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Comment by: trexxus (Jul 01, 2008 19:00)

It's good that Sony is catching up with MS but hopefully the "it's free"thing will kick in with people enough to make it a must have.

Comment by: DoomLight (Jul 01, 2008 19:09)

PSN will never be close to LIVE

Sony doesn't have the money like MSoft to make a good network. despide the weak sauce on live lately. sony will lag behind msoft always.

im not a fanboy by the way. its just fact.

Comment by: DVDBack23 (Jul 01, 2008 19:39)

Originally posted by DoomLight:

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PSN will never be close to LIVE

Sony doesn't have the money like MSoft to make a good network. despide the weak sauce on live lately. sony will lag behind msoft always.

im not a fanboy by the way. its just fact.

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Doesn't have the money? Sony had $88 billion USD in revenue last year haha although admittedly MS has higher operating profit.

Comment by: atlnicca (Jul 01, 2008 19:48)

Originally posted by DoomLight:

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PSN will never be close to LIVE

Sony doesn't have the money like MSoft to make a good network. despide the weak sauce on live lately. sony will lag behind msoft always.

im not a fanboy by the way. its just fact.

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That's not fact. I'm not a Sony fanboy, but I know the difference between what's fact and what's not fact. Yes, the PSN can't exactly go toe to toe with Live, but to say PSN will always lag behind is a bit stupid to say the least. Unless you have some magical crystal ball that accurately predicts the future, then your predictions are just that, and not facts.

Now whether PSN will be able to catch up with Live remains to be seen. I do believe they can, especially if they keep adding functionality like they have.

But what I'm really waiting for (and I'll probably be waiting until the day I die) is for PSN and Live to connect together so I can play against my 360 friends. Yes, I know I'm a dreamer. q(-__-)p

Comment by: blueroad (Jul 01, 2008 19:53)

big wow..you'd think that they would at least improve their flash playing capabilities..but instead we get to say to people hey i got a trophy im better then you hahaha..guess the jokes on us..at least give me reason to buy that console other than graphics and (for now) good for nothing blu ray player..

Comment by: NexGen76 (Jul 01, 2008 20:05)

To be honest PS3 gamers should care less what Microsoft has.This is a great update & the most wanted out of any updates that has been ever requested by miles....Lets not forget Microsoft trying to play catchup to Sony in the console business period.

Comment by: emugamer (Jul 01, 2008 20:45)

This is a great update. In game music customization is included, which has been a personal want of mine for a long time. It will be game specific, and which games will have it are being worked out, but it's a start. Lots of cool stuff in this update. More details in an article on ECT news.

Comment by: SDF_GR (Jul 01, 2008 21:38)

Originally posted by DoomLight:

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PSN will never be close to LIVE

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I could easily say the oposite or anything, can you prove it?
What live has that PSN dont? I dont have a 360 and i would like you to tell me what have you seen in MS Live that you didn't in PSN.
I may buy a 360 and pay 50euroa if Live is so great.

Originally posted by DoomLight:

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Sony doesn't have the money like MSoft to make a good network. despide the weak sauce on live lately. sony will lag behind msoft always.

im not a fanboy by the way. its just fact.

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Company's like Sony, Mitsubishi, Yamaha, Toshiba etc that manufactures thousands staff is at least silly to say that they don't have money.
Just for saying that proves that you are a fan boy.
Sony also has movie/music/game studios a lot of mills there too.
Toshiba lost 500+ millions $$$ for the media war and they didnt even care.
By the way Sonys game division has more profits that the MS games division, even with a free dedicated network.

Comment by: DoomLight (Jul 01, 2008 22:39)

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Originally posted by DoomLight:

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PSN will never be close to LIVE

Sony doesn't have the money like MSoft to make a good network. despide the weak sauce on live lately. sony will lag behind msoft always.

im not a fanboy by the way. its just fact.

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Doesn't have the money? Sony had $88 billion USD in revenue last year haha although admittedly MS has higher operating profit.

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i do recall not even a week ago sony hasn't made profit, but lost a crap load of money in the sony gaming division. i stand by what i typed. sony isn't gonna eclipse LIVE. i hardly play my systems anyways. Sony is losing money and is getting desperate. as if adding a few puny copies of achievements is gonna save that crappy PSN. if they did more ground work before releasing their PS3 we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Comment by: DVDBack23 (Jul 01, 2008 23:30)

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i do recall not even a week ago sony hasn't made profit, but lost a crap load of money in the sony gaming division. i stand by what i typed. sony isn't gonna eclipse LIVE. i hardly play my systems anyways. Sony is losing money and is getting desperate. as if adding a few puny copies of achievements is gonna save that crappy PSN. if they did more ground work before releasing their PS3 we wouldn't be having this discussion.

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Ok now, you have proven yourself to be a fanboy, it was on the edge before, could have went either way. Microsoft has had 1 profitable quarter for its entertainment division since the 2005 release of the 360, and the profit they made was last quarter, a measly 37 million driven by Zune sales if im not mistaken. Sure Sony is still losing money for the Playstation division but MS is the same exact thing.

Comment by: PantherM (Jul 01, 2008 23:41)

Good update for the PS3. Sony is getting there.

Any yes...this DoomLight person is shown himself to be a fanboy.

Comment by: ddp (Jul 01, 2008 23:42)

DoomLight, watch it!!!

Comment by: rvinkebob (Jul 02, 2008 02:20)

Ahhhh, I've been waiting for this since May!! A nice overhaul on the main features of the system is just what it needed. I could care less for fanboys like DoomLight who are completely oblivious of actual facts. Microsoft has now had about what, 5-6 years to work on their live service, right? PSN just started a little past 1.5 years ago, is free, and is slowly, but surely catching up.

Anyway, here's to waiting a few more hours!

Comment by: Hunt720 (Jul 02, 2008 03:43)

Originally posted by blueroad:

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big wow..you'd think that they would at least improve their flash playing capabilities..but instead we get to say to people hey i got a trophy im better then you hahaha..guess the jokes on us..at least give me reason to buy that console other than graphics and (for now) good for nothing blu ray player..

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Hey Blueraod,

You make a really good point in the browser issues on the PS3. I find them to be annoying, but overall I can still use the browser. I am wondering however, what you mean by "good for nothing" when you refer to the blu-ray player? I can't seem to find another source of HD content for movies that is as widely available as Blu-Ray right now. Sure I could download a film for a couple days off a P2P network, but I get really good deals on Blu-ray discs online. I usually pay DVD prices for my discs and I enjoy their content. I'm just wondering where you are getting all of your HD films/shows/vids etc. Because by the sound of it, you seem to have a better way.

Comment by: 7thsinger (Jul 02, 2008 04:18)

Looks like a nice little add-on of an update.

Comment by: Propagand (Jul 02, 2008 05:00)

do you guys feel played or just me?

Comment by: Rudeboi (Jul 02, 2008 18:09)

Originally posted by Propagand:

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do you guys feel played or just me?

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haha. I feel that there was WAY too much hype around it.

When I installed it, 10 minutes after playing around with In-Game XMB. I got bored.

Comment by: Rudeboi (Jul 02, 2008 18:13)

Originally posted by DoomLight:

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PSN will never be close to LIVE

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Here's a challenge for you.
Name the DIFFERENCES between PSN and LIVE.
And you better make sure it's $50/year difference.

All you 360 AND PS3 fanboy's just get me on my last nerve.
You go online, to play online, to race/shoot other people online.
ITS THE SAME DAMN THING, DON'T MATTER IF IT'S PSN OR LIVE OR EVEN ONLINE PC GAMING!

Comment by: Oner (Jul 02, 2008 19:02)

This thread is about FW 2.4 not about a comparison to other companies services. Please take that to the appropriate forum area for discussion. Thanx.

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Comment by: psplvanub (Jul 02, 2008 19:52)

It hasnt got the bloody in game music!
the main reason i wanted it!
if you know any games that have got in game music enabled plz post them here.
grrrrrr!

Comment by: DVDBack23 (Jul 02, 2008 20:58)

Update 2.40 bricking consoles

Comment by: Oner (Jul 02, 2008 21:39)

Originally posted by psplvanub:

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It hasnt got the bloody in game music!
the main reason i wanted it!
if you know any games that have got in game music enabled plz post them here.
grrrrrr!

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All info that has been released states in game music is up to the devs to add into their games or make a patch for already completed titles. This *supposedly* has to do with a patent that MS may have.

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Comment by: psplvanub (Jul 03, 2008 08:04)

i was looking forwrd to owning people with Kanye West playing...

Comment by: psplvanub (Jul 03, 2008 08:06)

once and if the ps3 is hacked, this annoyance will be solved.

Comment by: dsgtrain (Jul 03, 2008 09:06)

I'm just ready and waiting for MKV support. It all ready has the needed codecs, just needs to support the container.