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Comment by: NexGen76 (Jul 04, 2008 19:16)

Originally posted by kishan73:

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I play my 360 EVERY DAY and my PS3 about once a week. Although there are plenty of games out for the PS2, there aren't many out for the PS3.

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Oh really lets see Uncharted,UT,Haze,R&CF,MS,MGS4(best game on any system now),WH,GT5,HS,& Resistance: Fall of Man all of these are exclusive games now lets see what exclusive 360 has


Gears of War,Bio-Shock(until Nov)Halo3,Mass Effect everything else is muticonsole or mediocre at best if you would have said this at this time last year i would agree with you 100% but since last holidays Sony has been putting out better games than 360 look at the console sells numbers world wide were Sony has sold more.360 has been living on Muticonsole games since last Nov after Mass effect which isn't a shock they did this the whole life cycle of the XBOX.

Originally posted by kishan73:

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MGS4 is really only 5 hours long if you cut through the movie scenes. That's ridiculous, especially after all the hype about blu-ray media having so much storage capacity for better looking, playing, and longer games.

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Thats totally not true you heard that from a guy who actually played the game first which took him 14hours the first time & he was trying to get the Bandanna if you can finish it under 5 hours.Who in there right mine play a game without watching CG that mean you didn't even know what the game was about.The game without CG is about 8hrs this was proved on Gamepro but was played on the easy level.To be honest you can't own a PS3 i very seriously doubt it.

Comment by: SDF_GR (Jul 04, 2008 19:48)

Originally posted by kishan73:

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I play my 360 EVERY DAY

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and how many pairs of battery's you need every week?

Originally posted by kishan73:

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Although there are plenty of games out for the PS2

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The fact that PS2 is 8years old and PS3 is 1-2(depends on the region)havent crossed your mind???
That PS3 is younger than 360 and has better and more exclusive games havent crossed your mind either.

Originally posted by kishan73:

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MGS4 is really only 5 hours long if you cut through the movie scenes.

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Not even in your MS fonboyzy dreams , you are a lier and i bet that you dont even know how MGS4 looks like.

Originally posted by NexGen76:

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To be honest you can't own a PS3 i very seriously doubt it.

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Me too

Comment by: Unknown4 (Jul 04, 2008 21:44)

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I play my 360 EVERY DAY and my PS3 about once a week. Although there are plenty of games out for the PS2, there aren't many out for the PS3.

Oh really lets see Uncharted,UT,Haze,R&CF,MS,MGS4(best game on any system now),WH,GT5,HS,& Resistance: Fall of Man all of these are exclusive games now lets see what exclusive 360 has


Gears of War,Bio-Shock(until Nov)Halo3,Mass Effect everything else is muticonsole or mediocre at best if you would have said this at this time last year i would agree with you 100% but since last holidays Sony has been putting out better games than 360 look at the console sells numbers world wide were Sony has sold more.360 has been living on Muticonsole games since last Nov after Mass effect which isn't a shock they did this the whole life cycle of the XBOX.

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That's bull, ive had my 360 since July of 2006, (when i got it for my b-day) and nothing has ever happened to it, no rrod no eject disc error, nothing. The Life cycle of the 360 has been perfect for me thankfully, and even if it got the rrod or something, I could just send it to Microsoft for repair for free, easy as that. and also the 360 has way more exclusives than that, UT is for the 360 too, Gears of War, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Dead or Alive, Fable, Ninja Gaiden 2, Ridge Racer, Saints Row, Tenchu Z, Too Human, Dead Rising.. and more, those are the ones I think are cool. Not to mention future games, and sequels that will OWN, such as Gears of War 2.. I can't wait for this game to come out.

And let us not forget the Live Arcade, Street fighter 2, Sonic, Mortal Kombat, Soul Calibur, Doom, Geometry Wars, Pacman, and waaay more. The fact of the matter is, 360 owns the ps3. Sure, xbox live is 8 dollars a month, but totally worth it. And yes, multiplatform games help the 360 alot, like call of duty 4 and gta4, but those are must have games, everybody has those seeing they are amazingly awesome.

Comment by: SDF_GR (Jul 04, 2008 23:33)

Originally posted by Unknown4:

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That's bull, ive had my 360 since July of 2006, (when i got it for my b-day) and nothing has ever happened to it, no rrod no eject disc error, nothing. The Life cycle of the 360 has been perfect for me thankfully, and even if it got the rrod or something, I could just send it to Microsoft for repair for free, easy as that.

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With a fail rate 30+% you say easy as that, PS3 has less than 5% and it isnt easy as that. That is blind at will.

Originally posted by Unknown4:

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and also the 360 has way more exclusives than that, UT is for the 360 too, Gears of War, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Dead or Alive, Fable, Ninja Gaiden 2, Ridge Racer, Saints Row, Tenchu Z, Too Human, Dead Rising.. and more, those are the ones I think are cool. Not to mention future games, and sequels that will OWN, such as Gears of War 2.. I can't wait for this game to come out.

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Most of the games you said are fps, (teenages games)
to call Fable a game you insult games .
Ninja gaiden 2 wtf? the remake of the remake of the remake and Sigma is out for ps3 and sucks.
Ridge Racer isnt an 360 exclusive.
For the rest that you mentioned, i havent even heard of them so i dont even care at all.

Originally posted by Unknown4:

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And let us not forget the Live Arcade, Street fighter 2, Sonic, Mortal Kombat, Soul Calibur, Doom, Geometry Wars, Pacman, and waaay more.

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oooo Now i get it, you are from the 80's. Great news for you, we are in year 2008!

Originally posted by Unknown4:

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The fact of the matter is, 360 owns the ps3. Sure, xbox live is 8 dollars a month, but totally worth it.

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and doesnt have an HDD, and needs batteries to the controllers, and sounds like an f-16 and it doesnt have a BD and it doesnt upscales dvd's, and looks like shit, and it doesnt have a browser, and you cant install larger HDD than 160gb cause you will be banned from Live and it doesnt have a motion sensor and and and and ..... but yes it is better than ps3 cause you cant buy a ps3 and that makes 360 better.

Originally posted by Unknown4:

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And yes, multiplatform games help the 360 alot,

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and Yes Ruins PS3 game experience a lot!
cause games released for 360 too if were PS3 exclusives would be 4 or more times better in any aspect.

Originally posted by Unknown4:

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like call of duty 4 and gta4, but those are must have games, everybody has those seeing they are amazingly awesome.

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for you, cause i know a lot of people that dont, and GTA4 was a disappointing, people were expecting a lot more from this game.

Comment by: L-Burna (Jul 05, 2008 00:46)

Microsoft wouldn't be anything without the Japanese.Bill Gates stole the plans for Windows from the Japanese,and got filthy rich off it as well.The Japanese are smarter than they look,and they are more prone to buying quality products.What makes you think the Japanese are gonna fall in love with Bill Gates products also since he stole most of the stuff from them.If you look at Sony and Nintendo they have two to three times the amount of games over in Japan.Microsoft doesn't have anything that resembles quality,and from the customer support they represent I can see why they hate them.Having a 30% fail rate is not good,and I don't think it has anything to do with the game selection.Japanese customers will buy quality first and they have always been that way.

Comment by: lxhotboy (Jul 05, 2008 03:52)

Well i think the asians dont support the xbox360 more b.c they just dont like the american products. They dont buy our cars either but i cant argue with that one b.c i dont either. Give me a toyota or honda anyday. I got burned too many time by GM in the last 12 years on low quality parts and manufacturing defects. The RROD issue is a complete embarrasement to Microsoft b/c there is no way it should have ever happened.

Comment by: lxhotboy (Jul 05, 2008 04:09)

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Originally posted by kishan73:
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I play my 360 EVERY DAY
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and how many pairs of battery's you need every week?

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Not sure what was meant by this comment but for the record, if this was referring to battery life xbox360 has the best of all three next gen consoles. I have read three articles online and in video magazines on this. Oh and please lets not include HAZE in those great PS3 must play titles. Check the ratings and the gamers reviews. Most people really trash talked this game badly. It should not even be mentioned with great games like Uncharted and MGS4.

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[Ninja gaiden 2 wtf? the remake of the remake of the remake and Sigma is out for ps3 and sucks.

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Actually that is wrong. Ninga gaiden sigma for the ps3 was a remake of the xbox ninga gaiden black.

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and Yes Ruins PS3 game experience a lot!
cause games released for 360 too if were PS3 exclusives would be 4 or more times better in any aspect.

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I dont think so. The PS3 version of GTA IV was the reason the game was put on hold so long. That had the get the PS3 version up to par with the xbox360 version. Not b.c the PS3 doesnot have the horsepower under the hood but because they are still learning to program for it. When a developer makes a game they are not holding back on graphics just so they can make the game on the 360. It takes longer to make the games for the PS3 b/c it hasnot been out as long and i have heard it isnot as user friendly. That is why the XXbox360 is able to push out basicly the same graphics as the PS3 right now with a V-8 compared to Sony's V-12.

Comment by: ck44 (Jul 05, 2008 08:22)

wow, sdf_gr.. i can see ur a sony fanboy..bashing the 360 like that.. Well, I for one own all three next gen consoles and between the 360 and the ps3, i play my 360 more. Don't get me wrong, i love my ps3, I still haven't passed metal gear solid 4, (this game rocks). But I just play my 360 more seeing the majority of my friends have it. We play call of duty4 and halo 3 all the time.. never get bored of them. I just wish Live was free but hey, at least the service is awesome.. and I don't know about you but The arcade games that Unknown guy mentioned are really fun, I myself own Stf2, Mk3, and TMNT, theyre old games but fun, especially with them being playable online.

Gta4 was not a failure, that game is awesome! the graphics are cool, single player is long and amazing, and online is also fun. Not everybody has the same taste for games, but just check the stats.. it got a perfect 10 from the critics.. as well as call of duty and halo 3, they got 9.5 at ign.com and gamespot.com Not to mention CallofDuty being #1 in top xbox live games. Followed by #2 Halo3, and #3 GTA4.

I've also had my 360 for quite some time, and nothing has ever happend to it.. and 30% rate failure or not, Microsoft is trying their hardest to fix their stupid errors and are fixing the 360's for free.

I mainly use my ps3 for bluray movies and right now for metal gear solid 4..but if i want to play fun online videogames with friends, then my 360 wins.

Comment by: SDF_GR (Jul 05, 2008 11:22)

Originally posted by ck44:

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wow, sdf_gr.. i can see ur a sony fanboy..bashing the 360 like that..

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I am not bashing 360 i just said the things how are , many times i have made post supporting 360 and M$.
people like Unknown4 & kishan73 they register to a forum just to post BS and miss inform people.

But for them an MS Hardware issue is not a prob but a sony software issue for example is the end of the world, that is what bothers me, Blind at will and that is fanboyzm.

Comment by: NexGen76 (Jul 05, 2008 14:36)

Originally posted by SDF_GR:

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But for them an MS Hardware issue is not a prob but a sony software issue for example is the end of the world, that is what bothers me, Blind at will and that is fanboyzm.

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That the problem i have right there if Sony had a 30% failure rate they would get ripped to no end but its Microsoft there little to say about it.

Originally posted by ck44:

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Microsoft is trying their hardest to fix their stupid errors and are fixing the 360's for free.

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I don't call giving a extended warranty fixing the problem more like putting a band aid over it or not owning up to the issue until 2 years later.So what happens when your warranty runs out you have two more years left.

Comment by: Hunt720 (Jul 05, 2008 15:21)

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Originally posted by SDF_GR:

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But for them an MS Hardware issue is not a prob but a sony software issue for example is the end of the world, that is what bothers me, Blind at will and that is fanboyzm.

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That the problem i have right there if Sony had a 30% failure rate they would get ripped to no end but its Microsoft there little to say about it.

Originally posted by ck44:

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Microsoft is trying their hardest to fix their stupid errors and are fixing the 360's for free.

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I don't call giving a extended warranty fixing the problem more like putting a band aid over it or not owning up to the issue until 2 years later.So what happens when your warranty runs out you have two more years left.

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.... exactly

Comment by: SDF_GR (Jul 05, 2008 15:26)

Originally posted by lxhotboy:

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Not sure what was meant by this comment but for the record, if this was referring to battery life xbox360 has the best of all three next gen consoles. I have read three articles online and in video magazines on this.

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Does the 360 have rechargeable controllers at all?

Originally posted by lxhotboy:

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Oh and please lets not include HAZE in those great PS3 must play titles. Check the ratings and the gamers reviews. Most people really trash talked this game badly.

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Who said anything about that?

Originally posted by lxhotboy:

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Actually that is wrong. Ninga gaiden sigma for the ps3 was a remake of the xbox ninga gaiden black.

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Yeap you are right and here is the facts.
-the first Ninja Gaiden game released for the arcade in 1988
-the first of a Ninja Gaiden video game trilogy that was released on the Nintendo Entertainment System in 1988
-a video game licensed by Sega for the Game Gear in 1991
-a video game licensed by Sega for the Master System in 1992
-a video game created by Tomonobu Itagaki and released on the Xbox in 2004.
Here is a wiki link for you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_Gaiden_%28series%29
but if you are born at 1995, yes ninja gaiden black is the first ninja gaiden you have played.

Originally posted by lxhotboy:

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I dont think so. The PS3 version of GTA IV was the reason the game was put on hold so long. That had the get the PS3 version up to par with the xbox360 version. Not b.c the PS3 doesnot have the horsepower under the hood but because they are still learning to program for it. When a developer makes a game they are not holding back on graphics just so they can make the game on the 360. It takes longer to make the games for the PS3 b/c it hasnot been out as long and i have heard it isnot as user friendly. That is why the XXbox360 is able to push out basicly the same graphics as the PS3 right now with a V-8 compared to Sony's V-12.

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You are wrong, they do holding back graphics cause the 360 and a major reason is the 8,5gb DVD limitation.
it isnt enough to fit a 720 or 1080 gfx game with HiDef cut scenes and Dolby Digital or what ever sound that is.

Comment by: windsong (Jul 05, 2008 17:45)

Originally posted by Vr0cK:

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nor we dont even really bring japanese movies here to movie theatres. Instead we remake them into a more americanize version thats like worst than the original.

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The Departed (Martin) was clearly superior to the old version. :P

Comment by: windsong (Jul 05, 2008 17:51)

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That's bull, ive had my 360 since July of 2006, (when i got it for my b-day) and nothing has ever happened to it, no rrod no eject disc error, nothing. The Life cycle of the 360 has been perfect for me

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I was in BestBuy the other day and saw the xbox is going on sale. Back in the day (2 yrs ago) I opted for a dual core PC instead for just a Ben Franklin more, and Ive never had any problems I couldn't fix myself. I cant imagine anyone wanting to shell out money for that turd of a motherboard that resides in the xbox. Honestly..wait for MICROSHIT to send me a box to return a defective unit in? Um..what? And I can't hook up a 1TB drive to it bc Gates says so? Am I missing something here? And then there was Microsoft banning xbox live accounts bc of modded systems..some of which weren't modded! LulZ!!
I cannot understand why anyone would want to shell out 500 bucks for a time bomb.

No thanks..I'll stick with my Core 2/Radeon 3850 setup which will eat Diablo III alive. :)

Comment by: Hunt720 (Jul 05, 2008 20:34)

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Originally posted by lxhotboy:

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Not sure what was meant by this comment but for the record, if this was referring to battery life xbox360 has the best of all three next gen consoles. I have read three articles online and in video magazines on this.

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Does the 360 have rechargeable controllers at all?

Originally posted by lxhotboy:

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Oh and please lets not include HAZE in those great PS3 must play titles. Check the ratings and the gamers reviews. Most people really trash talked this game badly.

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Who said anything about that?

Originally posted by lxhotboy:

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Actually that is wrong. Ninga gaiden sigma for the ps3 was a remake of the xbox ninga gaiden black.

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Yeap you are right and here is the facts.
-the first Ninja Gaiden game released for the arcade in 1988
-the first of a Ninja Gaiden video game trilogy that was released on the Nintendo Entertainment System in 1988
-a video game licensed by Sega for the Game Gear in 1991
-a video game licensed by Sega for the Master System in 1992
-a video game created by Tomonobu Itagaki and released on the Xbox in 2004.
Here is a wiki link for you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_Gaiden_%28series%29
but if you are born at 1995, yes ninja gaiden black is the first ninja gaiden you have played.

Originally posted by lxhotboy:

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I dont think so. The PS3 version of GTA IV was the reason the game was put on hold so long. That had the get the PS3 version up to par with the xbox360 version. Not b.c the PS3 doesnot have the horsepower under the hood but because they are still learning to program for it. When a developer makes a game they are not holding back on graphics just so they can make the game on the 360. It takes longer to make the games for the PS3 b/c it hasnot been out as long and i have heard it isnot as user friendly. That is why the XXbox360 is able to push out basicly the same graphics as the PS3 right now with a V-8 compared to Sony's V-12.

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You are wrong, they do holding back graphics cause the 360 and a major reason is the 8,5gb DVD limitation.
it isnt enough to fit a 720 or 1080 gfx game with HiDef cut scenes and Dolby Digital or what ever sound that is.

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Well put.

However, I think someone referenced a list of PS3 exclusives and included Haze in there. It definately is not a great game. I however can say that based on playing it... as opposed to lxhotboy who is quoting what he read... way to emulate an opinion btw.

The 360 does have rechargeable batteries.. they DON'T come standard with the controler unless you buy the more expensive version. They DO recharge... but at an addition al price

Rechargeable Xbox360 batteries:
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=802126

The Dualshock 3 is estimated at 25hours as well. The difference is that its rechargeable battery is built in from purchase.

The 360 has been holding the abilities of the ps3 back on ALL multi-platform releases. Developers feel they need to make an "EQUAL" game on both systems. The problem is that the abilites of these systems are far from equal and as a result the PS3 owners are left with a game that meets the highest expectations of the less powerful system. GTA could have had TONS more built-in if it was developed exclusively for PS3.. it would have easily encompassed all the DLC that 360 owners won't see till 2009 on their proprietary HDD's.

link:
http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/06/06/xbox-...ounces-profits/

Comment by: ck44 (Jul 05, 2008 20:43)

well, as long as we enjoy playing videogames on whatever console it might be.. that's the important thing for me. Also windsong.. the 360 is not $500.. its $350..and as this afterdawn link says: http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/14632.cfm the 360 seems it will drop down another $50, making it $300.. the cheaper the better I always say. And this is about the ps3 and 360.. I don't get why people always have to mention their super computers being better and what not..stick with that if you're happy then.

Comment by: Oner (Jul 05, 2008 22:12)

What I don't understand is how threads like this one ABOUT THE PS3 CLOSING THE GAP ON THE WII always revert to an Xbox 360 vs PS3 discussion...keep it on topic please. Thank You.

Search > http://forums.afterdawn.com/search
Rules > http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
Important Rule > http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/380660

Comment by: varnull (Jul 05, 2008 22:20)

I actually agree.. Whatever sooper-dooper pc you might have it surely can't compare to vegging out on the sofa with a few beers in front of a 52" plasma playing a good game on a console in 1080.
I would rather play a good game on my ps1 on the tv and sofa than sit hunched over a keyboard staring at a 17" monitor from 12 inches slowly going blind.

It's about enjoyment.. and enjoyment and pleasure are subjective emotions.

Free open source software = made by end users who want an application to work. Get off my beach before I burn down your village!

Comment by: SDF_GR (Jul 05, 2008 23:06)

@ Hunt720
Thanks mate.

@oner
sorry but i got bored all that kids that post what they have "heard" or "read" randomly.

@ck44 you have a point there but i cant accept that a seicento is better than a buggati.

Comment by: ck44 (Jul 06, 2008 06:15)

Originally posted by varnull:

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I actually agree.. Whatever sooper-dooper pc you might have it surely can't compare to vegging out on the sofa with a few beers in front of a 52" plasma playing a good game on a console in 1080.
I would rather play a good game on my ps1 on the tv and sofa than sit hunched over a keyboard staring at a 17" monitor from 12 inches slowly going blind.

It's about enjoyment.. and enjoyment and pleasure are subjective emotions.

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amen to that! this is exactly my point.. to enjoy a videogame. People always bring up their "extremely powerful" computer that beats any videogame console.. well it might beat it in power, but never in enjoyment as varnull said.. nothing beats a 52" plasma, playing on Live with your friends is the best. But as long as you enjoy playing videogames on any machine is fine I guess. I just get tired when people show off their super computers in a videogame console discussion.

Comment by: Hunt720 (Jul 06, 2008 23:36)

Originally posted by varnull:

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I actually agree.. Whatever sooper-dooper pc you might have it surely can't compare to vegging out on the sofa with a few beers in front of a 52" plasma playing a good game on a console in 1080.
I would rather play a good game on my ps1 on the tv and sofa than sit hunched over a keyboard staring at a 17" monitor from 12 inches slowly going blind.

It's about enjoyment.. and enjoyment and pleasure are subjective emotions.

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YES!!!! I like the way you put that.

Comment by: IPRFenix (Jul 08, 2008 01:28)

Yeah.. because its impossible to hook up your computer to your 52" plasma TV.. Unfortunately, computer monitors aren't made any larger than 17" either.. it's also impossible to play computer games with a controller.. and if that's not bad enough, there's no such thing as a wireless keyboard or mouse, so you're clearly tethered to the machine. Expensive surround sound systems don't work with computers either. Also, it costs an arm and a leg to play online games on the computer. I'm also sure there aren't any free voice chat programs you can use either.. It probably can't play any kind of entertaining multimedia format, like CDs, DVDs, HD-DVDs, Blu-Ray, or any other kind of purely digital format that a console can or can't play. Clearly, the PC is incapable of doing anything a console can. Hell, don't even mention fun, you won't find that on PC either, because that titles a console exclusive.

Oh darn.. looks like the computers a dull featureless broken down no fun at all tethered to the desk kind of machine. Oh well.. what can you do?

(This obviously isn't meant to be taken seriously)

Comment by: bdoggie08 (Jul 09, 2008 18:29)

Originally posted by IPRFenix:

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Oh darn.. looks like the computers a dull featureless broken down no fun at all tethered to the desk kind of machine. Oh well.. what can you do?

(This obviously isn't meant to be taken seriously)

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sorry but this is really lame, we get ur point, all varnull said was that the console experience is a LOT better than the PC route. With a console, you don't have to buy any fancy hookups or any drivers, or update your console with the newest graphics card when a game comes out, or get the newest patch..and so forth. With a PC its a whole different experience and with that some people enjoy both worlds while some don't. So next time you want to be "sarcastic" think a little bit before you cut someone else's opinion/preference down.

Comment by: IPRFenix (Jul 09, 2008 19:38)

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think a little

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If you've read any of the comments to this article..
Well you should already know that's clearly asking to much.

Comment by: fergus100 (Jul 18, 2008 11:18)

the japanese are giving the 360 the cold shoulder ms wont be able to penetrate the market playstation and nintendo know what the japanese want in a game ms dont have a notion