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Comment by: sammorris (Jun 13, 2006 16:25)

Oh I've no doubt its powerful, but in a different league. PS3 games run nothing like Windows games so it's not easy to say. Heh, if you removed all the chains from running games in windows for PCs you'd get a lot more for your money with CPUs and GPUs in gaming too!

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 13, 2006 16:40)

sammorris

ture ture ,XP is a monster and takes power to run anythign else is "extra" its a shame no one has gone back and mae a simple GUI or soemthing for games to boot from like the older DOS stuff,but even then dos was a OS and it had its limits.

And now adays games on the PC rely to heavly on XP or M$ new mosnter OS to run...blah

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 13, 2006 17:45)

XP a monster? wait until vista. 2GB of RAM recommended?

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 13, 2006 18:02)

sammorris

it is a mosnter it cant run all my PC games,and SP2 is fickle and screwed with my hardware and software and drivers ><

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 13, 2006 18:06)

Whilst the latter is true, a PC is only as good as its hardware...

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 13, 2006 18:17)

sammorris

youve had troubles with SP2 as well? its so bad I reufse to touch it and MS has desided to drop Sp1 suppoort and havieng a full SP2 upgrade or nothign choice ;_;

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 13, 2006 18:20)

Meh, no biggies, my friends have suffered worst, because they bought it. I suffered the OEM system "no CD included" problem so got a copy of XP after my first reformat. I get told off by M$ abt it every so often.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 13, 2006 18:28)

sammorris

I realy wish they wuld break SP2 into smaller parts so I cna skiip the boardband limits (I tried patchign it dose notwork) and drvier mmmm "protections" it feels liek they are forceing you to buy new hardware ><

Comment by: HALTRON (Jun 14, 2006 03:06)

@ZippyDSM

When you say they place broadband limits, are you talking about the number of connections the windows firewall will allow you to connect to? Just disable windows security centre in administrative tools.

@ALL

DirectX 10 is gonna be vista only and vista being a massive resource hog means your gonna need serious power. I see AMD are releasing 4 core cpu's for servers late next year, with the desktop models to follow early 2008, each supporting DDR3. This sounds more like real next gen power.

http://www.reghardware.com/2006/05/03/amd_quad-core_roadmap/

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 14, 2006 03:50)

There's this fantastic website that allows you to download all the windows updates in .exe format if that;s any better for you, I've got it bookmarked on my home PC, so I'll give you the link if you' reinterested. Sounds to me like they're programming DX10 to be 64-bit only, to make sure you need Vista to run it. Even though my GPU then won't be DX10 ready, I'm confident it'll be able to play most of the new games that come flying at it.

Comment by: HALTRON (Jun 16, 2006 03:43)

I believe that DX10 is available also in the 32bit version of vista, so don't think it's 64bit only. I would be interested in the link however.

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 16, 2006 05:37)

I would have thought if it works in Vista x86, it would work in XP...

Comment by: HALTRON (Jun 16, 2006 06:09)

Windows XP is a continuation of Windows NT Technology which in itself was a departure from the old DOS based versions of Windows (98, millenium, etc). Vista is a whole new OS build from the ground up (hence why it's taken over 5 years to produce). I'm not sure why DX10 won't work with XP, whether it be becuase of technological incompatibilies or if M$ wants another excuse to force people to upgrade. But i do know that it's nothing to do with either 32 or 64 bit computing.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 16, 2006 22:25)

HALTRON

I have tried that and it never worked I ahve tried it 3 times with 3 diffrent version'sthe limits were still there with that said the software and ahrdware oddiest remain.

sammorris

Dont be greddy share the link :3

You guys are right if they made DX10 for the basic Vista then it shouldnt take much for the mod/hack/ect groups to bring it over to XP.

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 17, 2006 04:11)

Yeah sorry mate, I've been having difficulty finding it.

Here we are:

http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/

Comment by: HALTRON (Jun 17, 2006 04:11)

ZipyDSM:

I run XP SP2 with broadband and i have to say that i am not limited by SP2 at all. In fact this is the first i've heard of this problem. I know that there is a crack for the windows firewall (assuming peoople wanted to keep it active), but it's, i find best just to deactivate the firewall all together. Apart from this i can't think of why SP2 is limiting your speed.

This is better talked on a different forum.

@ALL

Read the link:http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30451

Just though you's might ne interested.

Comment by: howy_2005 (Jun 20, 2006 04:39)

folks....we've strayed from the post's topic...

good conversation and all.....but let's start a new thread for it, don't you think?

i know i'm a newbie and all...but seriously, stick with the post topic, that way folks looking for this kinda stuff can find it under a post rather than stumble ypon it through another topic.....

after all, that's what they're for.....

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 20, 2006 04:56)

Yeah, as a news article though, they always stagnate, and since your post is 3 days after the last, it may be better to just move on. Not much more to say unless anyone thinks of something!

Comment by: howy_2005 (Jun 20, 2006 08:42)

exactly....

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 20, 2006 11:13)

HALTRON

try useing Edonkey I know its not great and all but the effect hits it the most(50-80%),it dose at least a 10-30% hit to BT,it was rathering annoying at the time 60 a month for cable net and anyhtign that effects speed is a no no *L*

mabye they have tweaked it over the last time I used it.

The lasty tiem I tried SP2 was last year sometiem when I had cable net,I am on dailup now(moved and no choice of other).

THe limit to open connections is what is 90% of the problems and I tried all the fixs and they didnt do anything(yes the fixs said they installed ok and such).

Comment by: HALTRON (Jun 21, 2006 04:01)

What you have to remember about the Edonkey network is that you really need a static ip address to use it, did you have a static ip address when on cable using SP2? At this time what other apps where you using and did they work better? Whilst on cable did you go back to SP1 and use EDonkey? Did this work better?

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 21, 2006 06:31)

Eh? A static IP? I now have a static IP and notice no difference in performance compared to when I had a dynamic one, and I even have a highID (because I'm not using a router! ;-) )

Comment by: lxhotboy (Jun 21, 2006 06:37)

I dont even know when the last time the topic was touched on. And the bad part is that a lot of the people posting have been here long enough to know better. Open a new thread please. Thanks.

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 21, 2006 06:43)

Does it really matter? This has moved off the news page now.

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