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DVDBack23 @ Aug 19, 2009 04:43 | 122 comments

According to a GameInformer article, the Xbox 360 still has a high failure rate, of 54.2 percent, due to the dreaded RROD, e74, and other errors, a number much higher than its current console rivals.

The PlayStation 3 had a 10.6 percent failure rate and the Wii was even lower, at 6.8 percent.

The survey used 5000 readers, but the article does mention a few notes to go along with the numbers. The Xbox 360 is the mot used console of the three, with 40 percent of respondents saying they use it 3-5 hours per day compared to 37 percent for PS3 owners and under 20 percent for Wii users, meaning the numbers may be a bit skewed.

Additionally, those surveyed found Microsoft to have the most "unhelpful customer service," with consoles taking almost a month to be repaired or replaced, compared to 8 days for a PS3 or a Wii. 56 percent of respondents found Nintendo customer service "very helpful" compared to 51.1 percent for Sony and a measly 37.7 percent for Microsoft.

Despite all those numbers however, only 3.8 percent of 360 owners said they would never buy another 360 console due to the hardware failure or the poor service.

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Comment by: DXR88 (Aug 23, 2009 00:02)

you go find your numbers,ill keep playing my xbox.

let me know when you do, beside i'm still waiting for some facts and proof that the xbox360 is not the highest failing console ever invented.

so whats your excuse?

Comment by: Interestx (Aug 23, 2009 02:00)

Originally posted by DXR88:
you go find your numbers

Er, I don't have to find anything, I'm not the one trying to make exaggerated claims about the thing.

I can spot evidence-free nonsense when I see it and I called it for what it was here.

Originally posted by DXR88:
ill keep playing my xbox.

Just like I do then, without so much as a hiccup.

Originally posted by DXR88:
i'm still waiting for some facts and proof that the xbox360 is not the highest failing console ever invented.

so whats your excuse?

Er, that's at best illogical and at worst typical trolling behaviour.
You can't actually 'prove' a negative.

I don't have to excuse myself from anything as I was not the one making critical claims with no relevant facts to back my claims up, thanks. :P

Comment by: DXR88 (Aug 23, 2009 03:09)

Quote:
You can't actually 'prove' a negative.

since when? the court system has been built around proving a negative.

Quote:
I don't have to excuse myself from anything as I was not the one making critical claims with no relevant facts to back my claims up, thanks.

yeah you did, you claimed the xbox360 does not have a high rate of failure.

Prove it.

Comment by: chris4160 (Aug 23, 2009 03:17)

Quote:
Quote:
You can't actually 'prove' a negative.
since when? the court system has been built around proving a negative.

Quote:
I don't have to excuse myself from anything as I was not the one making critical claims with no relevant facts to back my claims up, thanks.
yeah you did, you claimed the xbox360 does not have a high rate of failure.

Prove it.

Xbox 360 doesn't have a high rate of failure anymore. It's all in the past, ps3 fanboys still say that it does just so they can devert attention from the sub-par console.

Originally posted by DXR88:
the xbox 360 is and will by the highest failing console in history.

Prove it.

Are you some sort of fortune teller than can predict the future of gaming consoles or something??? Or are you just a ps3 fanboy that is angry because he made the wrong decision...

Comment by: rvinkebob (Aug 23, 2009 03:31)

This is beginning to become a game. Everyone making accusations of one another... and BS'ing their way along...

Comment by: DXR88 (Aug 23, 2009 04:10)

Quote:
Are you some sort of fortune teller than can predict the future of gaming consoles or something??? Or are you just a ps3 fanboy that is angry because he made the wrong decision...

Yes im so saddened that i wasted $600 dollars on a over hyped blue ray player that to this day has no where near the library of games the xbox360 has. im so sad and angry that you guys get to have all the fun.

if only you knew :D

Comment by: DXR88 (Aug 23, 2009 04:11)

Originally posted by rvinkebob:
This is beginning to become a game. Everyone making accusations of one another... and BS'ing their way along...

I like games.

Comment by: Interestx (Aug 23, 2009 17:21)

Originally posted by DXR88:
you claimed the xbox360 does not have a high rate of failure.

Prove it.

I'll take up that challenge the day you post

Independant verifiable proof that the PS3 and its YLOD isn't effecting huge and increasing numbers of PS3 owners.

You'll be lucky to get any sort of admission out of Sony (despite the PS2 class action they lost - something which has not happened with Xbox - they never admitted any numbers for PS2 fail-rates)

Originally posted by DXR88:
im so saddened that i wasted $600 dollars on a over hyped blue ray player

My sympathies, wtf were you thinking of?
A game console as you movie player!?

Originally posted by DXR88:
that to this day has no where near the library of games the xbox360 has.

Yeah well that part is absolutely true.
Less games and less games with a high meritocratioc score.

Never a truer word spoken in jext. eh? :P

Comment by: Jemborg (Aug 23, 2009 17:56)

Interestx and DXR88, why the hell are you guys bickering? rofl

You both like the X360, why don't you just agree to disagree on this really quite minor matter?

The truth probably sits somewhere in-between.

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

Comment by: DXR88 (Aug 23, 2009 21:13)

Originally posted by Jemborg:
Interestx and DXR88, why the hell are you guys bickering? rofl

You both like the X360, why don't you just agree to disagree on this really quite minor matter?

The truth probably sits somewhere in-between.

i forgot why i was bickering.

Comment by: chris4160 (Aug 24, 2009 10:32)

Originally posted by Jemborg:
Interestx and DXR88, why the hell are you guys bickering? rofl

You both like the X360, why don't you just agree to disagree on this really quite minor matter?

The truth probably sits somewhere in-between.

lol, i thought DXR88 was a ps3 fanboy, my apologies for including you as one of them.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Sep 30, 2010 23:12)

Originally posted by Jemborg:
Interestx and DXR88, why the hell are you guys bickering? rofl

You both like the X360, why don't you just agree to disagree on this really quite minor matter?

The truth probably sits somewhere in-between.

The only truth about the 360 is shoty iffy wonky design and or design implementation, everything else is subjective :P.

Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
Ah modern gaming its like modern film only the watering down of fiction and characters is replaced with shallow and watered down mechanics, gimmicks and shiny-er "people".
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Comment by: sammorris (Sep 30, 2010 23:19)

Old post is old :P

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Comment by: DXR88 (Oct 01, 2010 05:04)

Originally posted by sammorris:
Old post is old :P

Nay old post is ancient, the poor aD server had to dig this one out of the secondary backup systems.

Comment by: Jemborg (Oct 01, 2010 05:39)

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

Originally posted by Jemborg:
Interestx and DXR88, why the hell are you guys bickering? rofl

You both like the X360, why don't you just agree to disagree on this really quite minor matter?

The truth probably sits somewhere in-between.
The only truth about the 360 is shoty iffy wonky design and or design implementation, everything else is subjective :P.

Old thread.... You've got too much time on your hands zip ~ go out and get some sunshine.

Yet I'll agree, the heaps of fun I'm having playing the old NFS:MW on my old Falcon X360 which has never broken down is entirely subjective.

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

Comment by: sammorris (Oct 01, 2010 13:09)

Not only does my Falcon console still work (which I would expect), though it isn't used that often, our first generation console still does too, and that saw a lot of use. Guess we got pretty lucky, or maybe it's just because we paid attention to where the console was placed for cooling reasons :P

Comment by: Jemborg (Oct 01, 2010 18:46)

Originally posted by sammorris:
Not only does my Falcon console still work (which I would expect), though it isn't used that often, our first generation console still does too, and that saw a lot of use. Guess we got pretty lucky, or maybe it's just because we paid attention to where the console was placed for cooling reasons :P

I'll admit to a certain amount of luck. So apart from that, it's not a bad machine. Gaming on it is a solid experience. I'd recommend always playing from the hard drive and using 720p if your telly scales up well.

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

Comment by: DXR88 (Oct 01, 2010 19:08)

i think maybe zippys brain has 54.2% rate of failure.

Comment by: sammorris (Oct 01, 2010 20:01)

The original console is for game backups. The Falcon is for current games. Falcon has HDMI on it for 1080p, so that's what normally gets used.

Comment by: Jemborg (Oct 02, 2010 09:04)

Originally posted by sammorris:
The original console is for game backups. The Falcon is for current games. Falcon has HDMI on it for 1080p, so that's what normally gets used.

The max res of X360 games is 720p. When I was playing Resident Evil 5 on the X360 - I noticed that there was image "tearing" in the rendered scenes (which is done in real time). When I switched from 1080p to 720p the tearing disappeared! Try as hard as I could I could not tell any difference between the different resolutions selected. I use a 50" Panasonic plasma which scales up well by itself. I have since tried this on a mate's projector and other setups with the same results. Try it you'll see for yourself.

What's the point of taxing the scalar chip (thereby producing more heat) more than you have to?

Regards.

Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

Comment by: DXR88 (Oct 02, 2010 12:52)

Originally posted by Jemborg:

Originally posted by sammorris:
The original console is for game backups. The Falcon is for current games. Falcon has HDMI on it for 1080p, so that's what normally gets used.
The max res of X360 games is 720p. When I was playing Resident Evil 5 on the X360 - I noticed that there was image "tearing" in the rendered scenes (which is done in real time). When I switched from 1080p to 720p the tearing disappeared! Try as hard as I could I could not tell any difference between the different resolutions selected. I use a 50" Panasonic plasma which scales up well by itself. I have since tried this on a mate's projector and other setups with the same results. Try it you'll see for yourself.

What's the point of taxing the scalar chip (thereby producing more heat) more than you have to?

Regards.

it depends on the game really.Ive got my console setup to my monitor at 1440x900 so i pretty much tax the scalar chip every time i boot.

Comment by: Jemborg (Oct 02, 2010 16:11)

Originally posted by DXR88:

Originally posted by Jemborg:

Originally posted by sammorris:
The original console is for game backups. The Falcon is for current games. Falcon has HDMI on it for 1080p, so that's what normally gets used.
The max res of X360 games is 720p. When I was playing Resident Evil 5 on the X360 - I noticed that there was image "tearing" in the rendered scenes (which is done in real time). When I switched from 1080p to 720p the tearing disappeared! Try as hard as I could I could not tell any difference between the different resolutions selected. I use a 50" Panasonic plasma which scales up well by itself. I have since tried this on a mate's projector and other setups with the same results. Try it you'll see for yourself.

What's the point of taxing the scalar chip (thereby producing more heat) more than you have to?

Regards.
it depends on the game really.Ive got my console setup to my monitor at 1440x900 so i pretty much tax the scalar chip every time i boot.

If my monitor did not scale up well then I would employ it. But since the games' res is never any higher than 720p....?

And if the game performs better with it just set to 720p...?

All I can say is try it for yourself... if you think there is an improvement setting it higher than 720p, then go for it.

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Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

Comment by: DXR88 (Oct 02, 2010 19:45)

Originally posted by Jemborg:

Originally posted by DXR88:

Originally posted by Jemborg:

Originally posted by sammorris:
The original console is for game backups. The Falcon is for current games. Falcon has HDMI on it for 1080p, so that's what normally gets used.
The max res of X360 games is 720p. When I was playing Resident Evil 5 on the X360 - I noticed that there was image "tearing" in the rendered scenes (which is done in real time). When I switched from 1080p to 720p the tearing disappeared! Try as hard as I could I could not tell any difference between the different resolutions selected. I use a 50" Panasonic plasma which scales up well by itself. I have since tried this on a mate's projector and other setups with the same results. Try it you'll see for yourself.

What's the point of taxing the scalar chip (thereby producing more heat) more than you have to?

Regards.
it depends on the game really.Ive got my console setup to my monitor at 1440x900 so i pretty much tax the scalar chip every time i boot.
If my monitor did not scale up well then I would employ it. But since the games' res is never any higher than 720p....?

And if the game performs better with it just set to 720p...?

All I can say is try it for yourself... if you think there is an improvement setting it higher than 720p, then go for it.

x900 is 900p, and it looks dame good...you may be right about the texture sizes, though like i said it depends on the game I've seen early games on the 360 that couldn't have been any more than 480p

Comment by: Jemborg (Oct 03, 2010 06:15)

If it was genuine 900p then I'm sure it would look "dame" good.

But yes, even the Modern Warfare games on the X360 are not in 720p... around 600 and something.

Microsoft removed the restriction that games had to be 720p since the first Modern Warfare. But they are still never over 720p.

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Its a lot easier being righteous than right.

Comment by: sammorris (Oct 03, 2010 13:27)

Yeah the vast majority of 360 games are still 1280x720 max (not sure about all of them). A fair few are 1024x640, as that was the resolution PS3 games were limited to (not sure if they still are)