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Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 02, 2008 17:08)

PC game developer has radical message: ignore the pirates
http://forums.theeca.com/showthread.php?t=4560

Comment by: navi1199 (May 02, 2008 18:00)

Crysis is an excellent game, problem is it's a little too ahead of it's time... this is one game for the rich boys

Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 02, 2008 18:10)

Originally posted by navi1199:

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Crysis is an excellent game, problem is it's a little too ahead of it's time... this is one game for the rich boys

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Ya they say the same about Bioshock but I still discount it as a watered down bland minmilized shooter.

Crysis's main flaws is its bland sandbox nature with no real mod/suit upgrades as the game progresses, it gives you a so so amount of gameplay mechanics to finish the WHOLE game with, because there is no depth in the design past the sandbox nature the game grows boring and bland.

its a 6 above average but nothing great and I would not call it good ..and I run it on high at 30FPS....

Comment by: navi1199 (May 02, 2008 21:44)

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Ya they say the same about Bioshock but I still discount it as a watered down bland minmilized shooter.

Crysis's main flaws is its bland sandbox nature with no real mod/suit upgrades as the game progresses, it gives you a so so amount of gameplay mechanics to finish the WHOLE game with, because there is no depth in the design past the sandbox nature the game grows boring and bland.

its a 6 above average but nothing great and I would not call it good ..and I run it on high at 30FPS....

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well if you really think about it, a fps really can't get all that good... all fps games has it going for them are the fast paced, fast action with dust flying in your face feel... So I was just rating it as a fps game... Even after the suit upgrades the game mechanic won't change much, only the strategies you use to complete the game... Crysis is nothing more than your average fps just with more better graphics, I expected nothing more or nothing less than that, so in opinion it did it's job well. Well except for the fact that it needs a killer machine just so you can have the joy of cloaking and messing around with the AI...

Comment by: mrmad2001 (May 02, 2008 21:46)

They really shouldn't have passed the blame onto the pirates. They drastically limited the offering, by making it almost unplayable to gamers. It ate my computer and literally barely ran.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 02, 2008 21:56)

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Ya they say the same about Bioshock but I still discount it as a watered down bland minmilized shooter.

Crysis's main flaws is its bland sandbox nature with no real mod/suit upgrades as the game progresses, it gives you a so so amount of gameplay mechanics to finish the WHOLE game with, because there is no depth in the design past the sandbox nature the game grows boring and bland.

its a 6 above average but nothing great and I would not call it good ..and I run it on high at 30FPS....

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well if you really think about it, a fps really can't get all that good... all fps games has it going for them are the fast paced, fast action with dust flying in your face feel... So I was just rating it as a fps game... Even after the suit upgrades the game mechanic won't change much, only the strategies you use to complete the game... Crysis is nothing more than your average fps just with more better graphics, I expected nothing more or nothing less than that, so in opinion it did it's job well. Well except for the fact that it needs a killer machine just so you can have the joy of cloaking and messing around with the AI...

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you have not played many FPSs.... with large levels and depth in level design, doom is at its core an adventure class shooter yet doom 3 mimilized E V E R Y T H I N G about doom but the dark atshophere

Blood,,Dues ex,System shock 2 Duke3D, Clive backers undiying, Quake 2, Unreal 1,Half life all these games have a level of depth that is missing in todays casual based corridor gun and run titles...... even Qauk3 has better level layouts than most of todays shooters....

Far cry and fear have better pacing than Cryisis,and because of bad pacing the game is needlessly repetitive and bland.

Comment by: stevexbox (May 03, 2008 02:09)

I understand that piracy leads to the sales downfall of the game. One thing that angers me is that people criticise and use Crysis hardware requirements as a scape goat to talk shit about the game, yet fail to realize that it is possible to turn down the settings of the game. I mean who the hell is trying to run this on very high on their $600 dells and then complains about it lagging?

Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 03, 2008 02:25)

Originally posted by stevexbox:

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I understand that piracy leads to the sales downfall of the game. One thing that angers me is that people criticise and use Crysis hardware requirements as a scape goat to talk shit about the game, yet fail to realize that it is possible to turn down the settings of the game. I mean who the hell is trying to run this on very high on their $600 dells and then complains about it lagging?

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Talk sht? statical fact maybe, how many people know how to build a PC cheap or what a game really requires?

then add the rub you wont get the best of the game unless you have a 1K+ rig, its just a snow ball effect they target a small niche (PC market running the game on non sm2 card with a hearty CPU and ramm), the game sold fine just not a prefect block buster like far cry, they are whining and distracting from the need of patches that vista is a nightmare and that they do not want to dev this game for the console.

Piracy is more a scape goat than anything else, you ave 30% of the populace whoas just never going to buy new, on a world wide basis you can have 100K+ people not buying the game and the game sales fine because they marketed it right from the start.


As for the game itself its ok but good lord its alil bland...

Comment by: mike.m (May 03, 2008 05:18)

Im glad that they are making games for consoles now, for not many people have a PC built for games such as Crysis. Only thing is that I hope games like Crysis would look as good on the Xbox 360 and PS3 as it does on a suped-up PC.

Comment by: Joshewah (May 03, 2008 07:43)

I built my roommate a PC that runs Crysis at 25-30 fps constant on all highs. After playing it for a while I can tell you that the problem with Crysis isn't the hardware required to run it... but that its just a damn boring game. Its a neat game to see how far graphics have come, but the characters suck and don't hold the gamer captive and he adventure/story seems forced rather than letting it unfold on its own. In the Half-Life series Valve has created an elaborate world around Gordon Freeman with interesting characters that actually make the games a worthwhile experience and well worth the money spent on the games. Crysis is just eyecandy, a benchmark, nothing more.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 03, 2008 15:47)

Originally posted by Joshewah:

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I built my roommate a PC that runs Crysis at 25-30 fps constant on all highs. After playing it for a while I can tell you that the problem with Crysis isn't the hardware required to run it... but that its just a damn boring game. Its a neat game to see how far graphics have come, but the characters suck and don't hold the gamer captive and he adventure/story seems forced rather than letting it unfold on its own. In the Half-Life series Valve has created an elaborate world around Gordon Freeman with interesting characters that actually make the games a worthwhile experience and well worth the money spent on the games. Crysis is just eyecandy, a benchmark, nothing more.

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Pacing is Cryisis acilchies heel well story 2 if HL2 gave you everything fro the start at least the story would keep you awake, the sandbox nature of cryisis makes it so tees alot of repetitivity going on , the game mechanics are good better than most shooters BUT with no direction or pacing its just a bland sandbox shooter.

Comment by: evilh0ly (May 03, 2008 18:39)

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For those not into computer gaming, Crysis was arguably one of the most highly praised PC-exclusive for 2007 and even one some awards for its stunning graphics.

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since no one has caught the error, well it's Won not one.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 03, 2008 18:40)

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For those not into computer gaming, Crysis was arguably one of the most highly praised PC-exclusive for 2007 and even one some awards for its stunning graphics.

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since no one has caught the error, well it's Won not one.

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I dun nanny posts for quality of grammar just quality of content.(lick) ^^

Comment by: nobrainer (May 04, 2008 17:54)

Ok then reading between the lines!

games with super duper graphics require more coding and a software house full of ppl omg we have to pay more wages, we have to make more money to remain at the cutting edge of graphics as this is what the PR staff tells us sells, we see that you can flog any crap to kids and THEY mainly own consoles, you can charge £20 more for console titles, and then we can issue maps for £5 a piece and extra weapons for £2.99 each hallelujah lets join the rip off consumer march! it all equates to lets blame pirates!


Far cry was awesome but wtf happened to crysis, it wasn't even worth downloading!

games probably sell more on consoles as kids are more vulnerable to flashy marketing and titles sold purely on graphical merit with a large busted woman somewhere in the frame.

most pc users are a little older and have seen this game many times before over the last 20 years, and was frankly very MEH

as i keep stating it takes more than awesome graphics to make a decent game/movie.

Lets hope far cry 2 doesn't suck so much!

Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 04, 2008 18:05)

Originally posted by nobrainer:

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Ok then reading between the lines!

games with super duper graphics require more coding and a software house full of ppl, we have to make more money to remain at the cutting edge of grapics, we see that you can flog any crap to kids and THEY mainly own consoles, you can charge £20 for console titles, and then we can issue maps for £5 a piece and extra weapons for £2.99 each hallelujah lets join the rip off consumer march! it all equates to lets blame pirates!


Far cry was awesome but wtf happened to crysis, it wasn't even worth downloading!

games probably sell more on consoles as kids are more vulnerable to flashy marketing and titles sold purely on graphical merit with a large busted woman somewhere in the frame.

most pc users are a little older and have seen this game many times before over the last 20 years, and was frankly very MEH

as i keep stating it takes more than awesome graphics to make a decent game/movie.

Lets hope far cry 2 doesn't suck so much!

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*applause*

I have not finished Cryisis but I played enough of it to know pacing and some missing gamepaly elements(IR gogles,item/weapon alert for hud,more upgrades to weapons and abilities)is what made it bland, the game is above average but IMO its unfinished as it is.

Comment by: nobrainer (May 04, 2008 18:10)

I think i'm just very cynical zippy :-/

the game deteriorates even further when you get to the aliens/quarry, it ain't worth finishing.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 04, 2008 18:14)

Originally posted by nobrainer:

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I think i'm just very cynical zippy :-/

the game deteriorates even further when you get to the aliens/quarry, it ain't worth finishing.

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Farcry falls apart after awhile but even so its better,FEAR can get repetitive but the story keeps.

Cryisis has issues but ti bores me less than Q4 and D3 :P

Comment by: varnull (May 04, 2008 18:41)

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and some comments here asre just dumb, insane requirements well sorry for not having a good enougth computer

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And I'm sorry you are a spoiled brat retard with money to burn... Give some to starving children in Africa ***edited***, instead of playing stupid games with it!!

Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 04, 2008 18:47)

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and some comments here asre just dumb, insane requirements well sorry for not having a good enougth computer

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And I'm sorry you are a spoiled brat retard with money to burn... Give some to starving children in Africa dickhead, instead of playing stupid games with it!!

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Come M'lady do you not find it funny when they have high requirements for it, and then whine about profits when everyone can not use it?

Comment by: DXR88 (May 04, 2008 21:29)

Yes Zippy Very Contradicting

Comment by: chaos_zzz (May 05, 2008 04:46)

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and some comments here asre just dumb, insane requirements well sorry for not having a good enougth computer

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And I'm sorry you are a spoiled brat retard with money to burn... Give some to starving children in Africa ***edited***, instead of playing stupid games with it!!

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dude i have a job so i can afford my own stuff,ppl buy ferraris instead of 20k sedans why can't I buy a powerfull pc, if u wanna help ppl in africa, join some help program instead of reading my posts

Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 05, 2008 05:11)

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and some comments here asre just dumb, insane requirements well sorry for not having a good enougth computer

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And I'm sorry you are a spoiled brat retard with money to burn... Give some to starving children in Africa ***edited***, instead of playing stupid games with it!!

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dude i have a job so i can afford my own stuff,ppl buy ferraris instead of 20k sedans why can't I buy a powerfull pc, if u wanna help ppl in africa, join some help program instead of reading my posts

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you miss the point the game requires a good PC and because of it they did not sell as many copies.

Comment by: DXR88 (May 06, 2008 19:04)

In a way the game itself was a test to see if sandbox could handle the up coming FC2,

also a 600 dollar rig could play this game on all medium if you wanted it too.

in any case i don't think this game was meant to be in many households.

also they say that it was PC exclusive when ever has Crytek been a PC exclusive Company. Sure they always release on PC first, but Farcry was turned into a 3 game franchise for Xbox. the PC didn't see these expansions at all.

the game failed, they know it, i know it. there should really be no excuse at all, but blaming pirates is all the rage. hell the attorney general said pirates a funding terrorist.

when i turn in my exam report for School tomorrow i will just say the pirates ate it.

Comment by: Joshewah (May 06, 2008 21:14)

Originally posted by DXR88:

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In a way the game itself was a test to see if sandbox could handle the up coming FC2,

also a 600 dollar rig could play this game on all medium if you wanted it too.

in any case i don't think this game was meant to be in many households.

also they say that it was PC exclusive when ever has Crytek been a PC exclusive Company. Sure they always release on PC first, but Farcry was turned into a 3 game franchise for Xbox. the PC didn't see these expansions at all.

the game failed, they know it, i know it. there should really be no excuse at all, but blaming pirates is all the rage. hell the attorney general said pirates a funding terrorist.

when i turn in my exam report for School tomorrow i will just say the pirates ate it.

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Far Cry 2 has nothing to do with Crytek or the Crysis game, The "Far Cry" name is no longer the intellectual property of Crytek.

I believe Ubisoft Montreal now owns the rights to "far Cry," and because Ubisoft is a multi platform developer/publisher they went ahead and made some crappy ports and expansions from the PC version to the consoles.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 06, 2008 21:19)

Originally posted by Joshewah:

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Originally posted by DXR88:

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In a way the game itself was a test to see if sandbox could handle the up coming FC2,

also a 600 dollar rig could play this game on all medium if you wanted it too.

in any case i don't think this game was meant to be in many households.

also they say that it was PC exclusive when ever has Crytek been a PC exclusive Company. Sure they always release on PC first, but Farcry was turned into a 3 game franchise for Xbox. the PC didn't see these expansions at all.

the game failed, they know it, i know it. there should really be no excuse at all, but blaming pirates is all the rage. hell the attorney general said pirates a funding terrorist.

when i turn in my exam report for School tomorrow i will just say the pirates ate it.

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Far Cry 2 has nothing to do with Crytek or the Crysis game, The "Far Cry" name is no longer the intellectual property of Crytek.

I believe Ubisoft Montreal now owns the rights to "far Cry," and because Ubisoft is a multi platform developer/publisher they went ahead and made some crappy ports and expansions from the PC version to the consoles.

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ya I heard about that, should be interesting to see how ubi rapes it, it was multi system deved so the PC version should lose out.