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Comment by: sciascia (Nov 08, 2007 16:49)

I agree. Had Sony supported BWC on the PS3 a little better, people would have something to do while they wait for actual PS3 games to come out. PS2 had the same thing happen in the beginning, remember the horrible launch line up of games(Fantavision)? But the fact that it doubled as a PS1 and a DVD player made it a good buy.

Comment by: DXR88 (Nov 08, 2007 17:16)

There processor was too advanced for there own good. it was the processor that cost them the game. Nobody could develope games in a certain time frame on the hardware because of the processors design.
this cost them third party devs help. and left them with there main programming force.

the Cell processor was a bad choice for them i said it would be there downfall when they said that there were gona release it for the
PS3... it just so happens i was right.

Comment by: spydah (Nov 08, 2007 18:23)

Originally posted by DXR88:

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There processor was too advanced for there own good. it was the processor that cost them the game. Nobody could develope games in a certain time frame on the hardware because of the processors design.
this cost them third party devs help. and left them with there main programming force.

the Cell processor was a bad choice for them i said it would be there downfall when they said that there were gona release it for the
PS3... it just so happens i was right.

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I agree that they should have weighed their opinions better but i dont think this cost them the game yet. Its great they have seen this as an issue early within the first year since launch rather then waiting 3 years to revision their systems with newly unfamiliar promised specs. I want to see whats the next step. I am pleased with my PS3 overall but they really need to get their heads in the game.

Comment by: DXR88 (Nov 08, 2007 21:09)

Yes. i highly agree with you spydah, But it could be to late to get back in the game for them this time. thats all im trying to say.
however the probaly will resort to an market shceme.

With them making the new PS2 they will save some cash if they sell a PS3 great thats more cash they will then put a hold on that cash for the new PS4 if every thing work accordinly.

how ever i see 2 thing wrong with this approuch there no longer focusing on the PS3 But instead on the PS2. the other thing i see wrong is there focusing on a console many people including myself have.

to some it up there balencing on a if one thing fails we have another thing to take care of us. (us=Cash)

this is very anti-consumer because it could leave a lot of people in the dark.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Nov 08, 2007 21:20)

Originally posted by DXR88:

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Yes. i highly agree with you spydah, But it could be to late to get back in the game for them this time. thats all im trying to say.
however the probaly will resort to an market shceme.

With them making the new PS2 they will save some cash if they sell a PS3 great thats more cash they will then put a hold on that cash for the new PS4 if every thing work accordinly.

how ever i see 2 thing wrong with this approuch there no longer focusing on the PS3 But instead on the PS2. the other thing i see wrong is there focusing on a console many people including myself have.

to some it up there balencing on a if one thing fails we have another thing to take care of us. (us=Cash)

this is very anti-consumer because it could leave a lot of people in the dark.

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This dose remind me of N64 more than the DC Sony as a while has the moeny to handle the PS3 not being a great grand success they can over come this but will their CEOs let them their suits are some of the craziest in the world, its almost like its being run by a zippy off his meds LOL

Comment by: vinny13 (Nov 08, 2007 21:25)

How is Sony focusing on the PS2? They made a revised one. And? I would do the same thing if I had a successful product like that. Thy don't care. They need money. The PS3 is in the ground right now and I believe that all the money made by the PS2 is being used as a shovel to dig it out. It's not like they're still making PS2 exclusives :P

And how come no one ever mentions the M$ BS? Sony this, Sony that, but because the 360 has had a successful launch of diseased consoled no one says anything. Sounds fanboyish, but it's true.

I'm still gonna get a PS3 by the way :)

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Nov 08, 2007 21:35)

Originally posted by vinny13:

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How is Sony focusing on the PS2? They made a revised one. And? I would do the same thing if I had a successful product like that. Thy don't care. They need money. The PS3 is in the ground right now and I believe that all the money made by the PS2 is being used as a shovel to dig it out. It's not like they're still making PS2 exclusives :P

And how come no one ever mentions the M$ BS? Sony this, Sony that, but because the 360 has had a successful launch of diseased consoled no one says anything. Sounds fanboyish, but it's true.

I'm still gonna get a PS3 by the way :)

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Because everyone already knows the 360 is held together with duct tape, and sony selling off assets propping up the PS2 and ignoring any worthwhile change on the PS3 front are all signs sony is hurting.

Comment by: goodswipe (Nov 08, 2007 21:45)

lmao @ held together with duct tape...good one zippy.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Nov 08, 2007 21:56)

Originally posted by goodswipe:

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lmao @ held together with duct tape...good one zippy.

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its that or a easy break oven sadly with MS taking 2-3 years to fix the damn thing it deserves the nicknames LOL

I mean WTF why are they waiting on revision"S" to fix it?
this is assine!

Comment by: spydah (Nov 08, 2007 22:02)

Hopefully during the new year Sony will re-focus on the system its self and push games out for it thats the biggest hurdle. If they can over come that then its all up to marketing better to get good faith back in action with a lot of users. The price as come down so i think its more reasonable then before.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Nov 08, 2007 22:14)

Originally posted by spydah:

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Hopefully during the new year Sony will re-focus on the system its self and push games out for it thats the biggest hurdle. If they can over come that then its all up to marketing better to get good faith back in action with a lot of users. The price as come down so i think its more reasonable then before.

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Games will come but they really need to focus on getting the deving easier so more games will come for it and lower the price of the system, they really need to just go ahead and lower the price to 390 and drop the rediclous 40GB unit alrogather.

Comment by: motautis (Nov 08, 2007 22:53)

Sony isn't doing that badly, atleast they still have decent numbers in japan. Xbox 360 is selling worse than the OG xbox there. I agree they need to promote their exclusive games better, they'll be getting quite a few, by march the 360 wont even have much of an edge in games. It just takes time, i dont think they realize how trendy america is. If your not doing good at the moment people move on to the next big thing.

Comment by: furchtlos (Nov 08, 2007 23:51)

Man, looks likes Sony is really doing crap lately. Low Ps3 sales, Introducing a new PS2 to try and gain some money, and loosing out with this. Great for Microsoft.

Comment by: scorpNZ (Nov 09, 2007 00:58)

Actually it may not be a bad thing looking back @ the PS2 on paper it's more grunty than the xbox 1 yet because MS has been working close with hardware manufacturers for years they're ahead in getting the console hardware to work more efficiently & it shows, it's the same when i look at the specs for the PS3 vs 360 so Sony going with IBM is a good move i'd be interested to see what changes if any they do to new releses of the PS3 i dare say MS will also try & squeeze out a bit more performance either way it's all good for us the consumer

Comment by: DXR88 (Nov 09, 2007 01:08)

Why cant sony work more closly with 3rd party dev is it becuase its some kinda name brand honor not too. it like the stubborn if they cant find out why. speaking of honor i was at school today and i had the honor of trying too programme for an IBM cell proccesor.
ON my american disgruntled honor there is a world differnce between the motorola chip the ps2 used and the cell based on on the ps3.

Legend Motorola chip + Emotion chip = Ps2

Comment by: spydah (Nov 09, 2007 01:55)

I think they are doing half ok. The 40gig version is fine for now. After xmas would be best to drop it then for the after xmas shoppers. That should help the sales because all the people that couldnt get systems at xmas will have their chance to make up for it which tends to happen a lot. The 80 gig should be dropped to around that point.

Comment by: vinny13 (Nov 09, 2007 03:23)

Damn. Everybody always complains about the price, even after a good $100 drop after 8 months or so(a $200 drop here). Where the hell are they supposed to make the money to support the thing(besides the PS2 of course)?

Comment by: sciascia (Nov 09, 2007 04:15)

Well the idea would be to open out at a competitive price, even if you have to eat a little cash for now, eventually, after the console has been selling well the price to produce the components i.e. BD diode, cell, etc. and you'll start to lose less money.

Comment by: Narutodbz (Nov 10, 2007 17:03)

i don't want Sony to get out of the gaming buisness for sure and this is not very convincing that they will because it says that they are considering and plus this year isn't a great year for the ps3 but wait till next year all the good games for ps3 will come e.g. mgs4, litle big planet and killzone 2 etc. I'm confident by the ned of next year SOny will at least tie or close to tie 360

Comment by: plazma247 (Nov 10, 2007 17:30)

I think the announcement that new chips for ibm and intel are going to destroy the cell chip, they spent lots of money making it :(

I would just like to point out pre cell cpu intel and amd were dragging their feet a little.... Post cell cpu we now have some monster chips on the way.

So thankyou sony, although it may look like the only place your going to find a cell cpu will still mostly be the ps3 it has forced the rest into a whirlwind of improvements :)

Comment by: ruye (Nov 12, 2007 00:49)

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Comment by: scorpNZ (Nov 12, 2007 01:08)

Originally posted by ruye:

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YouTubeRobot.com today announces YouTube Robot 2.0, a tool that enables you to download video from YouTube.com onto your PC, convert flv files to various video formats to watch it when you are on the road on mobile devices like mobile phone, iPod, iPhone, Pocket PC, PSP, or Zune.Product page:youtuberobot.com
Direct download link: youtuberobot.com/download/utuberobot.exe
Company web-site: youtuberobot.com
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looks good except there's no contact phone number & no business address without those it's a fly by nighter unless cnet,pcworld or some other well known crowd can vouch for them,besides why pay for that type of software when there's free software that does the same

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Nov 12, 2007 01:09)

Quote:

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Originally posted by ruye:

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YouTubeRobot.com today announces YouTube Robot 2.0, a tool that enables you to download video from YouTube.com onto your PC, convert flv files to various video formats to watch it when you are on the road on mobile devices like mobile phone, iPod, iPhone, Pocket PC, PSP, or Zune.Product page:youtuberobot.com
Direct download link: youtuberobot.com/download/utuberobot.exe
Company web-site: youtuberobot.com
E-mail: support@youtuberobot.com

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looks good except there's no contact phone number & no business address without those it's a fly by nighter unless cnet,pcworld or some other well known crowd can vouch for them,besides why pay for that type of software when there's free software that does the same

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dun feed the spam bot :P

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Comment by: borhan9 (Nov 27, 2007 20:26)

You neva know this may improve the sony playstation product ten fold people should see this as a move in the right direction.