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Comment by: DSWarrior (May 18, 2008 15:05)

Every PS3 is over-priced, but this one took the cake. I can think of a million ways to spend $600...

Sony still needs to start thinking about cutting prices on that ludicrous artifact they call a PS3...

And be aware that I don't give a sh*t about what other people think about what i posted here. The internet is a free place where we can actually say whatever the hell we want. So don't start with the crap!

Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 18, 2008 15:11)

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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canuckerz

No no and no software emulation on the 80GB model is 70-80%
the 60GB model had 90% emulation.
the 40GBmodel plays PSX games but not PS2 games.

Now installing data is almost mandatory on any game, thus why you need to leave 4GB of space free on the 360 for cache work, so I could care elss is a game needs to be installed or not unless I need to waste 20 miinetes isntalling it.

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My bad there but it is still both more and less than what nobrainer tried to regurgitate. And where is the third no from? I didn't touch the 40 gig model and its bwc, and I'm aware that it plays ps1 games but not ps2; but it didn't play a part in my argument. I'll change my previous statments to reflect the actual %'s.

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the PS3 is far of from prefect I'll give them points for not fcking over BWC at the start but they have screwed it over badly since then, they seem to fail to comprehend that PS2 titles can sale the PS3 as so PS3 titles can be bought.

They would rather try and resale you a game you own than make the Gdamn unit play a game you already own, this kind of dckery I will not stand for.

Sony and MS make it hard to give them a break when they screw up so much.

DSWarrior
IMO the 360,WII and PS3 are overpriced by 120$.

Comment by: canuckerz (May 18, 2008 15:15)

Originally posted by DSWarrior:

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And be aware that I don't give a sh*t about what other people think about what i posted here. The internet is a free place where we can actually say whatever the hell we want. So don't start with the crap!

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I agree, but opinions are one thing, manipulating information is another or falsifying for that matter.

Comment by: ghlili (May 18, 2008 15:25)

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Comment by: NexGen76 (May 18, 2008 15:49)

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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canuckerz

No no and no software emulation on the 80GB model is 70-80%
the 60GB model had 90% emulation.
the 40GBmodel plays PSX games but not PS2 games.

Now installing data is almost mandatory on any game, thus why you need to leave 4GB of space free on the 360 for cache work, so I could care elss is a game needs to be installed or not unless I need to waste 20 miinetes isntalling it.

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There is no emulation on the 60GB all 60GB come with the emotion engine which was in the PS2.

Comment by: narmo (May 18, 2008 16:05)

that's a complete ripoff for the 40 gig ps3 gunmetal. $600! basiclly $100 for a different color. almost anyone nowadays can get the soundtrack from a torrent or limewire. and i think not a lot of ppl would even touch the behind the scenes documentary. at least i think the black one lookes slicker. i just saw some pics of a gunmetal ps3. it looks alright. better than the shit green halo 360 .:D.(in my opinion )

LIMETED EDITION
ps3 40 gig $400
Gunmetal $100
game $ 80
sountrack and behind the scenes 20$ (10$ each)

don't forget tax! (its 15% tax where i am)
so its $690

isn't that a bit too much?

also isn't the 80gig selling for 500$ now? with no game( or is it motorstorm) no DS3 no nothing? i think that might be a good deal.


i'd rather get a regular 40 gig for 400$( when the DS3 will be a regular with the console, not 6axis) and then buy the game.( maybe return it after i'm done :D) saving myself a few hundred dollars.

that's how i would break it down.

Comment by: DXR88 (May 18, 2008 16:10)

PS3 custom cases any one, i was thinking of getting the hot-rod red.
of coarse you would have to take it apart and put it back together.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 18, 2008 16:11)

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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canuckerz

No no and no software emulation on the 80GB model is 70-80%
the 60GB model had 90% emulation.
the 40GBmodel plays PSX games but not PS2 games.

Now installing data is almost mandatory on any game, thus why you need to leave 4GB of space free on the 360 for cache work, so I could care elss is a game needs to be installed or not unless I need to waste 20 miinetes isntalling it.

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There is no emulation on the 60GB all 60GB come with the emotion engine which was in the PS2.

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menceing words uu iz u iz :P

its not quite the same theres a slight 5-10% gap on it,even the PSX BWC on the PS2 had a 3-8% gap on it.

emulation is far more wonky even if it can be improved greatly the bastards never think of after care services...they wont even call you after bum wapeing you :P

Comment by: nobrainer (May 18, 2008 16:14)

oops sry 2x post

Comment by: nobrainer (May 18, 2008 16:16)

Originally posted by NexGen76:

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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canuckerz

No no and no software emulation on the 80GB model is 70-80%
the 60GB model had 90% emulation.
the 40GBmodel plays PSX games but not PS2 games.

Now installing data is almost mandatory on any game, thus why you need to leave 4GB of space free on the 360 for cache work, so I could care elss is a game needs to be installed or not unless I need to waste 20 miinetes isntalling it.

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There is no emulation on the 60GB all 60GB come with the emotion engine which was in the PS2.

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that is incorrect, as ALL european and australian 60 gig models were made with emulation from the start. sony removed the hardware and charged us more for the privilege!

the best option here is to avoid this overpriced 40gig bundle and get yourselves a second-hand US PS3 that is almost fully backwards compatible and purchase the game separately as this bundle is a total rip off especially seems you won't be able to play any ps2 titles on the bundle model and the brand new 80 gig is $200 cheaper for a better spec model.

Comment by: NexGen76 (May 18, 2008 16:28)

I just talked to ebgames & the pricing is 499 for the MGS4 Standard Edition.Thats 80GB PS3,Dual shock 3,MGS4 game.

here is the link from there web site also.

Originally posted by Sony:

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To coincide with the much-anticipated North American launch of Metal Gear Solid®4: Guns of the Patriots in late Q2 2008, SCEA will introduce a PS3 bundle, which will includean 80GB PS3, the upcoming blockbuster Metal Gear Solid®4: Guns of the Patriots and a DUALSHOCK 3 wireless controller for $499 (MSRP)

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http://www.us.playstation.com/News/PressReleases/455

Originally posted by Nobrainer:

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that is incorrect, as ALL european and australian 60 gig models were made with emulation from the start.

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That is correct i forgot about that.But the system isn't over priced.Its clear the 80GB for 499 is the better deal.



Link from Sonystyle also.

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stor...71946&langId=-1

Comment by: canuckerz (May 18, 2008 16:41)

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I just talked to ebgames & the pricing is 499 for the MGS4 Standard Edition.Sony not doing a 40GB bundle.Thats 80GB PS3,Dual shock 3,MGS4 game.

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This is because the only way to purchase the limited edition gunmetal bundle is apparently though Konami and not Sony. They did something similar with their special mgs:po edition PSP.

Comment by: nobrainer (May 18, 2008 19:30)

game pro are running a story about this.

Metal Gear Solid 4 PS3 bundle orders begin May 19...only on Konami.com

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The $600 Limited Edition PS3 Hardware Bundle, only available on Konami.com, includes a 40GB PlayStation 3 with a gun metal gray finish, a DualShock 3 rumble-enabled controller, the limited-edition version of Metal Gear Solid 4, and a two-hour behind-the-scenes Blu-ray disc.

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a 40gig, none ps2 compatible which costs $200 more surely this ain't right.

seriously ppl don't be duped by flashy marketing get yourselves a second hand 60gig ps3 that is almost 100% backwards compatible and the game on top then purchase a mgs4 stencil or make one yourself and get to work with a screw driver masking tape and spray paint. this "special" ps3 is a complete rip off.

Comment by: LOCOENG (May 18, 2008 19:57)

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Will a mod or a staff member or anyone please put an end to all his information twisting and slander that has absolutely no grounds. Besides that this was suppose to be about information on a console bundle not a rant about every facet of the console itself. He violates the 0 tolerance for fanboy flame starting rule, constantly I might add. Also most of his posts count as thread-jacking as every time he posts something he gets the whole news discussion completely off topic. And these have all been done many many times over months, so I think there is reasonable grounds for action to be taken on the basis of the above and the length of time hes been doing it and the fact that he has been warned many times before.

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Actually rule 6 seems a bit more appropriate here.

Are we getting back to this BS now? Play nice with others or don't play...you can choose or we can choose. This is a news article not a debate on the selling tactics of various console manufacturers.

Originally posted by DSWarrior:

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And be aware that I don't give a sh*t about what other people think about what i posted here. The internet is a free place where we can actually say whatever the hell we want.

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Wrong...if it violates the site rules your opinion isn't allowed, period.

Comment by: DSWarrior (May 18, 2008 20:28)

Expensive Flashy Crap.......that's all I have to say...

Comment by: pcrazy99 (May 18, 2008 21:06)

I agree. I already have a PS3. Why would I want to shell out more cash just because it is a different color or in a different case.

Comment by: ABMone (May 18, 2008 21:14)

Does the 40 gig have wi-fi or was that stripped?

Comment by: rvinkebob (May 18, 2008 21:55)

Haha, the Halo 3 LE console looked like vomet :P

I've already got an 80GB PS3, bought a DS3, and am planning on getting the normal edition MGS4. I got my 80GB right near the time they stopped manufacturing them, to sell the 40GB alone instead.

If I waited any longer there would be none left, and I would've had to wait until now to buy the 80GB MGS4 bundle. It's a much better deal in my mind as I find use for the memory card slots and extra USB ports. I occasionally play PS2 games on it as well, so the 40GB was never a satisfying option.

EDIT: Didn't Sony say that the 80GB was gonna have full BC again?

Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 18, 2008 21:57)

Originally posted by rvinkebob:

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Haha, the Halo 3 LE console looked like vomet :P

I've already got an 80GB PS3, bought a DS3, and am planning on getting the normal edition MGS4. I got my 80GB right near the time they stopped manufacturing them, to sell the 40GB alone instead.

If I waited any longer there would be none left, and I would've had to wait until now to buy the 80GB MGS4 bundle. It's a much better deal in my mind as I find use for the memory card slots and extra USB ports. I occasionally play PS2 games on it as well, so the 40GB was never a satisfying option.

EDIT: Didn't Sony say that the 80GB was gonna have full BC again?

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they said a future revision might so far no word on it.

Comment by: TBandit (May 19, 2008 04:59)

http://www.thebitbag.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/mgs4.jpg

hahahaha anyway i thought the mgs4 ps3 would have designse on it at least but i can agree with others that the halo 3 xbox looked ugly

Comment by: rvinkebob (May 19, 2008 06:58)

Originally posted by TBandit:

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http://www.thebitbag.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/mgs4.jpg

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Lol, they even had to go as far as using the casing for 360 only titles.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 19, 2008 16:57)

the halo 360 is not so bad but they would have been better off with the metal shiny green and mimic master chiefs armor,they kinda went cheap and its a darker green than it should be.

Comment by: rvinkebob (May 20, 2008 02:37)

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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"and its a darker green than it should be."

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Exactly, like vomet :P

Can't wait until the game comes... it may or may not be Sony's year but it's still gonna be their best year. Too bad Killzone 2 had to be pushed to Feb 2009... I was really looking for to this September.

Comment by: Gnawnivek (May 27, 2008 14:11)

Wow, hold on a sec there...

The MGS4 80gb bundle is actually the best value-wised PS3 for your buck. Of course, for those of us got the 60gb launch system, no current version of PS3s can top that if you care about PS2 games.

Everybody, especially DSWarrior, everything is overpriced for god's sake! If you're in the market for houses or just trying relocate, you know better. I understand the complaints and the notion that the PS3 is expensive b/c it has the higher price tag comparing to the Wii and Xbox 360. However, looking at the over all picture, you're getting your money's worth for the PS3.

All PS3 has the wifi build in (only the X360 doesn't have this). The only physical difference is the memory card slots and USB ports. The 40gb doesn't have memory card slots and only two USB ports, which is not a problem at all. You can use a USB hub to get more ports for games like Rock Band. You can use a memory card reader for the memory cards...

Now, on to the Gunmetal PS3 bundle... This is an exclusive PS3, it's aimed at the collectors, so you can bitch all you want, cause chances are, you don't want one anyway. I do agree the gunmetal PS3 is overpriced, especially it's the 40gb version. I was able to pre-order one from Konami last week (gotta blow the rebate check on something right?).

Comment by: MonoSoft (Jun 12, 2008 19:28)

For all you americans out there who think you're getting a hard bargain on PS3's, it's far better than ours in UK, 80Gb PS3's cost 400-425 Pounds new (when they're released here!) which is the same as say... 800-850 USD and the Metal Gear game is £45-50 ($90-100) and the worst part is i think we dont even get the MGS4 Edition PS3. So we're all stuck with PS3's unable to play PS2 games, unless we got ripped at the beginning (buying the 60Gb PS3's for the equivalent of 850 USD).

Hope that makes every NON UK PS3 owner happy..