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Hirai defends PlayStation 3 pricesDela @ May 11, 2006 15:45 | 64 comments
"I think when you look at what we put into the box – Cell, Blu-ray, backwards compatibility, the ability to go online - I think it's a very compelling package for consumers," Hirai said. "The totality of what we bring to the table makes it a good value for consumers." Stand-alone Blu-ray players will cost $1,000 or more when they are launched in the United States. Taking the components of the PS3 into account, the $599 price is a good deal, but the $499 model has significant differences which might cause problems in future.
The more expensive model has a 60GB HDD compared to the 20GB HDD in the $499 model. In addition to lower storage capacity it also lacks Wifi capabilities, High Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI) support and doesn't include a card reader. "We felt that if you want to save something on your Memory Stick, most people have those readers on their PC, which is easily adaptable to the PlayStation 3 with a USB cord," said Hirai. "The only difference is HDMI – and at this point, I don't think many people's TV's have that. The ultimate result, to my eyes anyway, is there's not a discernible difference between what you get between HDMI and other forms of high definition."
While his comments might be true, the lack of HDMI just might cause complications for consumers who buy the $499 model for its Blu-ray player. Major movie studios pushed for HDMI on HD DVD and Blu-ray players because of HDCP, which offers more content protection. At this point it is unknown whether or not the PS3's Blu-ray playback abilities will be affected without HDMI. When asked about such complications, Hirai said that it was "too early to speculate at this point".
The main alarming thing about the launch details was how Sony followed Microsoft by making two versions of the console available. "We wanted to give the consumers the option to choose what fits their needs," Hirai said. He likened it to buying a new PC, where you only need to select the components you need and not pay for something you wont use and said that it will likely be the standard to have multiple versions of new consoles at launch from now on.
Sony also assured gamers that it won't be affected by shortages like those Microsoft faced when the Xbox 360 was launched late last year. "We have the advantage of manufacturing our own chips," said Hirai. "Most of the PlayStation 3's core components are manufactured in-house. The decision to give the go order comes when we're getting good yields. ... Obviously, the sooner the better, but we're not at the mercy of someone else." The company expects to ship 4 million units by the end of 2006, and a further 2 million in the first quarter of 2007. No details were given on how many of either PS3 model would be manufactured for launch.
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Kaz Hirai, Sony Computer Entertainment America CEO, has defended the cost of both versions of the PS3 console that will be available in November. The higher priced version, which will cost $599, provoked a shocked response from some gamers on the Internet, but Hirai believes this is a very good price when you consider what's under the hood of this next generation console. The most highlighted point is the inclusion of a
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Comment by: CrowDUDE (May 12, 2006 20:39) Again, If Sony came out and said “OK, PS3 is gonna cost $100 dollars.” then some here would start saying that it’s too cheap or some other crap. Fact is, if you can’t afford it just say it! Hell, I wish I had a Ferrari 550 but I sure can’t afford it, yet anyway. Who knows maybe, I’ll hit the lottery one day. The point is, the best cost money, PS3’s got Blu-ray and all that other good stuff that I can’t wait to put my hand’s on, i tell you this, PS3 is gonna sell more then that 360, at that price even. Then Microsoft will came out with a Blu-ray system called RayBox or something…Blu-ray is the future.. "If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts." --Albert Einstein
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Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 12, 2006 22:14) The price is high,I would think they would be better off flooding the market with 250$ Non BR PS3s god that would garrenttee them being king,sicne BR isnot goign to be used forgames at elast not for 2-3 years,altho you never know,I know itsabotut eh next big thign and sony is takeing the fight to 2 fronts Video/Media palyer and Game palyer,If the Wii is in the 200-300 range...I think they will grab enough of the market to be able to almsot be number 1 again...this is realy an intresting fight the 360 staggering from its lauch,the PS3 being pricey and the Wii has a chance to flood the market with a qauilty low cost system,altho rankly the Wii could be 350 but thats not cheap 250 is tho for a new system.If it comes out at 199 only the fan boys will not have one...well they will be it will be hid in a back closest *L* |
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Comment by: johnodd4 (May 13, 2006 04:08) this is complete bull garbage
i have seen all of these ps3 titles and so far the only titles i have seen that truly use the hd dvd blu ray drive is killzone 2 and final fantasy 13
it doesn't warrent the 600 price tag and i don't give a freaking hell what sony says why fork out 600 for a console that plays blu ray when microsofts external hd dvd drive will do the same thing for well under 200.00 so sony saying there console warrents 600 is like saying i have a dog turd in the shape of elvis's head |
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Comment by: Cinnjerm (May 13, 2006 04:27) "And there is a difference between HD and Blu-ray, Blu-ray discs hold more memory, try 200 GB"-
Funny, i seem to recall reading an artical on this sight maybe a mounth ago where industry officials admitted that hidef movies, on either format, (on average) would use only about 25gigs. If you'd like to explain what the other 175gigs would be used for, i'd be thrilled to listen, and what i said about names stands. Maybe if you get into marketing someday youll learn this. Just ask Sony; the name itself is probably the paramount reason you are jocking them so hard now.
P.S.- oh yeah and sisph, point taken. Saying a console is inferior to a computer is a copout. Yeah you could get a comp for 500, but then again the best video cards out now cost 600 or 700; and supposedly 360s graphics card is supposed to be 2 generations ahead of ATIs best.( Though i think thats just Microsoft embellishing the specs a bit) |
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Comment by: hot_ice (May 13, 2006 07:18) cinjerm, you may have a point. However, computers are multi-purposed, whereas consoles are not.
I really wanted to buy the PS3. There are two games I like Devil May Cry 4 and Resident Evil 5 that I really wanted to try out.
However, the price is too high, yes I can cough up the money, but I checked out trips, and for 690$ (around the price of the PS3 with tax) you can go on a memorable vacation to Venezuela!! Or even better.
Truth be told, I think consoles should be in the 300-400 dollars range when they come out;tops...
That's not feasible, but it is still a thought. |
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Comment by: dumbwhore (May 13, 2006 10:28) Wow, I was actually prepared to drop 500 on the PS3, I'm a sports gamer and ps loyalist.
But for some reason, the extra hundred makes a difference, and yes I'm wirelessly networked and use sd/mmc memory so the $500 system is not hassle free PS3 that I'd envisioned.
As for the PS3, now I will wait for a price drop, which I think will be substantial as Blu-ray, and cell components are more readily manufactured. I won't by the Xbox 360 out of loyality but the Nintendo will deffinately be mine. I read EA's article about how the controller can be used to juke, pass, etc. I'm excited, it helps tame the sting of the PS3 price. |
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Comment by: Jagosix (May 13, 2006 13:11) Hello. Basically it's like this people so take note. IF you don't want to get a X360 or a PS3, then don't. If you want to get a X360 or a PS3 then do. The same applies for every thing else that you buy in life. Bashing or putting down a console is ridiculous.
In terms of grafx, the programmers already stated that 85% of the games will be crossplatform. Meaning that they would basically look exactly the same on either the (X360 or PS3). Sorry Wii, I know you're going to be a good system but no HDTV support. Not even 720p.. sigh... I might still get a Wii. Whoohoo Blu-ray. Think about this : The X360/PS3 have these thing in common.
1. They both have a total of 512MB of ram. 1. IBM designed Both of the Processors. Even though the chips are designed differently. 1. Both have a HDD. 1. Both can output High-DeF 1. Both have an ethernet port. 1. Nvidia & ATI Grafx are basically on par with each other. Not much difference there.
So the only things that would seperate the two are the features & exclusive games.
Features meaning the Xbox Live service. Currenlty, XBL is the BEST online service period. That's a fact. The universal gamertag is awesome. & now since E3, M$ has upgraded the live service to live anywhere. Check it out http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/09/engadget-and-joystiqs-live-coverage-of-microsofts-xbox-360-e3-ev/. Does sony have anything that can currently compete with that? No. Will they? Maybe, maybe not. The same applies to Nintendo.
The price. When the regular consumer sees the same game side by side on different consoles & they can't tell the difference between them, From that point what would sway a consumer to buy that product? The price. Why would I pay more for the same game & or system if there's no relative difference (in hardware). The price will make an impact in this country (USA).
I could go on and on about this.. but i'm not.. Again it boils down to "What do you want ?" what features & games do you like ? And above all, the COST. |
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Comment by: oappi (May 13, 2006 14:19) i wouldn´t touch sony´s product after their nice cd protection... But do w/e you want... hoppyfully my antivirus will stop your ps3 attempt to contaminate my pc trough internet... |
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Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 13, 2006 14:22) hot_ice Have w been hideing under a rock? and if so where I hope its nexttomine I want to have a cool nighbore :3 *L* j/k 360 has 3 cores and the PS3 has..mmmmm 4 or 6 0-o I can remember ><
So yse COnsolegames are multi threaded,altho lookat quake 4 and its shuttering they didnt make it multicore becuse the publisher got in thier arse,altho that still dosen explain the bland level design...hell Q1 had more intracit levels 0-o --------------------------- johnodd4 High def games are beingmade there just kinda far and few between but then theres only 20 or less Hi Deff ( not HD DVD) DVD movies.
Plus I wonder when they'll start doing BR games up side more storage,downside slow reading ,this is where the 20/60GB will be vital.. ---------------------------
dumbwhore Well 500 for a system and games right?*L* By the tiem you get a PS3 ,a extra controller,a game or 2 thats 800ish then add 80ish for tax its insane to buy staff day 1 0-o ---------------------------
Jagosix Pretty much the 360 and PS3 are almsot even is sheer power.
However the 360 dose have a very good online setup,plus when teh 360 cameout they made or added a free live service its for basic stuff and basic MP matchs but its evoleing sony needs to get thigns in gear ,I wish one of them would set down with MMORPG publishers and make a deal I wouldnt mind payign 20 a month for onlone for a system IF that means I can get all the online gameing free (sports and MMORPGs) but no no new price shcemes,no pay for online time ,hell at if they would add for hours used I would be happy
5cents an hour X 24 X 30 is 36$ take time off for life 6-12 hours 5cents an hour X 12 X 30 is 18$ no online game should charge more than 36 a month if you paly it while skipping life,but for most of us it would be more like 7.50,and heres a thought if you are off of a game for 2 weeks in a row they chrage you 2$ for keep the account,the way it is now they aremakeing money hand over fist and dont tellme they are not,look at PSO its 8-9 a month,to charge more than 12 a month is insane...ok ok rambleing rant over >> |
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Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 13, 2006 14:23) oappi and Vista wont try and destroy every bit of unDRMed media thats out there? give me a break >< |
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Comment by: wetsparks (May 13, 2006 15:43) ZIppyDSM, Jagosix I hate to tell you guys this, you made some interesting arguments, but Sony anounced at E3 that their online service is going to be free. So all the people saying they wont get the PS3 because it costs more and get the XBOX360, think about this. I believe I saw someone say that XBOX Live cost $50 a month, if you pay that for the life of the console (7-8 years) you are goint to pay upwords of $400 more to play online while you still get the PS3 for $600 and play online all you want. |
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Comment by: hot_ice (May 13, 2006 16:01) Anyways im only buying when it hits 350$. Point final. |
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Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 13, 2006 16:11) wetsparks Thats good but soem games will still wantmoney soem sports and most MMORPG,the only reason Xlive is great is becuse they pu thought and cash into it,I dont see sony doing much 0-o |
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Comment by: Cinnjerm (May 13, 2006 17:44) "High def games are beingmade there just kinda far and few between"-
I seem to remember Gates explain that hi def is a requisite for any 360 game.
"Sony anounced at E3 that their online service is going to be free."-
Unless there are socialist crackers, coders, and hackers behind it; it's like they say, you really do get what you pay for. |
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Comment by: Cinnjerm (May 13, 2006 17:48) "Sony anounced at E3 that their online service is going to be free."-
Not to mention there is a already a free bootleg version of xbl with plenty of players on it, for those who don't know. |
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Comment by: Grunt14 (May 13, 2006 18:51) Don't worry guys im not here to write a novel, I would jus like to know if anyone has heard any definite confirmation about a australian/N.Z release... as i am hanging out to know!.... thnx. |
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Comment by: Xian (May 13, 2006 21:06) I bought the PS2 at launch. For $300 it was a pretty good buy, considering that a standalone DVD player was close to $200 back then. This time I am balking at the price and at the Blu-ray player. In 2000 I already had a sizeable library of DVDs, where I will not have any Blu-ray movies before the PS3 launches. Until I know which format will win, I am not buying either and will continue to watch normal DVDs. With gas, utilities, food, and everything else going up rapidly except my paycheck, the Wii is looking like the only one I will get at launch this generation with it's rumored $200-$250 launch price. For the price of a PS3 with no games I can have the Wii with 7 or 8 games. I am almost sure to buy a PS3 later, since the games I really enjoyed were exclusive to it, Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, and others of that nature, but it won't be at launch. |
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Comment by: Cinnjerm (May 14, 2006 01:57) "Until I know which format will win, I am not buying either and will continue to watch normal DVDs."-
Thank god someone has a brain. |
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Comment by: mudearies (May 15, 2006 05:09) either way price is not a factor. the ps3 is going to sell like hot cakes this holiday season ,even if i dont buy or you dont buy or all of your friends dont buy it ,still someone else is going to buy it.
ps3 is still my fv next gen. console mostly for the games and all the new technology. so yeah 599$ for a ps3 sounds really cheap to me.
where can i pre-order. |
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Comment by: oappi (May 15, 2006 07:35) ZIppyDSM " oappi and Vista wont try and destroy every bit of unDRMed media thats out there? give me a break ><"
m$ doesnt try to control their work with virus... dont get me wrong i h8 m$ also, but they dont use that kind of nasty tricks to protect their work... I m not going to buy any consol, but if i was going to i would go for Wii since they are most user friendly and havent tried to add viruses in my computer... i wouldn´t be suprised if ps3 had software wich contacts sony to verify legimet copys and content hdd..
but since i see you are one of those must have sony boys im not going to argue this matter anymore.. You have already made up your mind and nothing can change that... Personaly i think sony is nro.1 @sshole in entertainment business |
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Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 15, 2006 15:59) oappi *L* i see you have not read my posts,I have said the PS3 have a high chance to be better than the 360,but its still not worth over 300 to go to a new system right now now with the wash of poorly design games beign made nowadays.
""i wouldn´t be suprised if ps3 had software wich contacts sony to verify legimet copys"" MS dose with crash notify thing (when a crash happen you get that pop up to send them info and they can see if its a good XP install or not)
Its ture sony are assys tho look at what they did to Star Wars Galxies from a Descent MMORPG to a pissing match action game....uhg ><
If sony tires to pull and cheap tricks the moders and others will find out ASAP ,anotehr reason to give any new system a year befor even thinking of getting it. I have a brain...I think......
Windows Vister I dub thee vister untill thee can prove thyself.
I aint the brightest bulb around but I can feel my way in the dark...
I fuzzy braind mew =0_o=
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Comment by: handsom (May 26, 2006 16:50) Quote: - Sony's CEO David Reeves
For me, this is the end of my interest in Sony. They have reached a point of beligerent pride that is insulting to me as a consumer. They clearly don't have respect for their own customer base, and I refuse to support a company making statements like this. If you check around the internet, there are more statements like this being made by Sony; who now will only confirm one launch title on the system at all. It's a really unexpected change, but I can't see giving them another dime now. -------------------------------------------------
Will the PS3 dominate the console market? Maybe, if Sony lowers the price and stops lowering the hardware specs. For News on this: http://www.megagames.com |
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Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 27, 2006 03:43) handsom Ya your right sony has its ehad in its ass above the clouds at elast nintendo still gets it its not abotu power or graphics and not get boged down in a format war.... I mean sure I'll get a PS3 mabye a used one...in 2 or 4 years...hopefuly I wont try and build my owen (think I spent 400 building my owen PS2...almost had it right to,the one befor my current could read RW DVDs *L*)
Sony might be fcked but as long as devs make games for it it will be worth getting just not at full price *L*.
Heck the 360 is looking better hopefuly the frist generation will disspper as the next hardware revsion rolls in,anyone know when the next set of revisions will roll? Also,can you add your owen HD to it or did MS pull a quickie and make HD hard to change?I would want it with at least a 120GB HD....mmmm
I have a brain...I think......
Windows Vister I dub thee vister untill thee can prove thyself.
I aint the brightest bulb around but I can feel my way in the dark...
I fuzzy braind mew =0_o=
FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A. "Music And Film Industry Association of America.." |
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Comment by: handsom (May 27, 2006 10:47) With the last one; M$ pulled what's called a 'Hard Drive Lock'. Made it a real pain too. But from what I'm hearing a lot of people have been changing it this time around. So, either it's completely unlocked(Which would be nice, because laptop sata drives are easy to find now), or it uses the same locking techniques as the previous xbox. But I don't think it has any kind of locking, because modders(The vast majority) haven't really delved all that far into the new console yet. That's not to say the a host of cracks and tricks haven't been found. That new firmware mod makes my mouth water, but I'd have to buy some new DVDR9's for it anyway... :/
I *think* you can just switch it this time, people are plugging them into their PCs and all kinds of things, so it looks like there wasn't any kind of locking feature this time around, especially since the drives can be sold seperately, I don't see how they could lock a drive to a console.
I hope that explains your question well enough; if not, feel free to pm me. -------------------------------------------------
Will the PS3 dominate the console market? Maybe, if Sony lowers the price and stops lowering the hardware specs. For News on this: http://www.megagames.com |
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Comment by: ZippyDSM (May 27, 2006 11:01) handsom ah well that dose tears it all new systems are off limits but the Wii for me *L*
Wait...you just said theres no restirctions to the 360 HD right? I love it when it takes acouple hours for my mind to figure soemthign out >< I have a brain...I think......
Windows Vister I dub thee vister untill thee can prove thyself.
I aint the brightest bulb around but I can feel my way in the dark...
I fuzzy braind mew =0_o=
FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A. "Music And Film Industry Association of America.." |
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