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DVDBack23 @ Jan 04, 2009 01:33 | 80 comments

According to year-end figures provided by Nielsen, it appears that the Sony PlayStation 2 remains the most played video game console, by far. In fact, in terms of "overall usage minutes", the PS2 accounted for just under 32 percent of the total.

Following in the list was the Microsoft Xbox 360 at 17.2 percent and the Nintendo Wii at 13.4 percent. The PlayStation 3 improved to 7.3 percent but somewhat surprisingly, lost to the original Xbox, which managed 9.7 percent of the total.

The PS2's lead diminished significantly from 2007's 42 percent of the total, but understandably so considering Sony has moved all their efforts to the next-gen PS3.

Year-on-year, the PS3 jumped from 2.5 percent to 7.3 percent of the total, the Wii jumped from 5.5 percent to 13.4 percent of the total, and the 360 jumped from 12 percent to 17 percent, all at the expense of the aging set of the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube.

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Comment by: lxhotboy (Jan 07, 2009 16:04)

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his has actually made me spend LESS for fear of not getting my money's worth (replay value is key here), so now I rent/borrow the ones that are "iffy" before I rush out to buy or wait till the price drops, get it on sale/trade (though that doesn't help the devs) before committing 100%.

I admit i do the same. I refuse to pay $60 for a game that i havenot at least played once or at least i am sure it will be worth playing from a friend's opinion or something.

Microsoft doesnot get much praise from me as i waited a while to buy the original gears of war b/c the game was old and had sold millions of units but remained $60. A friend actually bought the game for me as a token of appreciation as i helpled him out with support as he battled to clean up his life after being a meth addict. There are something i place more value on than $60.

Anyone know how many game sales are required for a game to become a greatest hit and the price lowered per each different console?

Comment by: Oner (Jan 07, 2009 16:14)

Originally posted by lxhotboy:

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his has actually made me spend LESS for fear of not getting my money's worth (replay value is key here), so now I rent/borrow the ones that are "iffy" before I rush out to buy or wait till the price drops, get it on sale/trade (though that doesn't help the devs) before committing 100%.
I admit i do the same. I refuse to pay $60 for a game that i havenot at least played once or at least i am sure it will be worth playing from a friend's opinion or something.

Microsoft doesnot get much praise from me as i waited a while to buy the original gears of war b/c the game was old and had sold millions of units but remained $60. A friend actually bought the game for me as a token of appreciation as i helpled him out with support as he battled to clean up his life after being a meth addict. There are something i place more value on than $60.

It goes to show a bit of your character as a person. +1

Originally posted by lxhotboy:
Anyone know how many game sales are required for a game to become a greatest hit and the price lowered per each different console?

From the Wiki for Sony

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Greatest Hits titles are colloquially referred to as "red label" (or "green label" for PlayStation titles) referring to the colored band that is added to the packaging to differentiate it from regular releases (which are similarly referred to as "black label"). A game can earn this distinction if it meets certain sales criteria within two years after its release.....

When Sony introduced the program for PlayStation in 1997, games could become Greatest Hits titles after selling at least 150,000 copies and being on the market for at least a year. Minimum sales required eventually rose to 250,000. When the program came to PlayStation 2 in 2002, games could become Greatest Hits titles after selling at least 400,000 copies and being on the market for at least 9 months....

In addition, Sony also allows other publishers some flexibility in the pricing of their own Greatest Hits titles, though most companies stick to the agreed-upon suggested retail price. Games that are multi-million sellers may become Greatest Hits titles much later than 9 months to maximize profits. It is also a common practice for a game to re-release on the Greatest Hits label at a close proximity to the release of that game's sequel or follow-up.

In 2006, Sony extended the Greatest Hits program to the PlayStation Portable. To qualify, a title must be on the market for at least 9 months and have sold 250,000 copies or more. The Greatest Hits price for PlayStation Portable games typically begins at $19.99.

On July 28th, 2008, the program was introduced on the PlayStation 3. A PlayStation 3 game must be on the market for 10 months and sell at least 500,000 copies to meet the Greatest Hits criteria. PlayStation 3 Greatest Hits titles currently sell at $29.99.

And for MS

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Platinum Hits is a term used to refer to a line of select Xbox games that have sold over 400,000 units on the platform in the nine months after release....

A similar budget range in PAL markets is known as Xbox Classics for GB£19.99 and Best of Classics for GB£9.99. In Japan, they are known as Platinum Collection games and generally cost ¥2800, with the exception of games from the Dead or Alive series, which have been sold at ¥3800. Sales requirements may vary by region.

On September 8, 2006, Microsoft announced the Platinum Collection would be extended to the Xbox 360 platform. On September 20, 2006, at Microsoft's Pre-Tokyo Game Show conference, they announced Platinum Hits for the Xbox 360 in North America, priced at US$29.99 and Classics in the UK for GB£24.99.

Platinum Family Hits are special Platinum Hits that have been designated appropriate for all ages. All current Platinum Family Hits are rated "E" by the ESRB, except for T-rated X-Men Legends, E10+ rated Sonic the Hedgehog, and E10+ rated Lego Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy. As with Platinum Hits, the new suggested retail (MSRP) is $19.99.

Best of Platinum Hits are select best-selling Platinum Hits that have a suggested retail price of $9.99 and a slightly different "Best of Platinum Hits" logo on the package design. Best of Platinum Family Hits are chosen from the Platinum Family Hits line.

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Comment by: SProdigy (Jan 07, 2009 16:44)

Forget if I mentioned that in the last post, but we are going BACKWARDS in terms of pricing for games.

I remember when the PSX came out, and the appeal for CD based games nearly killed the cartridge-based N64. I can remember Genesis, SNES and N64 cartridges in the $70 range, PSX and Dreamcast CD games where in the $40-50 ballpark. Jump to the PS2, GC and Xbox, and they raised to $50, and now $60... unless you want to fork out $200 for Rock Band!

In the time span between now and then, where more software has been sold (larger profit to devs) and more consoles have been sold (larger installed base.) You may argue that dev costs are higher, and there is a larger barrier to entry than before, but I call bs on that!

We live in a time with less original idea (IP) and more sequels and rehashing. Many games ship INCOMPLETE or BUGGED. They are pressed on DVD media (or BD, I know, I know) and stuffed with paper advertisement, and IN GAME advertisement.

The cat has gotten fat with multiple Tony Hawk clones, Madden rehashes, and "Part 4" titles and we've allowed it by handing over our dollars for the same old crap! Yes, I want "some" sequels, but please don't sell your soul for a short campaign a la Halo 3 or an online ONLY version of SOCOM. These are incomplete games compared to the originals. It's ridiculous!

On the other hand, PSN, Live and VC versions of games are kicking butt with low prices, small footprints and easy distribution. Just look at Street Fighter HD Remix, or Mega Man 9. Heck, even Super Mario Bros. is still selling strong and it's 25 years old! For the cost/risk ratio, I'd gladly pluck down a fraction of the cost for any of these games than chance a larger purchase.

Comment by: forumtrol (Jan 07, 2009 16:47)

I have been reading this and a few other news threads with interest. It's amazing how many 'newbies' and 'junior members' just post in this section and attack and abuse other posters, one mod in particular.

But then again nobody is going to spend their time creating lots of accounts just to pick on people are they? I mean it takes a whole five minutes to create an account to look like someone else is backing up your position doesn't it? ;)

Comment by: Oner (Jan 07, 2009 17:25)

Originally posted by forumtrol:
I have been reading this and a few other news threads with interest. It's amazing how many 'newbies' and 'junior members' just post in this section and attack and abuse other posters, one mod in particular.

But then again nobody is going to spend their time creating lots of accounts just to pick on people are they? I mean it takes a whole five minutes to create an account to look like someone else is backing up your position doesn't it? ;)

We have tools to find/fix that ;)

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Comment by: forumtrol (Jan 07, 2009 19:17)

Yeah, you do from the same ip address.

But a lot of people have access at home and at work. And as well as that, if you really wanted to get obsessive about it, there's public libraries, friends houses, etc, etc! ;)

Comment by: Globe08 (Jan 07, 2009 19:52)

I love you all lets just be happy LOL jk

P.S i asked you b4 and i dont think you responded im not sure but how many posts are requred to not be a newbie i posts in spurts and the whole wait 3 minutes gets me sometimes when im rolling????????

Comment by: bilen (Jan 07, 2009 20:39)

Oner, nothing against you or the help you hane given here or elsewhere. It's just in every forum about video games you are alway's posting about how ps3 is doing fine and it might be, if not now then later;). Alway's throwin figures at us and standin your point(which is good) but even in the 360 news articles? Just let them be and pick your battles. Don't need to push your opinion on everyone. and by the way the ps2 was a good machine(even though i went through 3 of them) and if i didn't sell my modded one for a 360 i would still be playin it(still got my modded original xbox though ) and i plan on buyin a ps3 when the prices come down. not rich ya know!

Comment by: Oner (Jan 07, 2009 20:45)

Originally posted by Globe08:
how many posts are requred to not be a newbie i posts in spurts and the whole wait 3 minutes gets me sometimes when im rolling????????

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Posts made in the Safety valve are not taken into account when calculating member levels.

It seems you have enough in total (going by a quick search) so the only thing I could say it would be is that maybe it's an issue with the code or that it is the same as the safety valve since the News is actually a seperate link that is also tied to a forum area? Either way you seem to only have 17 in other areas on the forum. Try posting a couple time in various other threads to see if we can confirm this to be true/so.

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Comment by: Globe08 (Jan 07, 2009 21:03)

yeh ill give it a try but i do mainly posts in the news section so im sure thats what it is.Thanks at any rate though

Comment by: SProdigy (Jan 08, 2009 04:28)

Originally posted by Oner:

Originally posted by Globe08:
how many posts are requred to not be a newbie i posts in spurts and the whole wait 3 minutes gets me sometimes when im rolling????????

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/102943

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Junior Member to Member -- 100 posts
Member to Senior Member -- 500 posts
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anyone to Admin -- decent six-figure (euros or dollars, we are not picky) lump sum to AfterDawn's Swiss bank account

Update:
Posts made in the Safety valve are not taken into account when calculating member levels.
It seems you have enough in total (going by a quick search) so the only thing I could say it would be is that maybe it's an issue with the code or that it is the same as the safety valve since the News is actually a seperate link that is also tied to a forum area? Either way you seem to only have 17 in other areas on the forum. Try posting a couple time in various other threads to see if we can confirm this to be true/so.

That's quite odd, considering the majority of mine are in the news section as well... and until now, I never looked up my post total, not that I cared after the time restriction was posted, but I "should" be a senior member now! LOL

Comment by: DXR88 (Jan 08, 2009 17:49)

You have posted 1237 messages to our discussion forums since you created your account on Tuesday 29 May 2007.
So far you've received 46 private messages through our site..

so says my account info. rank doesn't bother me as much as creditability though.

Comment by: Globe08 (Jan 08, 2009 20:05)

Originally posted by DXR88:
You have posted 1237 messages to our discussion forums since you created your account on Tuesday 29 May 2007.
So far you've received 46 private messages through our site..

so says my account info. rank doesn't bother me as much as creditability though.

nor does it me but id like to be able to post just as often as otehrs and i ramble post in spurts.Being a newbie my impatient a$$ has to wait a WHOLE 3 minute LMFAO

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You have posted 125 messages to our discussion forums since you created your account on Tuesday 04 December 2007.
So far you've received 4 private messages through our site..

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Thats what mine says but im still a newbie.Title can also go to credibilty...1st impressions eh...LOL

Comment by: Morreale (Jan 08, 2009 23:30)

I had over 1000 posts on my old account, but magically the password and email was changed and no one cared to help me >:

Now I'm stuck with this 3min BS or whatever >:

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Newbies can't post more than one post every 3 minutes. This is done to prevent spambots to pollute our site. Apologies for inconvenience.

Gahhh! I'm not a Newbie!!!

Comment by: DXR88 (Jan 09, 2009 05:34)

it used to be five minutes if i'm not mistaken.

Comment by: LOCOENG (Jan 09, 2009 06:10)

I think if someone has a problem with another member, mod, staff member etc. it should be taken to PM and get the target of the topic stay on course.

Comment by: Morreale (Jan 09, 2009 13:07)

If we are allowed to argue our oppinions then I think mod should be allowed to... They were regular members once before right?

Anyways for the PS2 thing do they count people that play PS2 games on their PS3? I still play San Andreas on my PS3... lol

Comment by: Oner (Jan 09, 2009 14:14)

Originally posted by LOCOENG:
I think if someone has a problem with another member, mod, staff member etc. it should be taken to PM and get the target of the topic stay on course.

Thank You Loco, but the honest truth is I don't get that courtesy. For some reason it is always becomes something personal towards me (consistently by certain people) instead of towards the topic/issue at hand. Instead it always reverts to "how can we discredit, ban or get Oner into trouble"...and as of late it is because they are mistaken or have been mislead to beleive some false information about moderators "barring themselves from posting on topic such as this". You, I and the rest all know that is not what the big man made clear.

I'll go out on a limb here and say I know that I can post quite vehemently at times but nowhere as much as people make it out to be. It just gets under my skin when people post blatant, outright misinformation and when they are proven wrong by verifiable facts I get cast as a "bad moderator" that has a hidden agenda with some ties to Sony!...talk about needing aluminum foil caps. Whatever. If need be I will have no issue with the powers that be to prove how certain people have got something out for me....again with verifiable facts and their documented misinformation.

I love aD too much to give ANYTHING up without a fight (especially when all they have is BS false accusations as described above). And if anyone truly knows anything about me, that would be I don't roll over when I believe in something I hold dear or when it comes to my character.

Originally posted by Morreale:
If we are allowed to argue our oppinions then I think mod should be allowed to... They were regular members once before right?

We are always posters, contributors, helpers & information givers at heart but we have been offered the ability to also moderate. I don't see how anyone would have been lead to believe something different when all my information shows something TOTALLY different and right from the horses mouth too.

Originally posted by Morreale:
Anyways for the PS2 thing do they count people that play PS2 games on their PS3? I still play San Andreas on my PS3... lol

I would like to know that as well, but would guess the Neilsen ratings would account for that. Wouldn't it? As it would be quite clear that they are using a PS3?..? But that is a good question and could be a grey area.

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Comment by: Globe08 (Jan 09, 2009 19:49)

Originally posted by LOCOENG:
I think if someone has a problem with another member, mod, staff member etc. it should be taken to PM and get the target of the topic stay on course.

Both ways are equally ineffective from my experience

Comment by: Azazel61 (Jan 09, 2009 20:35)

Originally posted by Globe08:

Originally posted by LOCOENG:
I think if someone has a problem with another member, mod, staff member etc. it should be taken to PM and get the target of the topic stay on course.
Both ways are equally ineffective from my experience

My opinion is this; effictiveness aside why should a thread be somewhat polluted by banter. I personally think handling it the way LOCOENG stated would be the appropriate course of action.

Comment by: Oner (Jan 09, 2009 21:01)

I agree, but there are some key issues missing here...no PM's where sent and it became a personal thing towards me over anything else (amongst other points). As well as there where gaming discussions going on along with certain remarks.

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Comment by: Globe08 (Jan 09, 2009 22:41)

Originally posted by LOCOENG:
I think if someone has a problem with another member, mod, staff member etc. it should be taken to PM and get the target of the topic stay on course.

What brought on this statement? I could be blind,actaully im betting on it but i didnt see what started the convo in this direction. Again im genuinely asking not stirring the pot. Ive learned the hard way so i take the extra step to not leave doubts about my demeanor.

No offence yes Mods are members just like us all but unlike us all they have power and sometimes they conversate or communicate their views in an argumentative manner and then get heated when an arugment insues. And Since they have the power they should have to have higher expectations of how they conduct themselves.If this was all about us asking about the post count relation to member status i find it a little strange that this particular conversation was cut so short and the religon debate started in another thread i wont mention ran for 30 plus posts. Lets pick our battles wisely and if thats the case this was sure a STRANGE decision.Sometimes its better this is out in the open for all to see instead of things being swept under the carpet in a P.M

Comment by: Globe08 (Jan 09, 2009 22:51)

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Originally posted by Globe08:

Originally posted by LOCOENG:
I think if someone has a problem with another member, mod, staff member etc. it should be taken to PM and get the target of the topic stay on course.
Both ways are equally ineffective from my experience
My opinion is this; effictiveness aside why should a thread be somewhat polluted by banter. I personally think handling it the way LOCOENG stated would be the appropriate course of action.

I can see where your coming from BUT effectiveness is hella important and should never be taken out of the equation. And why does banter have to be bad? Theres too much of this lack of communication with this world. I agree childish insult flinging thats not done tastefully is no good for forums. But if you got one guy calling another cluesless and uniformed and the other person comes back with correct information and lays it out beautifully and slaps a "take that sh!tter" somewhere in there i dont see the need for grown men and women in a Electronics forum to get their panties in a bunch.Just my humble opinion for what its worth. Trash talking can help elevate the atmosphere and raise the bar in competition and if handled right at times in discussions can turn into debates which are healthy and COMPETITIVE!But yes the childish little bickering here and there is obnoxious and generally you can gather the age of the participants by reading their posts...END RANT

Comment by: LOCOENG (Jan 09, 2009 23:25)

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What brought on this statement?

Title of thread ~ ***PlayStation 2 still the most played console***

This thread isn't about abuse of power, member level or why should it be on topic.

8. Don't reply with an off-topic comment/question

That is all I have to say...so lets get to the topic.

Comment by: Globe08 (Jan 09, 2009 23:32)

meh, Playstation 2 did some amazing things...this however is not one of them and need not be discussed to this level hence people have went off topic.CLOSE THE THREAD PLEASE

P.S 25 consecutive posts not directly realting to topic should serve as a hint. minue my posts and its still atleast 17 posts off topic.