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DVDBack23 @ Aug 20, 2009 03:42 | 32 comments

Yesterday at the GamesCom event, Sony unveiled the long anticipated Slim PS3, noting the console would include a 120GB HDD and will launch on September 1st with a pricetag of $299 USD/ 299 EU/ £249 / 29,980 YEN.

The Slim will feature a 32 percent smaller and 36 percent lighter form factor and will also consume 34 percent less power. Notably, the Slim removes the otherOS ability (addition of Linux on partition) but adds Bravia Sync so users can control the PS3 via their Sony HDTV.

Today, PS3NEWS is reporting that a CECH-2000B Slim model has been filed with the FCC featuring a 250GB hard drive.

The article says the documents were filed by Sand Dollar Enterprise a company "represented by SCEA's General Council, Riley Russell."

It is all speculation as to when the new model will hit stores, but expect it to cost $350-400 USD when it does.

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Comment by: varnull (Aug 20, 2009 14:01)

I'm quite pleased to see them remove the factory linux install allowance.. now the FOSS hackers can turn their attention to cracking this thing properly. Already have a working kernel so it shouldn't be that hard.

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Comment by: shaffaaf (Aug 20, 2009 15:09)

im stilll surprised that this hasnt been hacked yet! wtf did sony do? and why dont they implement it into the psp?

Comment by: Interestx (Aug 20, 2009 15:12)

Backward compatibility?

The direct quote from John Kollar (director of marketing) is - "Backwards compatibility is off the table," he told Kotaku at gamescom 2009.

Seems pretty catagorical to me.

Why would they bother anyways?
They'll simply add much of the PS2 catalogue to PSN and expect you to buy it again.

Comment by: SDF_GR (Aug 20, 2009 15:16)

I can understand some people, what did you expect?
A slim PS3 with the features of the 60gb in half price?
How can it be?

from the 60gb the changes are
-card readers
-2xusb ports
-BWC
-linux.
+60gb
-360euros

from the 40gb the changes are
-linux
+80gb
-100euros

And the highlight is, that they didnt removed staff/features to make you buy them as peripherals.

As oner said, if you wanted the full thing, you should have paid for it when you had the chance.
What you pay is what you get people.

Comment by: Gnawnivek (Aug 20, 2009 15:46)

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Notably, the Slim removes the otherOS ability (addition of Linux on partition) but adds Bravia Sync so users can control the PS3 via their Sony HDTV.
That’s good to know, I'm going to run out and grab a Sony bravia tv right now...

Sony lost me as a customer because of crap like this.

How's that crap? I like products that can be linked together, it's a PRO, not a CON... To be able to use the PSP with the PS3, it's a plus (not that it's useful, but it's a plus). So, allowing a TV to control the PS3 (i don't know how that works or is it useful or not) is not all that bad. Think about it, if you can make the TV and PS3 power up at the same time, that's pretty awesome. I have a Sony HD camcorder and it works wonderfully well with the PS3, i don't even have to burn discs anymore...

I think folks might be confused with the notion that if the PS3 breaks down the TV cease to work. No, the two products are independent, they only stop working if all of them are broken/defected. You certainly don't need a Sony TV to have the PS3 to work (vice versa).

Comment by: Oner (Aug 20, 2009 17:06)

Originally posted by Interestx:
Backward compatibility?

The direct quote from John Kollar (director of marketing) is - "Backwards compatibility is off the table," he told Kotaku at gamescom 2009.

Seems pretty catagorical to me.

Why would they bother anyways?
They'll simply add much of the PS2 catalogue to PSN and expect you to buy it again.

And if you REALLY want to nit pick all PS3's have PS2 BC...it's just that as of right now you have to buy what you would like when they are released i.e. Marvel vs Capcom 2 though the patent applications have been sent for emulation via the Cell etc. just a few weeks ago.

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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Aug 20, 2009 17:09)

why are they bothering with so many HDD based models? its uneeded....

Comment by: Oner (Aug 20, 2009 17:12)

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
why are they bothering with so many HDD based models? its uneeded....

What do you mean Zippy? When the 80/160gb are sold out of back stock (and EVERYWHERE is selling out as of right now) there will only be the 120gb Slim and the RUMORED 250gb so IF it is released there will only be 2 models.

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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Aug 20, 2009 17:20)

Originally posted by Oner:

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
why are they bothering with so many HDD based models? its uneeded....
What do you mean Zippy? When the 80/160gb are sold out of back stock (and EVERYWHERE is selling out as of right now) there will only be the 120gb Slim and the RUMORED 250gb so IF it is released there will only be 2 models.

Well after 100GB why do they need to go higher? I guess they can charge more for a part that dose not cost that much and its pure profit on that unit but..... wouldn't it be better to focus on one unit line?

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Comment by: shaffaaf (Aug 20, 2009 18:16)

play TV needs more :D

Comment by: H08 (Aug 20, 2009 18:52)

i agree with zippy, Sony Should focus on one model.

Comment by: Oner (Aug 20, 2009 19:21)

You can't please everyone...they want a lower price, they get it and complain about not enough choices...they say it has too many features, they get them removed and they continue to complain more...they don't think BC is needed...only to complain later that it's wanted...oh well like I said ~ Those who complain have only themselves to blame.

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Comment by: shaffaaf (Aug 20, 2009 19:34)

Originally posted by Oner:
You can't please everyone...they want a lower price, they get it and complain about not enough choices...they say it has too many features, they get them removed and they continue to complain more...they don't think BC is needed...only to complain later that it's wanted...oh well like I said ~ Those who complain have only themselves to blame.

Comment by: Gnawnivek (Aug 20, 2009 19:49)

Originally posted by Oner:
You can't please everyone...they want a lower price, they get it and complain about not enough choices...they say it has too many features, they get them removed and they continue to complain more...they don't think BC is needed...only to complain later that it's wanted...oh well like I said ~ Those who complain have only themselves to blame.

Can't put it any better than what you said :)
And i believe some of them still using that lame argument "now, the PS3 needs to roll out the games!"

Well, one thing i noticed that people stopped arguing over is "dual layered DVD discs are good enough for games, BD is just a waste of space!" "Why bother with BD, when you can use cheaper dvd drives!"

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Aug 20, 2009 20:09)

Originally posted by Oner:
You can't please everyone...they want a lower price, they get it and complain about not enough choices...they say it has too many features, they get them removed and they continue to complain more...they don't think BC is needed...only to complain later that it's wanted...oh well like I said ~ Those who complain have only themselves to blame.

Donw boy down!!

I was just thinking would it not save them money to go with a one unit setup? with the random bundle? By the time you add up advertising for all the SKUs and all.

Comment by: Oner (Aug 20, 2009 20:24)

LoL Zip ;) ~ But actually that is basically what they are doing since as of right now the only available PS3 will be the 120gb Slim, especially since they are not producing anymore of the old stock 80/160's and they will be sold out pretty soon...

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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Aug 20, 2009 20:27)

Originally posted by Oner:
LoL Zip ;) ~ But actually that is basically what they are doing since as of right now the only available PS3 will be the 120gb Slim, especially since they are not producing anymore of the old stock 80/160's and they will be sold out pretty soon...

Ah so the bundle has the larger HD and they are not going to have a separate SKU for it by itself?

Comment by: glassd (Aug 20, 2009 20:28)

I'm sure that the 120gig and the 250gig are made on the same assembly line. No added cost production wise. The two units will be the same PS3 other than HD size. If my current 60gig ever breaks, i will be getting the 250gig. The extra $100 will be worth it to me as i am too lazy to put in a larger HD myself.

Sony should have said that there would not be any WIFI in the slim, then let the boards light up about how that sucks, then "SIKE", IT does come with WIFI.

Comment by: Oner (Aug 20, 2009 20:30)

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

Originally posted by Oner:
LoL Zip ;) ~ But actually that is basically what they are doing since as of right now the only available PS3 will be the 120gb Slim, especially since they are not producing anymore of the old stock 80/160's and they will be sold out pretty soon...
Ah so the bundle has the larger HD and they are not going to have a separate SKU for it by itself?

Dunno. We shall see since all the info says is a 250gb has been submitted to the FCC and that's it but the 120gb is what is/will be available and is tangible in the "now".

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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Aug 20, 2009 20:30)

Originally posted by glassd:
I'm sure that the 120gig and the 250gig are made on the same assembly line. No added cost production wise. The two units will be the same PS3 other than HD size. If my current 60gig ever breaks, i will be getting the 250gig. The extra $100 will be worth it to me as i am too lazy to put in a larger HD myself.

Sony should have said that there would not be any WIFI in the slim, then let the boards light up about how that sucks, then "SIKE", IT does come with WIFI.

This si true but ad dollars go to it and that takes money, only if they sale 1M or more of the larger units will they really make money off it..

Comment by: glassd (Aug 20, 2009 20:37)

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Originally posted by glassd:
I'm sure that the 120gig and the 250gig are made on the same assembly line. No added cost production wise. The two units will be the same PS3 other than HD size. If my current 60gig ever breaks, i will be getting the 250gig. The extra $100 will be worth it to me as i am too lazy to put in a larger HD myself.

Sony should have said that there would not be any WIFI in the slim, then let the boards light up about how that sucks, then "SIKE", IT does come with WIFI.
This si true but ad dollars go to it and that takes money, only if they sale 1M or more of the larger units will they really make money off it..

I see your point. Is there much of a difference in the cost of a 120gig and a 250gig to someone like Sony. I know it is to us but we are paying the price of the device + middle man + retail

Comment by: H08 (Aug 20, 2009 21:55)

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I see your point. Is there much of a difference in the cost of a 120gig and a 250gig to someone like Sony. I know it is to us but we are paying the price of the device + middle man + retail

i will never understand why a big retailer has to go through a warehouse to buy its games anyway. Why wont companys just ship to the retailer?

Originally posted by fun2000:
Your friend in nam is not lying. She has a modded PS2, and the modder was generous enough to relabel the PS2 to PS3.
Then the pirate selling games relabeled Assassins Creed 1 and called it Assassins Creed 2. This is called marketing.
Your friend is honest and thinks she plays AC2 on a PS3. In reality she is playing AC1 on a PS2.

Comment by: xnonsuchx (Aug 20, 2009 23:28)

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I see your point. Is there much of a difference in the cost of a 120gig and a 250gig to someone like Sony. I know it is to us but we are paying the price of the device + middle man + retail
i will never understand why a big retailer has to go through a warehouse to buy its games anyway. Why wont companys just ship to the retailer?

Because shipping direct to retailers from a central location often takes longer and costs more than having regional distributors handle it. Unless a manufacturer sets up their OWN regional distribution centers, often the cost of the "middle man" distributor is irrelevant.

Comment by: milkyoreo (Aug 21, 2009 03:12)

I think we should all just take a moment to think about this. A 250GB video game console. OMG. 250GB is more than the world has ever seen for a video gaming system. This is above and beyond, folks! This here is the most advanced piece of gaming that we have ever seen!

Comment by: Gnawnivek (Aug 21, 2009 15:17)

Originally posted by milkyoreo:
I think we should all just take a moment to think about this. A 250GB video game console. OMG. 250GB is more than the world has ever seen for a video gaming system. This is above and beyond, folks! This here is the most advanced piece of gaming that we have ever seen!

Eh, i upgraded my MSG PS3 to 500gb, so it's not a big deal. It's not hard at all, any notebook (2.5") hdds will do.