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Comment by: Ludikhris (Apr 07, 2006 03:13)

It confuses me that people are willing to change their purchase over price. I think you are liars. If I want to play Halo, Fable, Oblivion, or games as such I will play XBOX 360. If I want to play Final Fantasies, God of War, Gran Turismo, GTA (before anyone else), Devil May Cry, Etc I will buy a PS3. I cannot imagine making the decision on what games I am going to play based one rouhly $200, anyone that does is much too price sensitive. If you care that much, just go buy a Nintendo 64, you can get 10 of them for a dollar and games are pretty readily available.

Seriously though, if you seriously dont care what platform you play the generic games for (and by being price sensitive you have no choice for console exclusive games) just buy a revolution. They will be cheaper, more innovative and have a larger amount of games at release (the downloads etc).

Also Id like to comment on the Disc reading speeds. Sure someone (incorrectly) made a statement of 8X the read speed. Then another person said it would be comprable to current read speeds. Truth is it will be very comprable to current read speeds however it comes with a standard HDD and I'm not sure if any of you have played games with the cache activated but its sick loading times. I recently recieved a copy of FFX international and was able to cache it into my PS2 HDD and there are virtually no load times. This does give PS3 an advantage over XBOX 360 and possibly revolution. 360 does not have a standard HDD and therefore software developers are less likely to include such an option or take full advantage of it because of people that do not have the HDD to cache it.

Ludikhris

Comment by: sammorris (Apr 07, 2006 06:44)

That better not be a slate of the N64, that owned!

I got one of those in March 1997 at a cost of £249+£50 each for the two games. Works out at $612 at today's rate.

The Blu-ray DVD system will seal the future of the PS3, but agreeably most of the sales are going to occur within the first few months of the release when the 360's inferior DVD format will be able to compete. Once the 360 starts selling lots of two or even three disc games, whilst the Blu-ray system is only half exercised, Sony may begin to reap the rewards, certainly on the games front. The Blu-ray system is expensive, hence the premium - premium console, premium price.

Comment by: snoop5023 (Apr 07, 2006 09:22)

I guess everyone is forgetting about price wars. I have had to pleasure of having both the XBOX and a PS2 and that was due the price wars: Both started competing for who had the lowest price. I got a feeling it will happen again. I just got an XBOX 360 for $300.00 bucks and it not the first generation XBOX 360. A friend of mine went to over to Japan when they were showcasing the PS3 and just the other day he played my XBOX 360 and stated that there is about a 8-10 second load time compared between the two. As far as games go: Ebay. I am not advertising for Ebay but I just bought 4 XBOX 360 games at $30.00 per game.

I do not mean to get off the subject. However, remember Microsoft and Sony have always (since the XBOX and PS2)done price wars.

Comment by: tin23uk (Apr 07, 2006 10:13)

i hope all this doesnt back fire on sony, i cant see the price being much more than $500 they really wont sell for much more than that, other than to hard core gamers or people with money. at $500 sony is losing money (when you think about the hardware in this thing) the idea is that they make the lost money back in accesories and game sales, lets hope everyone has enough left after forking over the $500 to buy some games for the thing.

$500 is a reasonable price and yes it has that expensive Blu-ray drive and you would normally need to take out a second mortgage to buy a standalone Blu-ray player, but really who gives a s**t yeah the Blu-ray drive is needed for the games but people are compairing it to the price of a standalone Blu-ray which plays movies, i want to play games not overpriced Blu-ray movies i have a dvd player for that and im happy with the quality of that.

and as for the release date that keeps getting pushed back, who didnt see that one coming they aint gonna release a $500 console in spring and expect to sell many for another 9 months (christmas) they just had to keep their fingers crossed and hope people dont get too tired of waiting and go buy a 360 instead, in fact thats why they gave us the spring release date knowing they couldnt make, that way people would skip the 360 release and wait a few months for the release of the ps3 then tell us we have to wait a little longer.

i know it sounds like im bashing sony, im not i cant wait for the ps3 i just hope it is as good as the hype would suggest.

Comment by: UHALL (Apr 07, 2006 10:18)

Lets wait and see what the PS3 can actually do and not go by what we are feed by the Sony corp. They are telling everyone what they want to hear, considering they have pushed the release untile the end of the year. Don't get tunnel vision, stay objective and don't get the wool pulled over your eyes by SONY.

Comment by: hot_ice (Apr 07, 2006 11:12)

Im still telling you, the price can't be over 550$, who the Heck is going to buy the PS3 over that price?

Not me, not my friends, probably not most of you, and probably not that bit*h Shermie either. hehehe

Seriously, 600+ for a console? Why the Heck would anyone pay that, for that price, I can get a new pc, with more promise than a console. Oh ya, it has blue ray technology, big deal.

The transition of the blue ray, from relatively unknown to popular will take at least 1-2 years before it becomes mainstream.

Besides, I am a smart shop, or would like to think I am, and the PS3 if the target price is bad...

Well you can always wait 2 years before buying.

Comment by: jin666 (Apr 07, 2006 13:27)

Heres what Sony said:

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/7453.cfm

Jin666

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Comment by: tin23uk (Apr 07, 2006 17:54)

the reason the release date was pushed back is because they wanna hit thechristmas market with somethin fresh, why risk bringing something out in spring when people dont wanna spnd much. sales in spring would be bad (at $500+ very bad) which would force them to lower the price to sell more therefore by christmas they would be losing even more cash by selling a lower price concole to the christmas market.

not only that, by giving us a spring release and then pushing it back makes people think that thing is gonna be amazing, we have been shown all these screen shots and such to give us a taste and then it seems like they are showing us an un-finished product, therefore making us believe that this think is gonna be better than we have already been led to believe.

and as i said earlier they gave consumers the early release date to keep the ps3 flavour fresh in our mouths sort of deter us from spending the cash on a 360 when if we wait a few short months we could spend a lil more and get this beast of a machine.

as for price that wont be released until right up until the console release date, i would think it would be around $500 but with the near christmas release who knows. just think all those kids that are going to be promised a rumored $500 console by parents, what parent is gonna let their child down on christmas morning because at the last min it turned out to cost $600+. they could leak rumors of a $500 release then at the last min jack it up to $600 just over the christmas period then bye feb-mar we could see that lowered considerably.

so if ya can handle the wait a little longer hold on to your cash a couple more months and im sure that the price would be lowered.

Comment by: KrazyKarl (Apr 07, 2006 18:35)

I remember when PS2 came out, I paid roughly $450 for it. with inflation and cutting edge technology i can see how it would be $615 easily. Gaming is advancing and changing its demographic. They can charge more b/c gaming isn't just for kids, more and more adults and playing and paying up. Sony can do whatever they want b/c the fact is they will make money regardless. The truth is that if $615 doesn't sound bad to you, just wait for all those "extras" you need to buy. Controlers, interent gaming adapter", cards, games, in reality you'll be looking at atleast a thousand dollars for a good startup cost. And, factor in Christmas shipments being low, forcing prices up, then ebay sales.....if you really want a Sony PS3, perhaps you stand in line get the first one, then sell on ebay days later for double....just an idea.

Comment by: DVD7227 (Apr 07, 2006 22:05)

not bad, not bad. thats a very good idea. Hehehehe

Comment by: neo1000 (Apr 07, 2006 22:49)

I bought the 3DO for $550, at it`s moment it was said to revolutionize the world of electronics.......damned don`t ask me where it is now, just be careful guys

Comment by: angeli15 (Apr 08, 2006 00:48)

i guess we'll just have to wait then..... but i think the money will be worth it

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Apr 08, 2006 11:09)

DVDBack23

100 for a game is a bit much 60-90 is not to bad,50 or so for memcards and controllers if the game system itself is 1/3rd the normal price it all balances out.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Apr 08, 2006 11:14)

The PS3 will make up the 500$ price tag in haveing Blu Ray in it tis jsut 300 more than what I can afford *L*

the 360 currently is worthless to me,it dosent hve any games I want,it still has soem hardware issues mabye soemthign to look into next year but right now its pointless to get,the PS3 is 3 or 4 points higher on my list but the price and the games being unknowen I can wait a year or 2 *L*

I want to get a Xbox this year *L* try and fill out my collection some ^^

Comment by: sammorris (Apr 08, 2006 11:33)

I'd only really buy a 360 if it was sub £100 for the simple reason that there aren't enough games for me to justify the outrageous cost of a console with so many flaws. The PS3 will be way out of my league to begin with but once it's reasonable I'll probably buy it. I only bought a PS2 christmas 2002, having left it to drop in price a bit.

Comment by: shermie27 (Apr 08, 2006 18:10)

It will be like 900$ people!!!!!

Comment by: sammorris (Apr 08, 2006 18:14)

I doubt it. $900 is significantly more than €500.

Comment by: alex131 (Apr 08, 2006 19:45)

Is this really going to have an effect on sales?!?

Comment by: alex131 (Apr 08, 2006 19:45)

Is this really going to have an effect on sales?!?

Comment by: Gradical (Apr 09, 2006 07:51)

oubt it will have any effect in sales, i mean everybody complained about 360´s price, but in the end preorders where totally out, here in mexico they even sold more than they had in stock

Comment by: hot_ice (Apr 09, 2006 12:38)

More than 500$ for a console, that's ridiculous.

A trip to cancun is around that price.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Apr 10, 2006 12:51)

sammorris

Ture let the zombie fan boys buy the buggy exspenive frist wave of a console let them beta test,I am to old and fussy to return a console nowadays 0-o

hot_ice

Ture but I would rather stay home and skip the hassle of travle and drinking water that givers me a runny arse 0-o

500 with a B-R palyer in it is ok but still to high for me to go and hock my "jewels" for bring it down 200 and I'll be happy to sell the "boys"!

Comment by: hot_ice (Apr 11, 2006 13:20)

zippy but you don't drink tap water!!!

Seriously, how many times have you made that mistake, invest in bottled water!!

Comment by: xhardc0re (Jun 06, 2006 11:25)

There is a very good discussion of pricing over at this thread: http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/7597.cfm

IMHO, adults will be able to afford the PS3 and of course Blu-ray costing a fraction w/ability to play video games. For children, teenagers and the other market segments (people >50 DO play videogames) the price will be a major problem. Not 1, 2 or 3 paychecks but maybe more. And a system launch always finds bugs & other problems. I foresee the market splintering between the HAVES and the HAVE NOTS. Nintendo, if they produce great 1st party games and have the 3rd parties step in, will indeed take away some of $onys market share.

The all important question is, will Blu-ray really matter? If Blu-ray bombs (HDTV sales being the best indicator), then $ony will see reeeeeeeeed ink and lost $$$$. They'll drop that price to take a hit & make up for it later (most likely higher cost to developers, meaning less games coming out).

I'm a PS2 player myself (no GameCube or Xbox but have a GBA & DS) & hope the best *games* prove the best system. So far, the best games seem to be PS2. Nintendo only has Zelda to go on. They NEED better games. They MUST give people a reason to go with a less powerful system, to play the BEST games. That mean, fun/interactive/challenging.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 06, 2006 11:44)

hot_ice

it dosnet seem to matter what I drink my brain turns it into whine 0-o

xhardc0re

Metroid prime was good if you can stand the Zeldaish controlls.Meh I go where games are have DS,CUbe,PS2,Computer,gettign a Xbox want to get a Wii and the 360 is looking better than it was mostly thanks to Sonys aragoance...but then MS is as bad,Anyway to paly the best games you need all systems

in tiem I will catch them all 0-o *L*

I dont think it matters if Sony bleeds money MS did and got over it,I think sony could handle it as long as they can stay in the game..