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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Oct 25, 2006 22:42)

CiDaemon

yes no and mabye

the PS3 has power bu it lacks economic foresight the PS3 low end is 100 above reason the high end dosent realy matter,the PS3 has untested hardware but easily twice as powerful as the 360 but being 2X-3X the price will hurt it.

the free online is nice but I wish sony would have a more stable pay version.

Dont get e wrong I find more thigns wrong with the 360 but Sony has jsut killed all my inrest in the ps3 I dont even want to keep up with its info anymore they are trying to make it illiage to import hardware thru regions and tis only a matter of tiem befor they do it to music video and games...

Comment by: dude051 (Oct 27, 2006 14:05)

ZIppyDSM: "if anything HDMI is part of hollywoods protection scheme and is "un needed"......

it seems there is no real diffrance in analog High def and DIgital High def yet."

Hmm, that isn't 1005 true. Analog and digital High Def are like night and day, starting with the medium from which they run on. Analog for instance is sent over component cables, and can only reach 1080i. Also, things such as general noise, color, cable quality and connector quality (say from source to TV/monitor) are all huge factors in an analog signal. Digital on the other hand is sent over the HDMI or DVI interface, which supports full resolution 1080p. And unlike analog, digital is not effected by outside interferience, connectors ect. It's all bits, 0 or 1, and so the signal is not changed from beginning to end. Cable quality's only factor here is the reliance of the bits that are delivered, but thats about it.

As for hollywood's part in HDMI/DVI, only HDCP is what they have infected with. The original specs have no protection like that what so ever, and it remains to be seen how long HDCP might actually last.

Comment by: dude051 (Oct 27, 2006 14:09)

Sorry, someone just told me there are component cables that do 1080p, still though, no reason in my opinion to use analog cables for a 1080p picture, esp if you want the best possible.

Also to note, unless they change it, the 360's rear interface is 100% analog and will never handle a digital signal. Unless they add an hdmi port, its worthless to have a universal dongle like that... hence why now they only support 1080i at the most.

Comment by: anubis66 (Oct 27, 2006 15:12)

1080p for analog will only remain active for movies till around 2010-2012. games will stil do it though, but without all 360's having 1080p ability almost all devs may not develope for it.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Oct 27, 2006 17:50)

anubis66

the mroe I ehar about the 360 and the little thigns it missed it gives me more a headache....WTF was MS even awake when they put this thing together? 0-o

Comment by: UHALL (Oct 27, 2006 21:09)

anubis66 still bashing something you don't own and talking up something that nobody owns. You have to much time on your hands.

Comment by: WierdName (Oct 29, 2006 22:01)

Free IS free! For all the "non-lag" and extras that live offers, you have to pay through the nose every month! After you buy a game, its stupid to have to pay for online subscription especially when they advertise "Online" on the game. If there was a chose to use the no lag and free servers, that would be fine. But you cant expect someone to pay for a subscription for online after buying a game for online.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Oct 29, 2006 22:13)

Unlike the Xbx and the PS2 days I think sony has delt with some of the old PS2 lag issues in any case MS will have to change their service as long as the SOnys online setup is fast and stable.

Comment by: DamonDash (Oct 29, 2006 23:39)

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without all 360's having 1080p ability almost all devs may not develope for it.

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360 will only have games that are upscaled to 1080i & 1080p which is not a true signal.Far as there HD-DVD movies the highest they will get is 1080i.Why because HD-DVD will be encoded in 1080i to run through the add-on But 360 was not ever built to handle true 1080i or 1080p rez.There games are encoded in 720p but its not really true 720p because due to the fact they use a compression tool to make there game fit on a DVD-9 there games take some visual losses during the game.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Oct 30, 2006 04:08)

DamonDash

So your saying the 360 is a hog pog of technology?

:3

Most already know the 360 is a 1.5 system made for ultra basic HD gaming the WII kinda avoids it.

the PS3 is the only Console to deal with HD in a way that looks into the future.

Comment by: muccione (Nov 10, 2006 09:41)

I have a modded xbox

a stock halo 2 xbox

a modded ps2

a 360 and love it

and will get a ps3

the 360 is just a 1.5v it still uses a DVD disc 9gb per disc max space

the ps3 uses Blu-ray disc its 25gb for just 1 layer

PS3 it the best console to get if your torn between the 360 and PS3 just more space to grow

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Nov 10, 2006 09:49)

muccione

like the war in Ieaq MS has no fing idea what they are doing with the 360,it needs another year to mature to be worth getting.

the new revision hits the shelfs in a few months so thats one less thing to worry about but now they are playing with the HD.....

The PS3 is not a much better spot pre launch is looking shaky as hell,Sony has shown they will sue any importers into the ground unless you have 2 grand to burn don't go near the PS3 for a year its just bad right now...

GET WII!!!

I can not say it enough the WII has it all ,enough graphics to fight the corporate horde and enough innovation to to meet and beat them its worth every penny but if you must burn money on soemthign upgrade your PC thats what I am doing *L*

Comment by: anubis66 (Nov 10, 2006 11:57)

atleast the sony has well thought-out plans for their ps3 is going. and i dont have 2k to burn, only .8k, and i'll still be getting one with the works, two games, and another controller.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Nov 10, 2006 12:00)

anubis66

meh better off on comp and WII stuff...

Comment by: anubis66 (Nov 10, 2006 12:19)

right... the wii..

(ring, ring)

"hello?"

"its me"

"oh hey whats up?"

"i just want to play with your wii for a little bit.."

"sorry buddy i dont swing that way.."

(click)

i dont like it, the gui is bulky and ugly, almost photoshope done (like a 90's consirocy theorist site). the games arnt much and incoperate the sensing is such od ways sometimes. there issnt enought the wii can offer me to justify its price. though i bet you 85% that i'll have a wii when the price is sub-$150 or so.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Nov 10, 2006 12:56)

And the 360 witch barely can do current gen graphics dose it for you?

PS3 is not worth it right now not with all the sht Sony is puling,but if you got a G to kill got at it and tel the rest of us how bad it is :P

Comment by: anubis66 (Nov 10, 2006 13:00)

i'll be writing a crazy in depth review for you all, i promise it. i'll take pictures and tell you how the games and online work out, aswell as anything else you'll ask.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Nov 10, 2006 13:04)

anubis66

cool ^^

I dont mean to be an arse but the PS3 its to soon and to evil for and to costly for most so I warn aginist it for now :P

I warn agisnt the 360 as well 0-o *L*

Comment by: muccione (Nov 10, 2006 16:54)

My PS2 was FREE (bought 2 sold 1)

My 360 FREE (bought 5 sold 4 AND made $1500 cash)

My soon to have PS3 FREE

I plan to buy 6-10 PS3 and sell them on EBAY (profit about $6-10,000)thats my WII or WEEEEEEEEEEEE

So if it has problems it will not be a problem

just send it back to Sony for repair

I had to send back my 360 2 times I works just fine now

I just have to pay some poor co workers $100-$150 to stand in line with me

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Nov 10, 2006 17:16)

muccione

its funny I doubt that and yet I dont doubt it 0-o

Comment by: anubis66 (Nov 10, 2006 17:26)

i just doubt him getting aholf of that many ps3's unless he is a dirty retailer.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Nov 10, 2006 17:28)

anubis66

well I mean I dont doubt one could make money off them at launch.

Comment by: anubis66 (Nov 10, 2006 18:08)

well its about 1.5-2k per system made on ebay.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Nov 10, 2006 18:10)

ALmost makes me which I had credit to to get a 5G loan buy as many as I can locally then sell them off ebay for1G each with free shipping 0-o

Comment by: UHALL (Nov 10, 2006 20:17)

I wouldn't hold my breath for alot of PS3 to be released in the united states. Sony is doing the same thing MS did and using the japan market as guinea Pigs to fix all of the bugs. Its still eArly all of the bugs haven't came to the top yet. MS and SONY are not your best friends, they are out to get every red cent of your money.