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Will Wii Win?

Siggy @ Jul 18, 2006 20:18 | 125 comments

Analysts at the DFC Intelligence shocked quite a few eyepairs when it reported last month that the upcoming war of next generation consoles is half over before it even started. The San Diego-based company stated that Sony would end up last because of the high price of PlayStation 3 and leave Microsoft and Nintendo fighting for the gold.

Now DFC has released an industry briefing which continued their theme. In the briefing the company said Sony is giving up one of consoles' strengths if they'll stick with the plan of providing upgrades to the PS3. DFC was refering to Sony CEO Ken Kutaragi who implied that their next-gen console would be more like a computer than a traditional gaming console. "We believe that under Kutaragi's techno-elite PlayStation 3 strategy, the PlayStation 3 could end up with a market share more resembling Apple products as opposed to the dominant PlayStation 2 market share," stated DFC.

Further into the war, DFC will expect Xbox 360 take the hardcore video game markets and even though the start in Japan has been somewhat sticky, it might be the future market share leader aswell, while Nintendo's Wii could be taking the win with the advantage of the lowest price.

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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 26, 2006 09:02)

n0rd0s

meh the cube is inda pointless to mod,and how many years did it take them toget this far? *L*

so the Wii will be a pain to hack altho I'd gladly mod it in order to run downloadable content ...hehehehehehhee

Comment by: Thonor (Jul 26, 2006 09:57)

I agree 100% with wanting the downloadable content, and I think it will be a big selling point for the Wii. Nostalgia never goes out of style...

But that being said, some games are just plain funner on a TV with a control, so I likely will download (and likely pay for) a bunch of old Nintendo content.

Come on, everyone out there who's over 20 knows at least 5 nintendo games (either NES, SNES or N64) that they'd want to play again. Don't deny it, you ALL are waiting to play something you haven't played in years...

This is the first console in my lifetime that I'm actually following very closely, and one that I likely will buy close to the release date. I bought my Cube about 1 1/2 years after it released and the prices had dropped, but I don't know that I can wait that long with the Wii. I'm a cheap SOB too, so you know something must have tweaked my interest. You just can't argue against just a $50 increase from the Cube ($200 to $250). That's called good value my friends.

As I said, the only thing that could possibly make me even look at a PS3 would be the next GTA game being exclusive to that system. But as I said before, Rockstar isn't stupid, and that'll happen when hell freezes over.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 26, 2006 12:02)

Thonor

I would not say that,altho it is nice t not need a comp to paly it,I prefer emluation becuse it just gives you alot of options when makes the games look and soemtiems sound better,as well as load save states,altho I think N64 emluation is a bitch to run right so that might be a bit better than the 16bit stuff.

I am wanting a WII and when MP3 and Zelda TWP are out I'll tag it *L*

Comment by: sheri1983 (Jul 26, 2006 12:37)

Don't care for computer emulation EXCEPT for load save states... the only way I beat some of the games!!! I guess it is kinda nice to load up some ROMs on my laptop and go at it awhile. I have a decent/cheap USB controller with a retractable cord.

But still... console playing is best... just because it is!

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 26, 2006 12:58)

sheri1983

I have a PS2 pad on my comp love VGBA with tis speed button to get thru tidus aeras ,when emluatin runs as good as the console if not better its just better *L*

Comment by: XENON (Jul 26, 2006 18:34)

@Thonor

hmm Mario Brothers, Metroid, RC Pro-AM (NES) Super Metroid, Space Megaforce, Legend Of Zelda, Super Mario Brothers (SNES)Legend Of Zelda: Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, True Crime Streets of LA, True Crime New York City, etc etc etc.

well there's more than 5 lol!! :D

Comment by: CableX (Jul 26, 2006 22:07)

sony ps3 is not going to win the war $599+tax, xbox360 $499+tax and all of its ports going to cost alot hd drive, ps3 one unit,the wii just chep

Comment by: dmanuz (Jul 26, 2006 23:06)

I figure enough that Wii will have ALOT of childish games, but with this new technology they are going to have a LOT bigger audience and they know it, people who play war games will want a fps on wii... How cool would it be for like CoD3 on Wii? Point and shoot style... Plus, the sports games, if they come out with better ones than ' Wii Sports ' package, then it'll be sweet.

The way the controller is set up will allow for alot bigger audience to enjoy the games rather than the mundane blur of most systems, wher it is just what do you prefer? Graphics or games or a mediocre mix? (IMO graphics would be xbox, gameplay/games would be ps2, and mediocre with some drawbacks to both would be GC...note IMO, means NO FLAMING)

I too hope that wii will come out on top

Comment by: dmanuz (Jul 26, 2006 23:10)

oh and the next gta (@ thonor) will most likely come out for PC at the same time.. if not a few weeks later, so what, wait for the Pc versions, they are nearly ALWAYS better.... w/ mods and such

Comment by: megaBLS (Jul 27, 2006 01:11)

I think the Wii will come out on top. Xbox 360 and PS3 are going for the same thing. Graphics. Nintendo is not going for graphics but for a "revolution" on game playing.

I agree with the article saying PS3 will come out on bottom. The 360's graphics are very close and its cheaper. Parent's will not want to buy their kids a 600.00 system

Comment by: Thonor (Jul 27, 2006 02:03)

megaBLS - AMEN BROTHA!!

Zippy - I agree completely with the emulation. I have all the Nintendo emulators except for Cube. I just didn't know if mentioning emu on these forums would get me in trouble...

Anyway, I will still DL a bunch of older content on the Wii. Some games (007 anyone?) just look waaay better on a big screen!!

Comment by: xhardc0re (Jul 27, 2006 07:31)

Point taken Thonor.

And $ony has that covered...by convincing everyone they need Blu-ray & where else to get it for under $500? In a PS3 of course. And once someone owns a game system, they purchase games for it. Expect them to blanket the U.S. & Japan with ads about how "BLU-Ray will change your life". There will be more propaganda coming out of $ony then Washington, D.C. & Tony Blair's ass combined!


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Comment by: borhan9 (Jul 27, 2006 17:19)

After reading this article it just convinces me more that i will stick to computers cause they are flexible enough to chop and change and u dont have to deal with over priced crapp things.

Comment by: dmanuz (Jul 27, 2006 18:38)

borhan9

Nah i can't agree with that becuase it will be completely different playing with Wii or ANY console for that matter than to play on a pc... yeah a mouse and keyboard is gerat and all, but playing w/ a console is just a differen experience... Although your point is very well taken.

PS3 is just too damned expensive, that is why it will lose, just systems v systems, if the wii comes out w/ some good mature games, it will easily be on top (becuase of the revolution in gameplay) followed by ps3 then by x360... x360 doesn't really bring anything to the gaming industry, ps3 has the new Blu-ray, and hdmi support ect ect.

Comment by: xhardc0re (Jul 28, 2006 15:01)

I feel sorry for the Xcox360 users who will be stuck w/a worthless system once M$ adds an HD DVD player to the next version (in Spring 2007). Who's going to want a 360 when they can get the 360+HD DVD for about the same price?

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 28, 2006 17:05)

xhardc0re

I tohught the HD DVD was a add on.

besides t wont be worth it untill they have a nice line up of games.

Sega CD had Lunar,and shing force CD

the 32 X had shadow sqauderen...god I loved that game...pissed me off so many tiems becuse I didnt hold back on energy and by last level I was out of energy and conteniues *L*

Comment by: xhardc0re (Jul 28, 2006 20:39)

M$oft but them in a position similar to Sega. The SegaCD wasn't necessary to play Genesis games at all. But, if they had bundled it together they could reduce the overall cost. It was no mystery that Sega wanted to screw Nintendo (which was already in talks with Phillips, and later Sony which of course created the PSX from their work with Nintendo), and so they thought the SegaCD would be their trump card. It wasn't necessary to bundle, but it would have been smart. Had Nintendo succeeded in making a CD drive for their system, Sega would have been forced to bundle or build an entirely new Genesis + SegaCD.

M$oft is going to look @what $ony does and make a decision. Either keep the two units separate (which is always more cost to manufacture) or convert the two units into one. That would save them money over time. Depends on how successfuly Blu-ray movies are. If $ony is right, and people with $$$$$ start buying HDMI sets that cost like $2,000+ they will win. They make the TVs. They make the Blu-ray players. And they'll make the PS3, at an even lower cost.

Nintendo hasn't backed themselves into a corner. They have the lowest priced system, and the graphics are adequate for what they want. For now.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 29, 2006 04:06)

xhardc0re

nicely put,SO you see M$ going into harder save money mode and jsut put out the 360 with the HD DVD in it in a year or so?

kinda makes sicne,altho will the add on be vaporware I wonder.

I will admit the cube bearly clung to the number 2 spot,but the WII should reign in the 2 or 1 spot on price point alone,then add all the new innovantion .....clearly nintendo is in a win win spot for ocne sicne one of its ravils has gone insane.

Comment by: dmanuz (Jul 29, 2006 19:19)

Well put Zippy and xhardcore.....

I agree, x360 is going to be like Dreamcast. It came out too early so it will be CRUSHED.

Except dreamcast was a kickass system..

Either way, x360 will be destroyed with Wii, if Wii decides to get some good fps games or RPG games (aside from Zelda)

manuZ

btw by good fps games i dont meant the standard metroid i mean like CoD or something like that

Comment by: xhardc0re (Jul 30, 2006 03:10)

i wish 360 games were as easy to pir8 as Dreamcast. That would be really sweet :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Comment by: sheri1983 (Jul 30, 2006 08:48)

Why? So no game developers will want to make Xbxo 360 games????

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 30, 2006 08:49)

dmanuz

when I said one of its ravils went insane I ment SOny,the 360 its more or less a upgraded Xbox all in all it should do ok ut the PS3......unless all the fan boys come out of the wood works and sell body parts to buy 2 systems each its going to be hard for sony to stay anywhere near where they were.

xhardc0re

what you mean the moders ahve not decrypted the 360 discs yet? a shame :P

and whats so easy about copying DC games frist you ahve to connet it to the comp then get that working then edit the content to fit on a bloody CD 0-o

no thanks that and cube copying are off my list of thigns to try >>

Comment by: xhardc0re (Jul 31, 2006 00:25)

It was actually a joke guys, don't you know what satire means?

Here's another joke. Do you think GameCube would have been more popular if the discs would be easier to rip & burn? ;)

Comment by: Rikoshay (Jul 31, 2006 01:18)

ZIppyDSM wrote:

Quote:
...the 360 its more or less a upgraded Xbox all in all it should do ok...

Well, more or less, the Wii is an upgraded Gamecube, but it didn't slap on a $500 price tag. I'm not one to judge here, but I haven't really seen any games that have gotten passed normal Xbox graphics with the 360, just some with a higher framerate than normal. I mean, with that $500 I could buy a high-end video card, a Raptor HDD, and about 2GB of RAM for my desktop, and match, if not overpower that performance, all the while being able to do everything else that I would normally do with other appliances.


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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 31, 2006 12:27)

xhardc0re

darn it quit confueing me :P

Rikoshay

you got a point but I bet the Wii costs mroe to aesicnes its custom hardware and the 360 is sotly jerry rigged PC stuff...its freaky !

Mmmm the 360 is only 100 or so more than what it should be its not that bad but the PS3 is like WTF.


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