnt reply to that one!!! Even Eidos, are gonna release 'Tomb Raider Underworld' on PS2 as well as PS3 - forward thinking there! good for them and me!! Remember Resident Evil, that wasnt exactly a huge Box Office hit!!!

Comment by: locobrown (Apr 30, 2008 02:45)

They are just saying that, everybody wants to make money it will be released for PS2 soon enough, but its not helping. Microsoft stopped manufacturing consoles by mid 2006 and stopped making games after 2007. Why continue to manufacture PS2 if the PS3 is on the shelves? Money yes, I don’t blame them but this could lead to frustration of many.

Comment by: mike.m (Apr 30, 2008 03:36)

Can anyone who owns this game comment about it? Because if its anything like the other GTA games, I ain't buying it, never been a fan of them.

Comment by: nobrainer (Apr 30, 2008 06:18)

Originally posted by mike.m:

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Can anyone who owns this game comment about it? Because if its anything like the other GTA games, I ain't buying it, never been a fan of them.

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not even bothering with the hype waiting for the pc ver. consoles are just an excuses to flog what has always been free user generated content.

boycott anti consumer!


Battlefield: Bad Company Boycott Video

Originally posted by above vid link:

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The official Sarcastic Gamer video to accompany a full-on boycott of EA's new title until they stop CHARGING for GUNS for a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER.

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Comment by: nobrainer (Apr 30, 2008 07:06)

*Warning*

read before you purchase. maybe its worth waiting for the first patch (on a console lol) to purchase this title!

http://kotaku.com/385183/rockstar-suppor...ze-fix-in-sight

Originally posted by link:

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Earlier today we broke the news that some Grand Theft Auto IV gamers were having problems with the game on both the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360.

For them, the game was freezing up during the introductory cut-scene, something that neither I nor Mike experienced during our time with the game on both systems. To be clear, we have no idea how widespread the problem is, but it's certainly on Rockstar's radar and making the rounds both in our tips line and on forums.

Rockstar declined to comment on the issue officially, so I went to the phone and called up Rockstar Support to see what they had to say about the problem.

A very friendly, and obviously unhappy, fellow answered the phone who, after thanking me for not yelling at him and apologizing profusely for the problem, spilled quite a bit of beans on the issue:

The man told me that the problem is apparently only effecting the 60 GB version of the Playstation 3, but that it didn't matter than my particular console was a launch console (Yes, I told a little white lie and said my copy was locking up.) He said the problem is not across the board for the 60GB PS3s but rather only impacts some, so their tech folks are working around the clock to try and figure out what is causing the issue.

He did ask me to make sure that my harddrive wasn't full and that I had the latest firmware update, but confessed that that really isn't what's causing most of the problem. He also said that the Xbox 360 is having the "exact same problem," which has further stumped their tech folks.

I asked him if wiping the harddrive and reinstalling the PS3 version would help, as seen on the PS forums, he said I could try but that he hadn't heard of it helping a single person.

He ended the call by saying that they really have no idea when a fix will be coming because they can't figure out what is exactly causing the problem and then once more apologized.

"I feel terrible about this."

If only more support folks were as empathetic and genuinely concerned about the problems their customers are going through.

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Comment by: viny1313 (Apr 30, 2008 12:05)

I just bought it yesterday for my 60GB PS3... It didn't freeze up during the intro or whatever but after a couple missions it froze when I crashed into a corner and crashed my PS3 :P

I hope that was a coincedence or w/e...

Good game though :)

Comment by: polegirl (Apr 30, 2008 13:26)

PES2008 did a simaliar thing on PS3 - you know what i think, the ps3 has so many firmware versions/updates, and sony keep messing around with it... its too complicated - thats what i lke about PS2, nice an simple!!! I read somewhere that sony are sending updates over the internet for 60gb consoles - to stop them reading PS2 games!!! a bit like Sky snooping on you and updating their software, reading your card - turning it off if you are behind without you knowing.... So the morale of this tale DONT CONNECT YOUR PS3 TO THE INTERNET! its not the game its bloody sony - ensuring you HAVE to buy PS3 games.... I am sticking with my trusty 'old tech' PS2 for now thanks very much!!! either that or the lasers cant cope with the amount of data it has to stream... my moneys on that option - i fix pS2's all the time to sell on, I know about Sony lasers!!!

Comment by: nobrainer (Apr 30, 2008 15:14)

Originally posted by polegirl:

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PES2008 did a simaliar thing on PS3 - you know what i think, the ps3 has so many firmware versions/updates, and sony keep messing around with it... its too complicated - thats what i lke about PS2, nice an simple!!! I read somewhere that sony are sending updates over the internet for 60gb consoles - to stop them reading PS2 games!!! a bit like Sky snooping on you and updating their software, reading your card - turning it off if you are behind without you knowing.... So the morale of this tale DONT CONNECT YOUR PS3 TO THE INTERNET! its not the game its bloody sony - ensuring you HAVE to buy PS3 games.... I am sticking with my trusty 'old tech' PS2 for now thanks very much!!! either that or the lasers cant cope with the amount of data it has to stream... my moneys on that option - i fix pS2's all the time to sell on, I know about Sony lasers!!!

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i doubt if this is true, they may be screwing up incompatibility with the euro ps3 that only had software emulation from the outset, and now the scaled down 40gig ps3 because of incompetence. There have been issues regarding B/C and programming for the PS3 from the outset not that sony have ever accepted this as the reason that games keep screwing up.

But this is why all the sony bloggers infested every forum on the net stating things like;
"why buy a ps3 to play ps2 games", even though AAA+ titles were still being released on the ps2 while the ps3 launch line up sucked, and
"ppl only slate the ps3 because they cant afford one" or the best
"why play games from the stone age when you have a ps3".

the public relations spin for the ps3 has been pathetic, and only believable by fools or kids, but what do you expect from a company that continually lies, is anti-consumer & anti-competitive.


There is an update on GTA4 over at gamepro and its not good news again for the ps3, i thought that the cell was easy to programme for?

PlayStation 3 version only: Resolution, online issues hamper GTA IV experience

Originally posted by gamepro link:

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Maybe there IS a difference after all: Reports confirm online issues and less-than-HD 640p resolution for the PS3 version of Grand Theft Auto IV.
PS3 GTA IV

Can't really make out this image. Is it only 640p?

When it isn't locking up your system with inexcusable game-ending glitches, Grand Theft Auto IV, for all intents and purposes, has delivered as advertised.

That is, if you're playing the Xbox 360 version.

Confirmed reports today have laid two additional issues at the feet of the PS3 version of GTA IV. These issues include inaccessible online play and a less-than-true-HD 640p resolution.

Sony is aware of the online problems, read a post over at Kotaku, but Rockstar so far has not responded to their inquiries. The GTA IV servers are hosted by Gamespy.

As for the resolution issue, several outlets have confirmed the PS3 version runs at 640p, compared to the Xbox 360's HD 720p. Before you go stringing up Sony and Rockstar for the gaff, however, remember that Halo 3 experienced the same un-HD treatment when it launched in 2007.

It should also be noted that neither version runs at 1080p, the resolution most touted by both Microsoft and Sony in the run up to the "next generation console war." Maybe GTA IV could come out for Wii after all?

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Comment by: polegirl (Apr 30, 2008 17:06)

Fair comments - the thing that still bugs me though is why would anyone give a rats arse if when playing a GAME!! stress game.. they can see every blade of grass while driving or whatever at 120mph?? does it really matter that much?? the end result is still the same... OK the PS3 can play larger files, and a few other tricks - but its still just a GAMES console!!! Th eonly way i would get a PS3 is when they start going wrong in large enough numbers to bring the second hand 'faulty' price down, i have a mint PS2 in the box all wires etc - cost me a tenner!!! works a treat!!! whats wrong with that???

Comment by: goodswipe (Apr 30, 2008 17:58)

Originally posted by nobrainer:

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*Warning*

read before you purchase. maybe its worth waiting for the first patch (on a console lol) to purchase this title!

http://kotaku.com/385183/rockstar-suppor...ze-fix-in-sight

Originally posted by link:

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Earlier today we broke the news that some Grand Theft Auto IV gamers were having problems with the game on both the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360.

For them, the game was freezing up during the introductory cut-scene, something that neither I nor Mike experienced during our time with the game on both systems. To be clear, we have no idea how widespread the problem is, but it's certainly on Rockstar's radar and making the rounds both in our tips line and on forums.

Rockstar declined to comment on the issue officially, so I went to the phone and called up Rockstar Support to see what they had to say about the problem.

A very friendly, and obviously unhappy, fellow answered the phone who, after thanking me for not yelling at him and apologizing profusely for the problem, spilled quite a bit of beans on the issue:

The man told me that the problem is apparently only effecting the 60 GB version of the Playstation 3, but that it didn't matter than my particular console was a launch console (Yes, I told a little white lie and said my copy was locking up.) He said the problem is not across the board for the 60GB PS3s but rather only impacts some, so their tech folks are working around the clock to try and figure out what is causing the issue.

He did ask me to make sure that my harddrive wasn't full and that I had the latest firmware update, but confessed that that really isn't what's causing most of the problem. He also said that the Xbox 360 is having the "exact same problem," which has further stumped their tech folks.

I asked him if wiping the harddrive and reinstalling the PS3 version would help, as seen on the PS forums, he said I could try but that he hadn't heard of it helping a single person.

He ended the call by saying that they really have no idea when a fix will be coming because they can't figure out what is exactly causing the problem and then once more apologized.

"I feel terrible about this."

If only more support folks were as empathetic and genuinely concerned about the problems their customers are going through.

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WOW...

So with all the money those guys have over at RS/Take-Two Interactive, why didn't they have a team of people testing this out before it was released. Surely they would have experienced the same problems.

Maybe someone said the tests passed when they actually never ran the test? Or maybe it's another one of those issues where they are pressured into releasing the software before it's complete.

Like I've said before, they don't care if it's broke...ship it anyways. We will come out with a patch at a later time.

"look honey, it said goodswipe! oh wow, that's amazing."

Comment by: nobrainer (Apr 30, 2008 18:01)

Originally posted by polegirl:

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Fair comments - the thing that still bugs me though is why would anyone give a rats arse if when playing a GAME!! stress game.. they can see every blade of grass while driving or whatever at 120mph?? does it really matter that much?? the end result is still the same..

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only if the game play equals the visuals, which is what PC gamers have enjoyed for a very long time but Hi-Res & HD are the new buzz words for sales, like it's something new.

Anyways check out my last post as it appears rockstar/sony have screwed up with GTA4 on the PS3

@ goodswipe

it certainly sucks, if the delay wasn't bad enough seems that the 360 ver of gta4 was finished last November but delayed to get the ps3 copy to the shelves for the same day.

but the update via gamepro appears to only single out the ps3 ver of the game and that sony are aware of the issues, and that the visuals on the ps3 or only 640 compared to the 360's, 720p resolution.

but the sad fact is ppl will always follow the marketing/PR spin and pre order or get games/software/films/music on the day of release which is just plain stupid imho.

always borrow, rent, read an unbias review, ect before you part with your cash ppl, and NEVER ever purchase any OS until its fully tested by the populous, don't be a "keeping up with the Joneses" because of sales splatter, use your brains.

Comment by: NexGen76 (Apr 30, 2008 19:47)

I don't know why people^^^^ want to troll but this is a RockStar issue not Sony.Sony didn't make the game only the console but like a few they alway want to blame Sony even when they didn't make the game.


GTA IV Overloading Console’s Cache - Causing Freezes


XBF Writes: "...GTA IV now overloads the cache and causes a lock-up (freeze). So now, instead of saving load times and providing a seamless experience, Rockstar has forced some machines to crash while attempting to load from the cache.

The solution: Rockstar needs to release a patch that limits the strain on the RAM right out of the gate. Can they even do this? Who knows? ..."

The problem, originally reported to only effect the 60gb PS3, now is showing up on Xbox 360s as well.

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-140634.aspx

http://xboxfamily.net/story-589-GTA-IV-O...ng-Freezez.html

Comment by: TSRSteve (Apr 30, 2008 21:35)

Originally posted by nobrainer:

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but the sad fact is ppl will always follow the marketing/PR spin and pre order or get games/software/films/music on the day of release which is just plain stupid imho.

always borrow, rent, read an unbias review, ect before you part with your cash ppl, and NEVER ever purchase any OS until its fully tested by the populous, don't be a "keeping up with the Joneses" because of sales splatter, use your brains.

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Amen to that, you won't catch my ass buying anything on launch day ever again. 60 bucks is too much money to throw away, especially since you can get about 3-4 months of a game rental service for the price of one game.

Comment by: viny1313 (May 01, 2008 01:38)

Originally posted by NexGen76:

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I don't know why people^^^^ want to troll but this is a RockStar issue not Sony.Sony didn't make the game only the console but like a few they alway want to blame Sony even when they didn't make the game.


GTA IV Overloading Console’s Cache - Causing Freezes


XBF Writes: "...GTA IV now overloads the cache and causes a lock-up (freeze). So now, instead of saving load times and providing a seamless experience, Rockstar has forced some machines to crash while attempting to load from the cache.

The solution: Rockstar needs to release a patch that limits the strain on the RAM right out of the gate. Can they even do this? Who knows? ..."

The problem, originally reported to only effect the 60gb PS3, now is showing up on Xbox 360s as well.

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-140634.aspx

http://xboxfamily.net/story-589-GTA-IV-O...ez.html

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It made my 60GB crash once, almost twice, but oh well. Great game :)



To the guy above, $60 is well worth it! Everybody gave it a 10 out of 10... Very surprised when I saw that. I can play this game 24/7. I should have gotten the special edition :P

Comment by: wolf503 (May 01, 2008 10:59)

if this game was on PS2 they would have to remove soooo amny features from it. i paid all up 1000k pretty much just so i can play this game and trust me it was worth it. when i 1st got it i played it for 10hrs, give me 72hrs and i might complete main storyline and a few other things.

Comment by: polegirl (May 01, 2008 11:18)

Oh well you are a very (rich) lucky man, then arnt you its a GAME thats all so what if they remove a few features, remember SAN ANDREAS, thsts got plenty to do in it!!! R* could release it on say 2 discs?? OK not the same graphics quality - but who cares??? Games are for playing to while away a few hours - if you want close to 'reality' look out the window!

Comment by: wolf503 (May 01, 2008 11:47)

1 im not rich at all, it wasnt like i pulled the money out my ass and im surprised i didnt mug a local dealer for the money (would have been fun tho). 2 yes i luved GTA SA (completed it in 3 days not even), but lets b honest here, 2 discs would b annoying as hell, having to swap if u got to a new map or use a diff feat. 3 there r a lot of feats in GTA SA, but, GTA 4 has WAY too many, play it and u will find out, i could name em but i havnt finished the game yet and like i said there r too many for me to xplain in wirting. unfortuanely they removed sum feats like buying proprty, BUT, they really make up for it with everything they've got in it. rockstar went all out for this, they really did. but relax. there is always the PC version plus GTA SA Stories to come and that will b on PSP, PS3 and PS2. i sold my PS2 for $200 with 2 controls, 100 games, it was chipped aswell and i usaed that towards the PS3. ironic; i cbf xplaing feats but i wrote all this :(

Comment by: wolf503 (May 01, 2008 11:52)

also u mentioned close to reality, well i cant afford a 9mm yet that i can silence. also GTA 4 is a good way to idealistically kill ppl and commit crimes with out costing u reall money to bribe cops in reality they rnt cheap nowadays tho i am happy the cops in AUS complained about low pay, thats a real bonus to me, and im not jking. u can say i play GTA too much and get the wrong ideas and that it really does influence ppl. but i say its only aiaded my original and right ideas.


P.S. the physics in this is way too good lol rockstar really r gods of the gaming industry, i cant belived it

Comment by: goodswipe (May 01, 2008 14:28)

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also u mentioned close to reality, well i cant afford a 9mm yet that i can silence. also GTA 4 is a good way to idealistically kill ppl and commit crimes with out costing u reall money

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Oh no, here we go again. Another guy that has to get all crazy after playing this video game, just to ruin it for everybody.

I wonder how many frivolous lawsuits we will see this year?


THIS JUST IN...

A boy in the state of Texas, goes gun crazy after playing the highly anticipated GTAIV. The boys parents said that they never saw any signs of problem, until their 14 year old son started playing the video game.

The story at 10....

'GTA IV' could keep 'Iron Man' audience at home

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/04/30/grand...=rss_topstories

"look honey, it said goodswipe! oh wow, that's amazing."

Comment by: polegirl (May 01, 2008 15:16)

Originally posted by goodswipe:

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Quote:

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also u mentioned close to reality, well i cant afford a 9mm yet that i can silence. also GTA 4 is a good way to idealistically kill ppl and commit crimes with out costing u reall money

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THIS JUST IN...


The story at 10....

'GTA IV' could keep 'Iron Man' audience at home

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/04/30/grand...stories

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Thats OK I cant afford the cinema either - so i must be really missing out, no GTA 4 or Iron Man - god how will I survive?? (sic) The shame of it all ;-<
Anyway kids going mad with guns over a game - piffle! My 11 yr old Nephew plays GTA SA and he just puts the cheats in and flies cars around!!! Not seen him going mad with a shotgun, i reckon its all an excuse for crap parenting!! Most kids (99.99%) just play to beat their mates, soemthing to do, i play coz it fills a few dead hours, personally i prefer Lara croft and a good ol bit of Tomb Raiding!! Mind, it IS fun to get about 6 stars and build up piles of expolding cars heh, heh....

Comment by: polegirl (May 01, 2008 15:24)

Originally posted by wolf503:

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but relax. there is always the PC version plus GTA SA Stories to come and that will b on PSP, PS3 and PS2. i sold my PS2 for $200 with 2 controls, 100 games, it was chipped aswell and i usaed that towards the PS3. ironic; i cbf xplaing feats but i wrote all this :(

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Well, well SA Stories???? where did you hear that one??? and i bet you will need a MEGA Fast PC Loads of memory, Hi Res Graphics Card etc to play it on.... pppppfffftt Thats me out then 1.2Gg 256Mb Nvida Graphics... ppppfttt can barely surf the net with PC - mind it was free!!! And i bet you will be buying a another PS2 soon to play all those oldies but goldies ;) coz you cant play em on the 3!!! god chipped, 100 games, for only £100 - cheap as chips... i paid $20 for my PS2!!! had to fix it first - will do me for now!!

Comment by: goodswipe (May 01, 2008 15:27)

Exactly my point! You don't recall all the hundreds of news articles about parents or someone trying to sue the makers of this video game?

Just because their kids are dumb or the parents do a piss poor job at raising their kids, doesn't mean that the game companies should be responsible.

"look honey, it said goodswipe! oh wow, that's amazing."

Comment by: viny1313 (May 02, 2008 00:08)

Originally posted by polegirl:

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Originally posted by wolf503:

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but relax. there is always the PC version plus GTA SA Stories to come and that will b on PSP, PS3 and PS2. i sold my PS2 for $200 with 2 controls, 100 games, it was chipped aswell and i usaed that towards the PS3. ironic; i cbf xplaing feats but i wrote all this :(

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Well, well SA Stories???? where did you hear that one??? and i bet you will need a MEGA Fast PC Loads of memory, Hi Res Graphics Card etc to play it on.... pppppfffftt Thats me out then 1.2Gg 256Mb Nvida Graphics... ppppfttt can barely surf the net with PC - mind it was free!!! And i bet you will be buying a another PS2 soon to play all those oldies but goldies ;) coz you cant play em on the 3!!! god chipped, 100 games, for only £100 - cheap as chips... i paid $20 for my PS2!!! had to fix it first - will do me for now!!

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Rock Star said tha there will be no GTA:SAS a long time ago... Very disappointing :(

Perhaps they will change their mind someday...

Comment by: wolf503 (May 02, 2008 05:57)

ah damn ur right i looked in to that, i was looking forward to GTA SAS but also whover mentioned i cant remember, im not crazy and stupid enough to go crazy over this game and go on a rampage, 1 im not american 2 i have priciples and morals so killing innocent ppl at my skool and blaming it on GTA is way out of the picture, 3 i like to use numbers a lot, 4 its never ever the video game that infleunces ppl to kill. i got 3 neaces the eldest is 8yrs old and she loves playing GTA SA and she knows the difference between idealism and reality, why?? becoz she has good parents same as the other 2.

Comment by: wetsparks (May 02, 2008 20:55)

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Originally posted by polegirl:

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the public relations spin for the 360 has been pathetic, and only believable by fools or kids, but what do you expect from a company that continually lies, is anti-consumer & anti-competitive.

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sorry couldn't help myself.