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Sony claims no one will use 100 percent of PS3

Siggy @ Dec 19, 2006 07:18 | 125 comments

Phil Harrison, Sony's President of Worldwide Studios, has made a bold statement that no game in the future will use the full capability of Playstation 3. The topic that is commonly used to brag the newest and most advanced game on the market, has been turned upside down, Harrison claims that the current generation of PS3 games use barely half of the consoles potential.

"Nobody will ever use 100 percent of its capability," said Phil Harrison in an interview on MTV, referring to firmware upgrades and diverse use of Sixaxis controller. He is also worried that the PS3 games are categorized as "video games", while Sony wants fun games with serious content, "I fervently believe that the biggest challenge we face is that our industry is referred to as 'video games,' and games are supposed to be fun. Games should deal with fear, should deal with comedy and with death. They should deal with peril, with drug offenses."

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Comment by: ssg (Jan 02, 2007 22:34)

What is the most popular console on earth? PS2. Then XBOX came out, and I bought my first console, why, because Xbox took the console industry and advanced it in a HUGE way, previous consoles lacked hard drives, descent horsepower for graphics, etc. Now we are looking at the next gen, PS3, and Xbox 360. Which is a better bang for the buck. PS3 if you look at everything it comes with. BOTH systems have crappy games right now, BUT 360 has been out a full year longer. (Exception, Gears of War - thats awesome, but thats it for 360). Resistance is very good for PS3, but thats it for PS3. 360 has Halo3, PS3 has Motorstorm (can't wait) and War Hawk. News flash, Blue Ray WILL be fully utilized, game programmers WILL use all of the processors on the CELL, and by next Christmas, all the PS3 nay-sayers will have been quieted, 2 years from now, Xbox #3 will be having its release date slated, and PS3 will be going very strong and will pretty much own the market AGAIN. I loved the original Xbox, still have it hooked up and play, but when it came to the choice of PS3 or Xbox 360, I WANTED and LIKE the fact that it supports 1080p, that it plays blue ray discs, that it plays SACD's, that it plays just about everything you can throw in it. Yes is has bugs, but guess what so did the 360, had to buy a cooling fan to prevent the darn thing from overheating after 20 minutes of PGR3. The PS3 is not even two months old. Seems like the in thing is to bash Sony right now, but I solute them, I don't mind spending $600 dollars on a game console as its FAR CHEAPER then building a pimped out Gaming PC, and when you add the $200 HD DVD to the 360, your at the same price, so ones not cheaper then the other. And Blue Ray is Bigger and thus better then HD DVD. To say no one will ever use the space on a Blue Ray DVD is also ignorant. The big thing that will hurt both the 360 and PS3 in general is the amount of money it costs to create a good video game these days, you will see much less console exclusive games, and more ports. And when you write something to work on both consoles, you create a core game, and add a couple of tweaks for each console, and wow, no one see's a great difference, can't imagine why? To me, it's console exclusive games that should be compared. Take out all the stops, and you get Gears of War for 360, an incredible example. We had to wait over a year to get that though, IT WASN'T AVAILABLE ON 360's release was it? There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that PS3 will be producing some incredible games in the future as well. Motorstorm will be a good start. I own a Xbox, a GameCube(for my kids) and a PS3. I am happy with my choices, I will miss Halo 3, and will probably go play it at my brothers house when it comes out, but that would be my only regret. And a year from now when PS3 has released more games, I fully expect to finally see these blogs quieted, and everyone drooling over the new Metal Gear Solid, or Grand Turismo 5, or KillZone (if it ever gets released). It sucks that more cool games aren't out yet, but they are coming.

Comment by: pspjunior (Jan 03, 2007 01:55)

i agree with ssg,

i was always a sony fan..go sony all the way... but when this article came to after dawn i read it and believe it or not i wasnt such a sony fan no more... cuz all the stuff i heard bout ps3 was making me say ' it cant be that bad.....' then this came and i said.. ' thats it.. it xbox 360 time' later that week i bought an xbox 360. loved it. and when i compare the fun and how enjoable the games were between the xbox and the ps2.. i gotta say that xbox did have more fun games.i bever owned an xbox but played at my cousins lots of times.halo and those other games. in my opinion i just like xbox and xbox 360 games more cuz they have lots and lots and LOTS of very good shooter type games. and those are my personal favourite. i want to hear more about the ps3 ( good stuff). cuz just give it a chance.. the xbox 360 didnt go all that well either in its first few months. but i think im sticking to my 360.. love the games!

and i was thinking about it also..look at the ps3 graphics compared to the xbox 360.. its only been two months and when u compare the same game su can see that the 360 has a LIL difference in it loooking better. but thats just the 'early days of the ps3'. lets see whta the sytem becomes and looks in a 1 year time


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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jan 03, 2007 02:21)

blah none currently show the will or leadership to return to "gaming" ,Nintendo is staying on the path however I feel that it has become blind and its games merely shadows of greater days....gaming is becoming like the movie industry where they make crap for sheeple and not gamers....




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Comment by: Apathy0 (Jan 03, 2007 06:53)

You barely noticed? That's been happening for years and will continue to happen. It takes a lot longer to develop an HD game, so less time will be dedicated to the actual gameplay. This is why many devs love the Wii and apparently Nintendos strategy is working as i've seen a lot of excitement over the Wii from "non-gamers". As far as the PS3 being "equal", take a closer look at the games and you'll see the backgrounds on PS3 games look worse than X360 games. Just one of the tactics need to use to make the PS3 appear "equal" to the 360 graphically, not to mention the blurring. The PS3 was delayed so i see R:FOM have about the same development time as GOW, don't say it looks just as good as GOW either. Nothing looks as good as GOW, even on PC.

Comment by: anubis66 (Jan 03, 2007 13:30)

im tired of this "return to gaming" crap i keep hearing about here and in other threads. i want more than games. if i just wanted a game i wouldnt buy a console, its not worth sinking the cash. if you can have more, why not? if the ps3 were games only you think it would do well? no. it wouldnt be as fun either. linux is a thrill, bluray is nice, the cell rapes any compressing in linux, the music pictures and video on the system are nice. remote play is the coolest, and web browser is nice to have. without more than just games, you play games too much and they get older faster.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jan 03, 2007 13:50)

anubis66

and I am tried of hooking my game pad up and playing "movie" in a shallow games clothing...

you want an all in one player fine but at least understand it means they don't have to work harder or better on "games" anymore.

Oh please the PS3 barely runs better than the 360,why? because they had some time to polish up the system before launch unlike the 360 witch was just launched fell back to the ground and then bee trying get it fuly off the ground since, in other year you wont be able to tell them apart on normal TVs.

now in 010 thats when coding should be simi mastered then we wil see the real diffrance in them but even then tis only going to be a bit of graphics no where near the diff in PS2 and Xbx so in the end they are the same but different,the PS3 should out shine them all because of the dev support for the PS2,its easy math whoever has the most games wins everythign else comes 2nd.

Comment by: anubis66 (Jan 03, 2007 16:27)

and you remember, just because there is more doesnt mean they will pay any less attention to a certain catagory, especially games.

Comment by: sdifox (Jan 03, 2007 18:09)

I actually don't have any problem with the statement that no one will use 100% of PSX3. It will freeze up before that 100%.


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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jan 03, 2007 19:48)

anubis66

I try,but looking at current games that are low on qaultiy and game control,looking at the future....I see a bleak and bland gaming future thats to the hollywood style of gaming everyone is gunning after.

but it seems I am the only one to doubt where things are headed....

Comment by: anubis66 (Jan 03, 2007 23:44)

well i for one am loving blazing angels, the sixaxis owns. the ps3 is like a st bernard, it will grow slow be be a great being in time.

Comment by: Apathy0 (Jan 04, 2007 08:09)

Well sorry for just wanting a-even though the corporations will force formats down our throats to make more money-GAME CONSOLE. I have a separate computer for linux and as for Blu-ray, sure it's nice, but it won't be necessary for gaming once they get new compression techniques down. If it wins, then good for you, but Sony has brought us the likes of Mini-disc, UMD, Betamax.....Will you pay $1000 for the PS4 because it cooks your breakfast, washed your car and walks the dog for you? :P

Comment by: anubis66 (Jan 04, 2007 14:21)

Quote:
Well sorry for just wanting a-even though the corporations will force formats down our throats to make more money-GAME CONSOLE. I have a separate computer for linux and as for Blu-ray, sure it's nice, but it won't be necessary for gaming once they get new compression techniques down. If it wins, then good for you, but Sony has brought us the likes of Mini-disc, UMD, Betamax.....Will you pay $1000 for the PS4 because it cooks your breakfast, washed your car and walks the dog for you? :P

betamax was 92835 times better than vhs (random number). it was smaller and more durable, but vhs had more money behind it. minidisc is definatly not a bad tech, but it was limited in its universal use. umd same thing as md. and yes i would pay a grand for something to do all that for me and play games and movies aswell as browse the net. consoles are getting to the point the are bargain 'roids machines, so all you need is the latest console to have a pc.

Comment by: hade (Jan 05, 2007 02:11)

Originally posted by Apathy0:
Will you pay $1000 for the PS4 because it cooks your breakfast, washed your car and walks the dog for you? :P


HELLLLL yes, but only if it picks up the dog's poooop. otherwise "NO...DEAL"

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jan 05, 2007 02:25)

Quote:
Originally posted by Apathy0:
Will you pay $1000 for the PS4 because it cooks your breakfast, washed your car and walks the dog for you? :P


HELLLLL yes, but only if it picks up the dog's poooop. otherwise "NO...DEAL"


So we wil have persacomps by then to "dress" and "play" with,altho its about time they made "usable" androids :3




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Comment by: norfolk (Jan 06, 2007 02:44)

you idiots really do not have a shadow of a clue about the ps3 and its true power don't you find it sort of embarassing that the weak60 is already maxed out after only a year yes it has i really honestly feel so sorry for you wanna be tech specialists you dont understand the hardware design of the ps3 in any way but you keep using your last gen knowledge to try to decipher a truely next gen system you minds are only subpar at most you have no idea what your talking about first of weak60 is nowhere near the ps3 in any way wanna know why because the ps3 is a supercomputer and do you wanna know what supercomputers do they are the machines behind these movies such as the incredibles, madagascar, toy story, final fantasy, cars and even those movies that will have those computer generated dragons, and creatures that dont really exist but look incredibly close to real they also render movies such as the day after tomorrow i know your minds are to weak just as weak as weak180 in comparison to the sheer unparalleled magnitude of the sony playstation 3 super computer and i know even after this post of the truth someone else will try to come up with their lame explanation of why your little miniscule minds believe that the weak180 is even at the shadow of the bondary of the sony ps3 and its true power many of you are saying that the ps3 had shown some fake trailers at e3 05 yes you may be right but then again maybe not those games shown were tech demoes done to the ps3 spec and wonna know one more bumber the graphic chip wasn't even complete at the time of e3 05 and one more bumber even with the incomplete system they were only harnessing 70% of the ps3's power that is extremely scary considering no one will ever use 100% of the ps3's power thats if there is a 100% now many of you poor idiots are so bent on just judging these launch titles as oppossed to the full power of the system you idiots dont even understand that whereas the weak180 is very very close to its limit if not exceeded its limit ps3 is doing its warm-up excercise ill show you idiots just how foolish you are why do you think that microsoft released gears of war right around the time of the ps3 launch gate ill tell you why gears of war was microsofts graphical trump card oh its very much common sense micrfosoft planned this release for a long while they knew the game exceeded what the weak60 was capable of but they knew the ps3 is 2X + powerful as the weak180 and they were doomed if they didnt try to battle the ps3's starting graphics with there best graphics you see microsoft is sort of smart and sort of stupid kinda like you people they released the game at the launch of the ps3 because they knew developers werent going to be able to make that level of graphics at the launch of the ps3 so that was microsofts opportunity to release this gears of war but you boys didnt notice that im no tech but yet i figured that out reason 2 why bill gates even stated,"this game is what the system is built for" in other words thats all the system is able to withstand you know the weak180 may be able to match the ps3 if you had 2 weak180's + something else and here is another scary fact sony said the finalized ps3 hardware was more powerful than expected another bummer guerilla games confirmed killzone 2 is already in developement and some elements already exceed the trailer and you that say that the weak60's current games look better than on the ps3 your far from correct because develpopes say that every game done for the ps3 is only possible on the ps3 because its a supercomputer developers could easily at this point and time stop what they are doing with the ps3 just trying to get the physic power out of the system not so much as to scratch the graphic power im so tired of you idiots saying that the graphic processor in the weak180 being superior to the ps3's your so far from right that im sorry for you you see the ps3's graphic chip had to be compatible supercomputer hardware in order for the system to be able to render the true photrealistic graphics that you will be seeing in the very near future plus do youo really beleive that aftr all the trash talk last time about the graphics and the inferiority i would highly doubt that sony would make the same mistake this time around thats why there was 6 years of planning and testing that the ps3 had to go through to insure the ps3 would succeed geniouses are the ones that made this gaming console/supercomputer which weak180 unforunately the weak180 is not not by a long shot when you say that the ps3 and weak180 is equal you must mean the 360 that is comming out in 2010 yeah thats right not the weak180 thats currently out 2005-2010 i said all that to say this stop dreaming that the weak180 is magically more powerfull or equally as powerfull or almost as powerfull because in all reality its leaps and bounds behind the ps3 microsoft knows it they've already sucked it up why cant you all just suck it up as well wake up from this dream the 180 is so last year its not next gen its sorta middle gen and wii is post gen ps3 will be the only one to endure the entire 2006-2010 + believe that no doubt about it 180 is alread all washed up don't expect any improvements over gears of war you'll surely be highly dissapointed enough said but i still know after this post some 100 or 1000's more weak180 fans will come and post on the same subject with more trash and one question why do all you 180 fans come visit ps3 sites so much anyway is your system really that washed up if so please do enjoy 180's little shine time cause it will be small because i guarantee you won't be comming over once sonys system warps past the 180 we will see less and less of you and you wont have anything to say now here is the last part of my post you microsoft fans are the source of the foreshadowed weak180's defeat you post so many comments and talk a whole lot of trash that microsoft will not be able to follow through with on the 180 you see people are surely visiting these sites and reading your posts and you have set a very high bar for the 180 which is maxed out and some more and saying so much that the ps3 cant do but when the time comes and the 180 cant deliver what you said it could and i know microsoft is shaking in its boots because they know that none of what you are saying is anywhere near a reality it may sorta seem like it now but its only been what 2 months please ill give it at the most 5 more months and watch you'll be regretting what you have stated guaranteed and when sony comes through and tells you i told you so that the ps3 will deliver you will be crying because the graphics will even exceed way past even killzone 2 on the ps3 there will be nothing else left for you to say end of discussion at that time i think it would only be fair to pay 180 sites a visit and tell you why the next gen doesn't start until sony said and we will get on your nerves just as you have done to us but it will be the truth not guesses or your wanna be tech analysis you really believe you know everything last gen things dont serve the same as the true next gen youd do well to remember that i will be the first to say i told you so. thanks for your time oh and wait why do you weak180 fans keep still insisting that the ps3 and the weak180 are anywhere near equal let me show you PS3 supercomputer 218 tflops movie making past photrealistic grapic capabilities>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>weakbox180 1 tflop gears of war and thats the max no further git a clue the first release games on the ps3 look either as good or better than the current games and games to come on the weakbox180 ps3 is going to ball the weakbox180 up and throw it in storage. love you and no hard feelings oh and what developers have you heard say that the ps3 and the weakbox180 are equal either thats just something to get in our heads that thats true or thats just paid people that were told to tell you that to suck you outta gettin that good old ps3 let me ask you if the ps3 and weakbox180 are equal then why are the graphics as good as weakbox180 and developers say that they do not even understand the hardware its very much impossible and secondly why do ports that come from the weakbox180 look either as good or better than the original ill tell you why ps3 is like Goku ss4 and weakbox180 is like bebi without vegeta and EA games is only using well under half of the ps3's power if EA really wanted to they could release a whole noter type of football game for the ps3 that would be completely real life mud, dirt, blood, bones breaking, individual hairs, facial hair, muscle definition, every aspect of the eyes, true facial expressions, breathing, every aspect of the face such as moles, bumps, wrinkles, sleepy stuf, tears, real sweat not like the sortta real sweat being rendered now, veins, nuckle definition, stains, fingerprints, pores, wounds, damage to any part of the body as in real life and so much more because the ps3 is a supercomputer and this is not just for football games its for every genre while you all are saying killzone isnt possible it is very possible but you had better get ready because for the ps3 thats just the tip of the ice burg. BE AFRAID BE VERY AFRAID. this is the truth yes the truth that these puny weakbox180 fans are trying to mask by giving you little subpar understanding of last gen standards of tech specs to try to make you truely think that these to consoles well at least one of them are consoles are really on the same level if your all dumb enough to believe them and any dumb developer that would like to follow behind them and anyone else go ahead but the true knowledge and understanding can only be done by real next gen minds not americans the japanese there the geniouses so they know dont let you faith be wavered by these would be trash talkers they are making claims that will never come to past. just believe.

Comment by: Andrew691 (Jan 06, 2007 03:07)

thats gotta be the biggest sentence/piece of BS I've ever seen.

I seriously look forward to all the replies that it will get, who will be the first to crap on this noobs stupid statements? Or which lucky mod will have the pleasure of banning him?


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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jan 06, 2007 03:14)

norfolk
I dont even know why I am bothering...but the PS3 is not faster or more powerful than the 360,if it was the lunix benchmarks would have already shown it,the short of it is the PS3 is about the same as the 360 you might have "better" loading times on the PS3 and the PS3 "might" have more processing power for physic's when they get coding down,the 360 is built for brute power despite begin built "oddly" and the PS3 is built oddly around speed all in all its a even match in terms of power,it wil remain "even" for at least 3 years while codeing matures for each system. even in 5 years time I see the PS3 only being able to do more with physics graphically they will look the same to the common no HDTV gamer.

Sonys hype has failed frankly so has MS's reality bites and so do both systems,move on already...

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Comment by: anubis66 (Jan 06, 2007 04:40)

someone needs to make a console that just does not care about cost. one where the gpu diserves the name geforce 8950, the ram is 1 gig, the gpu ram is 1 gig, and processor is dual core amd 3.4ghz 45nm. price it at 1400 and im sure it would sell great amonst those with money. it could be the highest of high end consoles. the ps3 is positioning itself there, but in n such way this system i describe could do. nintendo aims low, far low, so why doesnt someone aim far high?


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Comment by: Andrew691 (Jan 06, 2007 05:11)

Originally posted by anubis66:
someone needs to make a console that just does not care about cost. one where the gpu diserves the name geforce 8950, the ram is 1 gig, the gpu ram is 1 gig, and processor is dual core amd 3.4ghz 45nm. price it at 1400 and im sure it would sell great amonst those with money. it could be the highest of high end consoles. the ps3 is positioning itself there, but in n such way this system i describe could do. nintendo aims low, far low, so why doesnt someone aim far high?

Heck why not chuck one of them new Intel Quad Core processors in it (laptop ones run at about 2.3ghz not sure about desktops), it would still sell very quickly. They need to build a gaming system that follows the same kind of architecture that a PC has but make it more gaming oriented without hardware updates so it keeps with the whole console theme, kindof what the PS3 is getting at but to a larger scale. Then i would be more inclined to buy it, even if it had a huge price tag.


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Comment by: ddp (Jan 06, 2007 13:03)

norfolk, lightning struck!!!

everybody else, do you want dumdum's post left as is or edit out?

Comment by: DarkMods (Jan 07, 2007 01:22)

norfolk, you are a r3tard

you dont need to type a super long sentence about things that arent even true
I think the PS3 is the worst console EVER!!!!!
The PS2 is even better than the PS3 ,,even though I hate all the Playstations

Comment by: leeman71 (Apr 01, 2007 11:51)

ps2 is better than ps3, wot a noob

ps3 for me simply because ive had the 1st xbox and noticed loads of great games what came out for the ps2 not available for the xbox.
The shops had almost double the amount of ps2 titles over the xbox having also the eyetoy with lots of games for the kids.
formula 1 for the ps3 is the best f1 game i've ever played on which isnt available on the xbox360. I know there will be some games for the 360 not available for the ps3 but f1 is a top title which should be made on all consoles. The ps3 will without doubt again have a bigger and better choice over games like it did with the ps2 over the xbox.. We all have our own reasons for which we like the best which is good and should stick with that, but don't slag the ps3 off as many are who have already bought the 360 and are just doing it simply for that reason not having a clue how good the ps3 actually is, ya just have to look in all ya local ad-mags to see just how many people are trying to sell there xbox360's to get there hands on a ps3... Ya know it makes sense lol.... End of day ps3 or 360 are both good consoles and both have good points about them, i've simply gone for ps3 cos of titles like formula 1 and other titles im looking forward to which i know arnt coming out on the 360, which are the games i like to play.......

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Apr 01, 2007 13:26)

leeman71
maybe because the PS2 has I dunno 4X as many games for it than the Xbox?
the PS3 is to costly and has not games I know people selling off their PS3 most of the time at a 100$ loss,the PS3 dose have the better hardware but the games are far from catching up to it.

I say get a WII MS cant seem to fix the 360 right :P
*L*
come on MS fix the 360 already >>

oh well I will have all the systems in acouple years lower prices and allot of games :3

Comment by: leeman71 (Apr 01, 2007 14:01)

Yeah i agree that the ps3 is costly if ya only wanting it for just gaming, it's like anything else ya buy after a couple of months the prices soon drop. I bought a SLI geforce 7950 nvidia 1gb memory graphics card for my pc costing over £500... i did this so i could play all the up coming pc games in top spec. I've had the card about 7 months now and the only games that i play on it are cod3, bf 2142,test drive unlimited and now stalker, hardly any games have come out for the pc to show this cards power,and to top it of they have now got the 8800 directx 10 cards out which is more money to pay out when the dx10 games start to come out. So the ps3 doesnt look to expensive to me when ya look at how much it costs to keep upgrading ya pc to play the latest games which only bring out so many good games before you have to upgrade again lol.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Apr 01, 2007 14:55)

leeman71
I do allot on the computer so I want to keep it simi up to date would rather spend 600 on it now and then get a PS3 for 400 in acouple years :P

I am glad I put off the 360.....wont be till fall before they fix the SOB >>

   

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