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Comment by: lxhotboy (May 03, 2006 08:10)

@ hotice

LOL.......yeah most people can figure that one out. But at this, the PS2, is still the best selling home video gaming console on the market. I see you constantly say things like the ps2 is old, it will be obelete and yeah it will, ONE DAY. Also, when the time comes that the ps2 is lost to people losing interest, the sony ps3 will be the system picking up the slack so what is the big deal?????

Comment by: sammorris (May 03, 2006 10:28)

Precisely, and although they don't sell N64s any more, I still play mine!

3000+, MS-6775, WD2500x2, DM+8, Muse 5.1 DVD, G90F+, T3000 2.1, MC-70, 751B, Silverline, X800Pro, Type-R 480W, GSA-4163B, SF-464T2-S

Comment by: xhardc0re (Jun 12, 2006 21:18)

...and here come the PS2 fanboys and PS2 haters...

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 12, 2006 21:32)

xhardc0re

meh wenthey crawlout of the woodwork the mods squish them like the bugs they are *L*

if tis needed I ahve soem fanboys here keep themselfs in check,me I like games thus go after the systems with themost,PS2 then GC then Xbo,I'll admit by now the Xbox has more game sI want to paly than the GC but the GC has Metroid and Zelda *L*

MEtroid is greater than Halo but Halo is more fun,I am a fps fan and see Metroid handicaped to death with thier "adventure" control shceme,its gettign bad with devs not givieng gamers full button maping choices it dose not take a genius to see that full button mapping is best but it seems it dose take one to put it in a game.......

Comment by: hot_ice (Jun 17, 2006 16:20)

The PS2 should be 99$

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 17, 2006 17:04)

And probably is, somewhere on ebay.

Comment by: hot_ice (Jun 17, 2006 18:03)

How much would you sell a PS2 console with an integrated chip? The PS2 isn't the slim one an earlier model, what would be a reasonable price of sale on ebay? Hypothetically speaking here?

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 17, 2006 18:37)

I find the best way to judge that is look at what else is on there.

Comment by: hot_ice (Jun 18, 2006 15:48)

The PS2 is pretty crappy, after a while, I have to say. 99.99$ would be a reasonable price for it.

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 18, 2006 15:54)

How is it crappy? It's not as fast as recent stuff, but it was never crap. I got bundles of fun out of mine, and I didn't even buy that many games for it. I'd sooner play it than an Xbox 360 in all honesty.

Comment by: hot_ice (Jun 18, 2006 20:40)

My quote stating "its pretty crappy" was used in the context that after a while, when you've played and finished all the games that interested you, and games stop being released on the PS2, it gets boring.

That's all, I am not one to replay classics, once I am done with them, they sit there and gather dust.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 18, 2006 20:44)

hot_ice

you might as well give up now,they dont make great all inspreing classics anymore.

Comment by: hot_ice (Jun 18, 2006 20:46)

Zippy always the pessimist.hhehehe

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 19, 2006 04:58)

Lol. No you're right, I don't play mine that much any more, and of late DVDs have been run on my PC, despite the slightly smaller screen (156 sqin versus 226 on the TV) I can interface 5.1 on the PC rather than just 2.2 on the PS2 (although these are arguably 7.1 and 4.2 because due to the cable routing setup I use, the TV speakers can play the PC and PS2 signals. The PS2 audio cable I use has both a 2Phono lead going to the hifi and a scart cable that also carries audio so the TV speakers make noise too. Since the PC is connected to the front speakers and the hifi via splitters, the PC's signal goes along the splitters and into the TV! (I couldn't work out where the noise was coming from when both the hifi and the 2.1 were off!)

Comment by: tycobb (Jun 19, 2006 05:17)

Who doesn't have a ps2,xbox,or gcn already?

If you don't I would just wait for ps3 at this point and if you don't have the cash why not opt for a wii?

The wii will be under $250

I liked the ps2 and got plenty of joy out of it.I know the price on ps3 isn't for everyone but for me I know I will get alot of use out of it.My pc was $1800 after tax, a new gfx card,and psu and I don't regret it because I get alot of use out of it :)

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 19, 2006 05:19)

Yep. That's what most of us will be doing. Wii first, then PS3 when it becomes reasonable. Alright £425 is reasonable given the production cost, but it's still expensive!

Comment by: tycobb (Jun 19, 2006 05:23)

really ps3 will come with $3000 worth of hardware.That sounds crazy but it's true.Sony will be taking a loss on each system they sell.I can provide a link if yall want.

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 19, 2006 05:27)

No, it isn't $3000 worth, it just appears like it in terms of what PCs currently offer. You would never be able to extract as much out of the cell and RSX as you could out of four dual core P4s and two 6800s in SLi.

Comment by: tycobb (Jun 19, 2006 05:32)

That's true but in fairness pc games require much more power to run the same games on consoles with less power for instance doom3 would never run on a p2 700mhz cpu on a pc but yet it did it on an xbox with those same specs and only a 64mb gfx card on xbox.

another example is emulators.We still can't emulate anything current gen on a pc without having at least twice the specs much less next gen

by the way don't forget the bluray which will be $1200 retail alone at least.

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 19, 2006 05:42)

Well, hmmm, it costs £350 or so to make tmk, so yeah that's a costly addition. PC retail drives won't quite be as much as $1200, but they will be hefty. Yeah I appreciate windows makes PC games need far better hardware (although PC game designers are going out of control making some games unplayable at certain options on any system - £200 or £4000)

Comment by: tycobb (Jun 19, 2006 05:50)

What's tmk?

heres some blu-ray prices.No better source than the blu-ray website.$1200 about average you could get one for a $1000

http://www.blu-ray.com/players/

Yeah I aggree the pc game developers are getting outta hand with the system requirements but the minimum system requirments never are enough too and that's just annoying.

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 19, 2006 05:53)

Yeah they're proper TV ones though, and DVD recorders for the TV are currently how much? A good £150 for a good one, at least. Whereas a good DVDRW drive for the PC can be had for £25 now.

Comment by: tycobb (Jun 19, 2006 06:01)

To be honest with you I don't even understand Uk prices.What's crazy is that little L lookin thing you'll put after the number isn't even on my keyboard lol.what's $1200 u.s. in pounds? Like 1500

anyways though.The pc drives are crazy priced to like $1200 and the recorder's will be outrageous.That link shows the pc drives and recorders on a different section but gives no price!

I know the pioneer pc drive is $1200 though... kinda sucks but hey they will come down like all technology.

Comment by: tycobb (Jun 19, 2006 06:08)

Dang sorry to leave ya hangin but I gotta go.Talk to you later some time on the forums and take care.See ya.

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 19, 2006 06:09)

The actual exchange rate at present is about £540 to the $1000, but with imports and VAT added, it works out at more like £670 to the $1000 for computer stuff. What's this L thing you're talking about?