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Comment by: chris4160 (Nov 07, 2009 03:32)

Originally posted by stfW1K3D:

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I was playing a legit copy of Forza 3 and my system got banned. I had a Lite-on drive and flashed it with ixtreme 1.61 and wasn't playing any street dated games or games that haven't been released yet (this has also occurred with some of my friends who had their systems modded) I was wondering if anyone has any information on any new firmware release or anyway around this situation.

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Have you played any burnt games at all on the flashed xbox? ixtreme 1.61 is the latest firmware.

Comment by: stfW1K3D (Nov 07, 2009 03:35)

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I was playing a legit copy of Forza 3 and my system got banned. I had a Lite-on drive and flashed it with ixtreme 1.61 and wasn't playing any street dated games or games that haven't been released yet (this has also occurred with some of my friends who had their systems modded) I was wondering if anyone has any information on any new firmware release or anyway around this situation.

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Have you played any burnt games at all on the flashed xbox? ixtreme 1.61 is the latest firmware.

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Yea i was... I believe anyone with a modded system is at risk after the new winter update... I also have a belief that microsoft is banning people so they would actually buy a copy of Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 instead of copying it.

Comment by: stfW1K3D (Nov 07, 2009 04:11)

I have another question wether it belongs in this forum or not im not sure (i signed up today and am quite impatient) if you keep your xbox off is there still a chance of getting banned and what if you revert the xbox to its original firmware would that prevent a block?

Comment by: chris4160 (Nov 07, 2009 04:18)

Originally posted by stfW1K3D:

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I have another question wether it belongs in this forum or not im not sure (i signed up today and am quite impatient) if you keep your xbox off is there still a chance of getting banned and what if you revert the xbox to its original firmware would that prevent a block?

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Lol, this isn't actually a forum, it's just a news discussion. This is the xbox 360 discussion forum. Anyway, the xbox 360 has an on board memory unit called the cache. The general consensus is that the xbox 360 stores the game log's in the cache, then sends the logs to big brother the next time it console is connected to live. You will only get banned if you connect to xbox live though. Reverting to original firmware will not prevent a ban as the damage is already done.

Comment by: stfW1K3D (Nov 07, 2009 04:26)

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I have another question wether it belongs in this forum or not im not sure (i signed up today and am quite impatient) if you keep your xbox off is there still a chance of getting banned and what if you revert the xbox to its original firmware would that prevent a block?

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Lol, this isn't actually a forum, it's just a news discussion. This is the xbox 360 discussion forum. Anyway, the xbox 360 has an on board memory unit called the cache. The general consensus is that the xbox 360 stores the game log's in the cache, then sends the logs to big brother the next time it console is connected to live. You will only get banned if you connect to xbox live though. Reverting to original firmware will not prevent a ban as the damage is already done.

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Does that happen even when the only burned games your playing are games that have been released already (I'm asking because I was going to revert all of my friends' xboxs' to the original firmware)

Comment by: chris4160 (Nov 07, 2009 04:29)

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Originally posted by stfW1K3D:

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I have another question wether it belongs in this forum or not im not sure (i signed up today and am quite impatient) if you keep your xbox off is there still a chance of getting banned and what if you revert the xbox to its original firmware would that prevent a block?

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Lol, this isn't actually a forum, it's just a news discussion. This is the xbox 360 discussion forum. Anyway, the xbox 360 has an on board memory unit called the cache. The general consensus is that the xbox 360 stores the game log's in the cache, then sends the logs to big brother the next time it console is connected to live. You will only get banned if you connect to xbox live though. Reverting to original firmware will not prevent a ban as the damage is already done.

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Does that happen even when the only burned games your playing are games that have been released already (I'm asking because I was going to revert all of my friends' xboxs' to the original firmware)

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If it did happen, it would happen to every game you play on the console.

Comment by: stfW1K3D (Nov 07, 2009 04:34)

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I have another question wether it belongs in this forum or not im not sure (i signed up today and am quite impatient) if you keep your xbox off is there still a chance of getting banned and what if you revert the xbox to its original firmware would that prevent a block?

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Lol, this isn't actually a forum, it's just a news discussion. This is the xbox 360 discussion forum. Anyway, the xbox 360 has an on board memory unit called the cache. The general consensus is that the xbox 360 stores the game log's in the cache, then sends the logs to big brother the next time it console is connected to live. You will only get banned if you connect to xbox live though. Reverting to original firmware will not prevent a ban as the damage is already done.

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Does that happen even when the only burned games your playing are games that have been released already (I'm asking because I was going to revert all of my friends' xboxs' to the original firmware)

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If it did happen, it would happen to every game you play on the
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Ok... I'm just going to try to clear things up (for my sake), even if the game, say for example, Borderlands is a burned copy and you ripped it from the disc and stealth patched it and all, even if you reverted back to original firmware before they turn on their systems they will still get banned? Sorry for asking so many questions, and thank you for the help by the way I appreciate it.

Comment by: chris4160 (Nov 07, 2009 04:45)

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Originally posted by stfW1K3D:

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I have another question wether it belongs in this forum or not im not sure (i signed up today and am quite impatient) if you keep your xbox off is there still a chance of getting banned and what if you revert the xbox to its original firmware would that prevent a block?

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Lol, this isn't actually a forum, it's just a news discussion. This is the xbox 360 discussion forum. Anyway, the xbox 360 has an on board memory unit called the cache. The general consensus is that the xbox 360 stores the game log's in the cache, then sends the logs to big brother the next time it console is connected to live. You will only get banned if you connect to xbox live though. Reverting to original firmware will not prevent a ban as the damage is already done.

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Does that happen even when the only burned games your playing are games that have been released already (I'm asking because I was going to revert all of my friends' xboxs' to the original firmware)

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If it did happen, it would happen to every game you play on the
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Ok... I'm just going to try to clear things up (for my sake), even if the game, say for example, Borderlands is a burned copy and you ripped it from the disc and stealth patched it and all, even if you reverted back to original firmware before they turn on their systems they will still get banned? Sorry for asking so many questions, and thank you for the help by the way I appreciate it.

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Well, they're not going to get for sure. But the xbox 360 records the game info on the cache. So if a dodgy game is played offline, the console could/will be banned when they go online. Reverting the firmware back to the original will most likely do nothing.

If you want to play a burned game offline just buy a cheap xbox (either rrod or banned) and flash it.

Comment by: stfW1K3D (Nov 07, 2009 04:47)

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I have another question wether it belongs in this forum or not im not sure (i signed up today and am quite impatient) if you keep your xbox off is there still a chance of getting banned and what if you revert the xbox to its original firmware would that prevent a block?

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Lol, this isn't actually a forum, it's just a news discussion. This is the xbox 360 discussion forum. Anyway, the xbox 360 has an on board memory unit called the cache. The general consensus is that the xbox 360 stores the game log's in the cache, then sends the logs to big brother the next time it console is connected to live. You will only get banned if you connect to xbox live though. Reverting to original firmware will not prevent a ban as the damage is already done.

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Does that happen even when the only burned games your playing are games that have been released already (I'm asking because I was going to revert all of my friends' xboxs' to the original firmware)

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If it did happen, it would happen to every game you play on the
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Ok... I'm just going to try to clear things up (for my sake), even if the game, say for example, Borderlands is a burned copy and you ripped it from the disc and stealth patched it and all, even if you reverted back to original firmware before they turn on their systems they will still get banned? Sorry for asking so many questions, and thank you for the help by the way I appreciate it.

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Well, they're not going to get for sure. But the xbox 360 records the game info on the cache. So if a dodgy game is played offline, the console could/will be banned when they go online. Reverting the firmware back to the original will most likely do nothing.

If you want to play a burned game offline just buy a cheap xbox (either rrod or banned) and flash it.

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Ok, Thank You I have finally have answers. I appreciate it.

Comment by: heraldsun (Nov 07, 2009 05:09)

Originally posted by chris4160:

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I come with real info knowing a million times more about 360 modding than any of you and that is your response;/

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So you know "a million times more about 360 modding than any of you", yet you need somebody to flash your xbox 360 for you? I call bs.

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and you haven't got the faintest idea who I am... titles are worthless when idiots like you think they are

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And you haven't got the faintest idea that I do not care about who you think you are. Even if you do know a microsoft executive, you're still a loser.

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M$ choose which consoles they ban .. it isn't an automated process.

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So you're saying that there are people at microsoft which their only purpose is to sift through millions of xbox 360 logs and decide which ones have cheated and which ones haven't?

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How the hell do I know there is a way to get a console unbanned.. because there is a way, but it involves the console and M$ and a few certain facts about the history of the hardware.

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Umm no, it involves a banned release date console, an unbanned console and an infectus modchip.

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And YES.. they can detect the ixtreme firmware.. like they can detect flashed consoles which have never played a burned game on or offline as soon as they join the system.

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If this is the case and you know it, then why did you flash... I'm sorry, pay somebody to flash your console in the first place?

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quality will always beat quantity

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That's true, now go and ask any regular on the xbox 360 general discussion about how helpful I am.

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see why the sensible money thinks this site is full of complete shitheads and leaves?

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Only when people like you come here.

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oh yeah.. "got not clue" .. ENGLISH!! .. DO YOU SPEAK IT??.. you sound like some dumbass inbred to me.. get an education eh?

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So I accidentally type a "t" after "no" and now I'm an "inbred". Let's see your spelling mistakes:

1. An ellipsis (...) has three dots, not two, like you have misspelt numberous times within the duration of one post.

2. oh yeah ".. nah.. didn't think so."... ENGLISH... DO YOU SPEAK IT? It should be '... nah... I didn't think so.'

3. Double consecutive punctuation marks such as "??..".

4. "em" is not a word.

5. "frikking" is not a word, it's not even slang.

6. "titles are worthless when idiots like you think they are" you contradicted yourself/incorrect grammar. Basically what you just said/typed is 'titles are worthless when idiots like you think they are worthless'.

If I am an inbred for misplacing a t, then you're brain dead.

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In future be very careful who you run your mouth off at.. because you might get burned again like you just have.

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I do not consider being called a "dumbass" by a hypicrite on the internet being "burned".

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I know how they detect flashed consoles, but I'm not telling

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I know when the world is going to end, but I'm not telling.

"Applauds".....lol....thats the best come back i have seen in ages

Comment by: beenhad (Nov 07, 2009 21:10)

Welllll
Im gonna be honest,
I got had in the ban im in the uk and last night they got me playing halo 3 odst :-( bet there is no way of getting around this now short of buying another xbox eh :-S lol

Comment by: pspbarry (Nov 08, 2009 01:36)

there should put up a site for people selling there banned machine i would like one for off line games (cheap of corse) wink wink

Comment by: go4307 (Nov 08, 2009 06:32)

My friend has two machines that he bought simultaneously from best buy a year ago. They both had the new liteon drive and I flashed both using the same tool and firmware. Oddly enough, one of his xboxes would play his HAWX and prototype backups while the other one would only give me the XBOX 360 screen when he tried to play. The machine that would play these games got banned on 11-4. Can anyone explain this?

However, here's the real delema. He's fine with only having one machine for xbox live but he needs divx/xvid codecs on both machines to play videos from the network attached storage drive. Ironically, the non-banned machine (machine 1) can play videoes while offline but the banned xbox 360 (machine 2) must be online to play videos (i screwed this up a few weeks ago using the DRM transfer tool).

I heard something about swapping serial numbers to unban a machine. Would it be possible to swap the serial numbers such that the banned console (machine 2) becomes unbaned and can download the codec? If I did this, would the codec on machine 1 (now banned due to the serial) still be present and work?

If not, is there anyway for both machines to be able to play videos from the NAS?

Comment by: Codymodd (Nov 08, 2009 07:09)

I was wandering if the motherboard being a factor in the bans has been considered yet? As in they may be able to read the firmware off of the drive only from certain motherboards.

Comment by: Amos357 (Nov 08, 2009 22:30)

Hey I'm a noob to this. But, has M$ ended the ban yet?

Comment by: creaky (Nov 08, 2009 22:40)

Originally posted by Amos357:

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Hey I'm a noob to this. But, has M$ ended the ban yet?

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No idea, read through the last few pages of this one

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Comment by: stfW1K3D (Nov 10, 2009 22:06)

I was just wondering if anyone knows if microsoft has stopped banning people due to modded systems yet? (yes i did buy my copy of COD Modern Warfare 2)

Comment by: creaky (Nov 10, 2009 22:10)

Originally posted by stfW1K3D:

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I was just wondering if anyone knows if microsoft has stopped banning people due to modded systems yet? (yes i did buy my copy of COD Modern Warfare 2)

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http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/810730/4912503

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Comment by: scr34m360 (Nov 11, 2009 05:32)

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I love keeping my 360 offline. I play on-line on PC if I ever do (very few games, all legit of course). I don't need to hear idiots talking. I've seen my friend playing on Live, seems like there are more morons on there that I really do not need to get in contact with (I hate social networking). I also do not feel like forking over the $50 for a gold subscription with the risk of being banned (console is release model with Hitachi and 1.51 firmware; yes I can direct-boot wave 4 games so suck on that). I'll continue to play Rock Band, GH, etc with people I know.

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Your statement is moot and pointless! This article doesn't apply to you and you're not an XBox Live Sub and no one cares about whether you play XBox online or not. This article is for those who do play online.

As for the banning............GOOD. Anyone who mods a nice system like XBox and voids a warranty is foolish. Besides...........they are generally the same people who cheat online too. I ask you all, what fun is there in playing a game that you know you're going to win?

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seriously...without hackers/modders there wouldnt be developers..its the hacker who finds holes in shit and then the developer has to find a way of fixing it..its evolution and you sir dont belong here. where would society be if people didnt take things apart to see how they worked and make them different..we would still be pushing hay with *bleep* horses on a wagon because no one tried to advance. just because people mod there consoles does not make them cheaters or bad people..maybe some of us would like a good time without having to pay $60 bucks for a game that we havent been able to play and even see if we like yet. and maybe some of us just like the challenge of taking something apart that isnt supposed to be able to be changed and make it change. sure some people cheat, and alot of people think hackers/modders are bad people..but believe it or not the hacker is the one who will decide the planets technological security while constantly pushing boundaries forcing change and expansion. sure there are some "bad eggs" that cross the line..but thats like saying all african american people are bad because some of them are gang members! its retarded and stereotyping a person for there brain is nonsense.. you should be banned for having a small mind.

Comment by: scum101 (Nov 11, 2009 06:14)

Humans have brains? .. that's a new one on me XD

Case proved earlier in this thread... anyway.. I give up trying to argue with arrogant idiots who refuse to accept a simple statement of the facts as they stand. Got to love asshats who demand the leaking of industrial secrets (an international crime) as the only proof they will accept of something which a couple of phone calls to a VP in M$ console division would verify. Idiot still doesn't know who I am... and it shows the sheer arrogance of people who put pointless titles above real knowledge. It's a scream isn't it Rich?

To the person who asked "do the mobo's have anything to do with the bans" .. yes, but only in so much as they have a unique identifier for every console.

"can you get banned even if you revert back to original firmware" .. yes.. people who have consoles with nothing more than a M$ replaced dvd drive have been banned, they have also been unbanned after protesting the point. (can idiot face see the clue yet??.. nah.. still too brainless!!)

"why just the account and not the console" That depends how you have been flagged first by the system. Account bans are handled by a different department to console bans. Bungie etc pass forward account abusers to the live system admins who implement those kind of bans, it doesn't mean that the console will not also get banned at a later date.

"why now" .. silly season draws near, what better time to kick a load of people and force them to yet again reach for their wallet at the same time boosting the seasonal sales figures?

Remember people.. everything has a reason, and when you are dealing with M$ it's usually a cynical reason designed to make you part with yet more of your hard earned either to them or their "partners"

Comment by: dman4u2 (Nov 11, 2009 08:51)

i dont know about a site but you could buy mine for 100 dollars
its modded and is very reliable its a falcon motherboard it also has a more powerful fan installed i have run it for hours and hours on end and cool air comes out.
i sadly cannot use it for much anymore seeing as it was really a spare xbox that i had

Comment by: steventk (Nov 11, 2009 17:54)

Originally posted by scum101:

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Humans have brains? .. that's a new one on me XD

Case proved earlier in this thread... anyway.. I give up trying to argue with arrogant idiots who refuse to accept a simple statement of the facts as they stand. Got to love asshats who demand the leaking of industrial secrets (an international crime) as the only proof they will accept of something which a couple of phone calls to a VP in M$ console division would verify. Idiot still doesn't know who I am... and it shows the sheer arrogance of people who put pointless titles above real knowledge. It's a scream isn't it Rich?

To the person who asked "do the mobo's have anything to do with the bans" .. yes, but only in so much as they have a unique identifier for every console.

"can you get banned even if you revert back to original firmware" .. yes.. people who have consoles with nothing more than a M$ replaced dvd drive have been banned, they have also been unbanned after protesting the point. (can idiot face see the clue yet??.. nah.. still too brainless!!)

"why just the account and not the console" That depends how you have been flagged first by the system. Account bans are handled by a different department to console bans. Bungie etc pass forward account abusers to the live system admins who implement those kind of bans, it doesn't mean that the console will not also get banned at a later date.

"why now" .. silly season draws near, what better time to kick a load of people and force them to yet again reach for their wallet at the same time boosting the seasonal sales figures?

Remember people.. everything has a reason, and when you are dealing with M$ it's usually a cynical reason designed to make you part with yet more of your hard earned either to them or their "partners"

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Several good points are brought out, as I disagree with the way you are doing it! Ok could something be up with the timers, blockers and or any other part of a program that has been written to mod your 360? Yes, good chance there is!
Sometimes its the way we say things that can set off a spark! Testers are just that testers! Everytime something new happens, people run and complain. This has been going on for years! I am no newbie when it comes to the world of "testing" and have seen this go on in alot of different "testing" worlds. Black Sunday ring a bell? I think I just gave away my age there, lol.
MS can ban your Xbox live account however cant fry the box why? You own the box, not MS after its paid for! If it were me that was banned, I would buy another box and not do any mods untill it is figured out! Just my opinion,and just that an opinion.

Comment by: heraldsun (Nov 12, 2009 23:37)

Originally posted by scum101:

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Humans have brains? .. that's a new one on me XD

Case proved earlier in this thread... anyway.. I give up trying to argue with arrogant idiots who refuse to accept a simple statement of the facts as they stand. Got to love asshats who demand the leaking of industrial secrets (an international crime) as the only proof they will accept of something which a couple of phone calls to a VP in M$ console division would verify. Idiot still doesn't know who I am... and it shows the sheer arrogance of people who put pointless titles above real knowledge. It's a scream isn't it Rich?

To the person who asked "do the mobo's have anything to do with the bans" .. yes, but only in so much as they have a unique identifier for every console.

"can you get banned even if you revert back to original firmware" .. yes.. people who have consoles with nothing more than a M$ replaced dvd drive have been banned, they have also been unbanned after protesting the point. (can idiot face see the clue yet??.. nah.. still too brainless!!)

"why just the account and not the console" That depends how you have been flagged first by the system. Account bans are handled by a different department to console bans. Bungie etc pass forward account abusers to the live system admins who implement those kind of bans, it doesn't mean that the console will not also get banned at a later date.

"why now" .. silly season draws near, what better time to kick a load of people and force them to yet again reach for their wallet at the same time boosting the seasonal sales figures?

Remember people.. everything has a reason, and when you are dealing with M$ it's usually a cynical reason designed to make you part with yet more of your hard earned either to them or their "partners"

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Obviously you don't..have a brain..one quick call confirmed it for me...no-one has ever heard of you *wink* your full of it mate,just state what you think is relavant to this forum instead of crapping down peoples throats.

Comment by: heraldsun (Nov 12, 2009 23:55)

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Yes i speak english,if you are from the UK i'm one of your countries rejects or crims...you know the ones you sent down to the bottom end of the world a century or 2 ago.


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I could say the same thing but without the smart remark at the end. how do you know that i don't work in the same place? Easy anyone can say anything on the net...show me your credentials and then we'll talk.

Comment by: Anonymous User (May 26, 2010 20:28)

i think xbox and game modding are fun, i think modding games sometimes makes them better and more entertaining instead of just the same old thing everyday just like modding cod mw2 to where you can jump high, run really fast, and even slow. i think microsoft is stupid not all modders play pirated games, i think they should just ban the people with modded dvd drives to play backups, i have a modded xbox and the dvd drive is not modded i still got banned, the xbox is just modded to play emulators for nintendo 64 games, and other classic games. microsoft asumes the worst in everyone. my xbox is banned, and i love my xbox, but i cannot log on xbox live with my modded xbox. i had to buy a new unmodded xbox to continue to play online with my friends and they keep on supending my account for inapropriate content in my bio and motto. all i have in my bio and motto is motto: it's just a game, and in bio: it says how much i love about the xbox 360, and what are my favorite games are to play like mw2. i just cant stand microsoft any more there computers always crash and they have horrible customer support and service.