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Comment by: ChromeMud (Jun 11, 2007 10:36)

I think I'm one of the lucky few million that are happy with the 360.
I tried to kill mine from new with a 24 hour burn in with the fans going full bore with a few games but it wouldn't die.
I decided then that mine was a good 'un and have played it since launch,streamed music/videos from the PC and watched DVD's on it
too.My friends have 360's too and they havn't had problems either.

It's a shame that people who bought faulty 360's were unlucky when they got a faulty replacement.I would of given
up too after that.Microsoft could of doubled their market-share
if they had better quality control but they fu##ed up there.
In terms of it's technical architecture and software support,it's
really good and many developers seem to like it.
It's online system is great and yakking with friends whilst playing
a game is a standard feature that I wouldn't be without.

I hope Microsoft learns from it's mistake with overheating issues.
I remember the first Xbox being reliable so I don't think they tested
the 360 enough this time.Rushed production to get it to market first
has definitely damaged their brand image and I can't imagine the
damage it has caused to it's revenue.
Consumers will be very wise to any future products,be it their next
console or what ever.The wound is deep and will take a long time
to heal but a scar will always remain.

Comment by: NexGen76 (Jun 11, 2007 13:13)

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You are aware that Metal Gear 4 is coming to 360 as well right? I'll have to find the article...

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Thats only a rumor again that was once shot down.But nothing has be confirmed as of yet.

Comment by: justme81 (Jun 11, 2007 14:21)

Apple's games console was Apple Pippin. Found on wiki

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 11, 2007 15:51)

shot down
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option...d=5931&Itemid=2


however for the core its still reasonable.

Comment by: hughjars (Jun 11, 2007 17:55)

I suspect it's little more than a matter of timing zippy.

Comment by: diableria (Jun 15, 2007 13:20)

with that price whod wanna buy a crappy wii, probably little kids and teen girls

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 15, 2007 19:16)

Originally posted by hughjars:

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I suspect it's little more than a matter of timing zippy.

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Mmmmm my bet is Xmas a price lowering will come,it might only be 50 but its a start.



diableria
Mmmmm Wii fail? how cute when the competition is a 600$ "interactive" movie player and the heat failing 360 that despite its hardware issues is a simi decent console.

I'll take the WII and Metroid prime 3 over a dead 360 GoW and Haklo 3.

Comment by: Adam_16 (Jul 17, 2007 13:54)

Originally posted by ChromeMud:

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I think I'm one of the lucky few million that are happy with the 360.
I tried to kill mine from new with a 24 hour burn in with the fans going full bore with a few games but it wouldn't die.
I decided then that mine was a good 'un and have played it since launch,streamed music/videos from the PC and watched DVD's on it
too.My friends have 360's too and they havn't had problems either.

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That is excactly the same as me i also have a good xbox, had it since launch, play on it all the time, stream music, vids through it etc, LOOK AFTER IT unlike all u noobs tht dnt giv a dam and mine is workin perfectly fine no problems what so ever, and also my freinds tht have an xbox all are workin correctly.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 17, 2007 15:51)

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Originally posted by ChromeMud:

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I think I'm one of the lucky few million that are happy with the 360.
I tried to kill mine from new with a 24 hour burn in with the fans going full bore with a few games but it wouldn't die.
I decided then that mine was a good 'un and have played it since launch,streamed music/videos from the PC and watched DVD's on it
too.My friends have 360's too and they havn't had problems either.

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That is excactly the same as me i also have a good xbox, had it since launch, play on it all the time, stream music, vids through it etc, LOOK AFTER IT unlike all u noobs tht dnt giv a dam and mine is workin perfectly fine no problems what so ever, and also my freinds tht have an xbox all are workin correctly.

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...ya....and thos that did take care of theirs but had to have 2 or more replaced...ya..MS is great...its like with the DREs some had them some did not, don't be a noob and say its not faulty design than in the end damaged them.

Comment by: ChromeMud (Jul 18, 2007 11:44)

@ ZIppyDSM
All I'll say is that some people do cause their 360's to overheat from ill-placement but there are definitely dodgy 360's out there
that will overheat no matter what you do due to poor build quality.
I presume most of these to be launch consoles but now everyone's got
3 years warranty people can sleep a little easier at night.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 18, 2007 12:05)

Originally posted by ChromeMud:

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@ ZIppyDSM
All I'll say is that some people do cause their 360's to overheat from ill-placement but there are definitely dodgy 360's out there
that will overheat no matter what you do due to poor build quality.
I presume most of these to be launch consoles but now everyone's got
3 years warranty people can sleep a little easier at night.

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How many millions world wide the first 10 months?
now take thos and repair them for 2 years while adding millions more and you have today,its a mess.

And the worst console design yet,or has another one had a fail rate of above 10%?

FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 18, 2007 12:08)

Originally posted by ChromeMud:

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@ ZIppyDSM
All I'll say is that some people do cause their 360's to overheat from ill-placement but there are definitely dodgy 360's out there
that will overheat no matter what you do due to poor build quality.
I presume most of these to be launch consoles but now everyone's got
3 years warranty people can sleep a little easier at night.

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How many millions world wide the first 10 months?
now take thos and repair them for 2 years while adding millions more and you have today,its a mess.

And the worst console design yet,or has another one had a fail rate of above 10%?

FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A.

Comment by: ChromeMud (Jul 18, 2007 12:44)

Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:

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How many millions world wide the first 10 months?
now take thos and repair them for 2 years while adding millions more and you have today,its a mess.

And the worst console design yet,or has another one had a fail rate of above 10%?

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Microsoft are spending a billion for their mistake.What else can they do?Atleast they are doing something about it now.If this still upsets people then that's fine,jump ship but for me I'd rather Jump in...

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 18, 2007 13:03)

Originally posted by ChromeMud:

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Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:

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How many millions world wide the first 10 months?
now take thos and repair them for 2 years while adding millions more and you have today,its a mess.

And the worst console design yet,or has another one had a fail rate of above 10%?

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Microsoft are spending a billion for their mistake.What else can they do?Atleast they are doing something about it now.If this still upsets people then that's fine,jump ship but for me I'd rather Jump in...

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MS has started to go out of their way on this,and thats why I like them a bit more than sony who's tryign so hard to udnerstand the consumer and adjust the PS3 to fit what they want it to be and still sale...sony is giving me a headache,MS is improving,the best thing thye could do is offer new 65chiped 360s to past users but I think they can only afford to cycle the older units out over time.

I still like nintendo more.

FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A.

Comment by: eric2728 (Jul 18, 2007 15:44)

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Originally posted by ChromeMud:

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Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:

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How many millions world wide the first 10 months?
now take thos and repair them for 2 years while adding millions more and you have today,its a mess.

And the worst console design yet,or has another one had a fail rate of above 10%?

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Microsoft are spending a billion for their mistake.What else can they do?Atleast they are doing something about it now.If this still upsets people then that's fine,jump ship but for me I'd rather Jump in...

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MS has started to go out of their way on this,and thats why I like them a bit more than sony who's tryign so hard to udnerstand the consumer and adjust the PS3 to fit what they want it to be and still sale...sony is giving me a headache,MS is improving,the best thing thye could do is offer new 65chiped 360s to past users but I think they can only afford to cycle the older units out over time.

I still like nintendo more.

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does it matter for Bill gates he has 40 billion bucks i calculated that if you put a billion in the bank just the interst would be enough

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 18, 2007 15:53)

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Originally posted by ChromeMud:

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Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:

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How many millions world wide the first 10 months?
now take thos and repair them for 2 years while adding millions more and you have today,its a mess.

And the worst console design yet,or has another one had a fail rate of above 10%?

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Microsoft are spending a billion for their mistake.What else can they do?Atleast they are doing something about it now.If this still upsets people then that's fine,jump ship but for me I'd rather Jump in...

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like sony loseign 2 or 3 billion or tiwce as much on the PS3 they made 10 billion alone from spider man 3 so the losses for sony are merely part of organizing the brand.
MS has started to go out of their way on this,and thats why I like them a bit more than sony who's tryign so hard to udnerstand the consumer and adjust the PS3 to fit what they want it to be and still sale...sony is giving me a headache,MS is improving,the best thing thye could do is offer new 65chiped 360s to past users but I think they can only afford to cycle the older units out over time.

I still like nintendo more.

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does it matter for Bill gates he has 40 billion bucks i calculated that if you put a billion in the bank just the interst would be enough

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Comment by: Riotard (Jul 18, 2007 18:20)

For Soem reason people have this amzing amoutn of tiem to slate the 360 for overheating, fair enough if u;ve actually got a 360 and its screwed up! YET a 360 or a ps£ YOUR CHOISE! GUESS WHICH one most ppl would pick a 360! its got the games, it sidiots going stupid things liek not cleanign their 360's and not dusting where they keep it. I am a proud launch consol holder, no crashes, and its done 24hours with Gears Of War and music streaming! Its all fine! People don't worry tehre is 3 years for 360 anyway, and the games are great!

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 18, 2007 18:28)

Originally posted by Riotard:

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For Soem reason people have this amzing amoutn of tiem to slate the 360 for overheating, fair enough if u;ve actually got a 360 and its screwed up! YET a 360 or a ps£ YOUR CHOISE! GUESS WHICH one most ppl would pick a 360! its got the games, it sidiots going stupid things liek not cleanign their 360's and not dusting where they keep it. I am a proud launch consol holder, no crashes, and its done 24hours with Gears Of War and music streaming! Its all fine! People don't worry tehre is 3 years for 360 anyway, and the games are great!

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pretty much despite the problems most people are happy with the 360,I am not a fan of it or the Xbox but frankly they have made their mark and they both are worth while systems, the PS3 is being slogged down by its price and sonys unwillingness to do something reasonable about it.

Comment by: Zippy84 (Jul 18, 2007 18:55)

I hate to flame people but this needs it...

Originally posted by Wylee:

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ps3 has linux???? in what way?

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Originally posted by Wylee:

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just a comment..if m$ can make a console then so shud linux :p imagine that

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Originally posted by Wylee:

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i wonder tho, why dont they jus mod the consoles (without having anything to do with piracy) and sell them for more...i modded my xbox, and all the vids i have and music and stuff on my pc i can stream to my xbox, or lyke i can use internet on my xbox, or copy game discs to hdd so instead worry about scratching a cd i know i have the files to back it up, tell me if im wrong but isnt that smart? to mod the console and sell it for more?

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Dude, what the hell do any of these have to do with a $199 price point for the xbox 360???? And you must be high to think they would actually release console already modded. The 360 can already stream music and video (albeit limited formats). Why would they sell a console that could rip games to itself. THEY WOULDNT SELL ANY GAMES! Think before you post.... dumbass

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 18, 2007 19:12)

Zippy84
Get your sig down to 4 lines before a mod nukes you, and now I respond to all the silly quotes
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Q:ps3 has linux
A:yes dear and not only 1 linux either
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3#Operating_System
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/8118.cfm
Why linux? its not fat'n'sexy like XP in fact tis sleek and stable and fast and not made by MS,if it was every other hacker on the planet would be screwing it over(because its a MS OS).
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Q:just a comment..if m$ can make a console then so shud linux :p imagine that
A:linux is a open source OS its not a "company" at least not in the normal sense.
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Q:i wonder tho, why dont they jus mod the consoles (without having anything to do with piracy) con;
A:well sony want to move to streaming gaming for the PS4 or 5,but the main reason company's prevent copying is because to many people would copy them and not buy them.
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Q:Dude, what the hell do any of these have to do with a $199 price point for the xbox 360???? con;
A:calmness friend, releasing anger on noobs will gain you anger from mods,and their fire is much much more...uumm.....firey?
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FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A.

Comment by: maryjayne (Jul 19, 2007 10:03)

If the price were to hit $199, then I would buy one.

Comment by: liveye (Jul 20, 2007 03:53)

WoW~
I'd buy one if the price dropped that low!

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 20, 2007 11:04)

Originally posted by liveye:

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WoW~
I'd buy one if the price dropped that low!

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with the fail rate still alive and kicking even at 200 I would not....

FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A.

Comment by: ChromeMud (Jul 22, 2007 08:24)

I remember the PS2 wasn't all that reliable but it didn't stop it being a success.Software made it what it is,not the hardware.I had friends who bought more than one PS2 because of read errors/laser problems.They grumbled about it,internet forums talked about it but it was just a mere storm in a teacup.
The PS2 became very cheap to buy,it's games library became absolutely
huge and over saturated which drove game prices to new lows which benefited the consumer even more.So why can't the 360 follow this route?A cheaper price,3 year warranty,growing developer support with good games.What's stopping it from taking at least a third of the market?It doesn't have to take near the whole market like Sony did with the PS2.A cheaper price for the 360 will make a difference to the masses,just not to you ZippyDSM.

Comment by: Adam_16 (Jul 22, 2007 15:25)

Originally posted by ChromeMud:

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I remember the PS2 wasn't all that reliable but it didn't stop it being a success.Software made it what it is,not the hardware.I had friends who bought more than one PS2 because of read errors/laser problems.They grumbled about it,internet forums talked about it but it was just a mere storm in a teacup.
The PS2 became very cheap to buy,it's games library became absolutely
huge and over saturated which drove game prices to new lows which benefited the consumer even more.So why can't the 360 follow this route?A cheaper price,3 year warranty,growing developer support with good games.What's stopping it from taking at least a third of the market?It doesn't have to take near the whole market like Sony did with the PS2.A cheaper price for the 360 will make a difference to the masses,just not to you ZippyDSM.

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That is a good point but MS wouldnt do that because they are already loosing money on the console that is why the games started at £50 theyve gone down a bit now but they still wont make them cheaper, i heard that Sony are losing money on the PS3 so at the end of the day we should be grateful that the console isnt £500-£600.