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Jury rejects murderer's claim of Grand Theft Auto influence

Dela @ Aug 11, 2005 13:09 | 80 comments

A Jury in Alabama has rejected a claim by a 20 year old man who murdered three police officers and then pleaded not guilty by reason of mental defect after blaming Rockstar Games' Grand Theft Auto games for the influence behind his actions. This is just one case of many where a court exonerated a video game when a criminal alleged that he/she was influenced while playing a game. Devin Moore was 18 at the time that he committed his crimes.

He grabbed a gun from a patrolman and then proceeded to kill three police officers before escaping in a patrolman's car. Later on, he was arrested and he told officers that "life is a video game, everybody has to die sometime". This phrase was used by lawyers defending the man who claimed that his long hours spent playing Grand Theft Auto III and Grand Theft Auto: Vice City influenced him to the extent where he could be no longer be liable for his actions.

However, the Jury sided with prosecutor Lyn Durham who argued that the man was fully aware of what he was doing and that he "knew it was wrong". He could now face the death penalty for the murders. Even after the Jury's decision, families of the victims have filed civil cases against Take-Two Interactive and two major retailers. No court has ever ruled in favour of plaintiffs in these types of cases.

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Comment by: ___ (Aug 15, 2005 03:36)

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Kids have to learn to fear getting in trouble

Or make them relize that it's to their extreme disadvantage to get in trouble. If I take away my kids computer, xbox, and I don't let them watch tv or play with their freinds for a month(basically they would only be able to read and exercise) they would be pretty upset and wouldn't want it to happen again. But in that scenario they wouldn't be afraid of me they would just be mad at me(they would get over it though). I don't feel that fear is necessary to keep them from getting into trouble... I just think that it's important for them to know that it's not in their best interest and for them to regret doing whatever they did. I personally don't think it's right to inflict pain on people you love and that includes my children.

Comment by: nonoitall (Aug 15, 2005 04:08)

@___:

A spanking isn't "violence" or not "civilized". A kid will "get over" a spanking just as easily as they will get over having a priviledge taken away. Besides, using your logic, whenever you take away a toy or whatever, you're using stealing to solve the problem. When murderers get sent to prison, kidnapping is used to solve the problem. Any punishment in the world can be made to seem criminal with the right wording.

My parents spanked me many, many times. I don't hate them. I'm not afraid of them. I love them. They weren't afraid of doing what it took to get a lesson across. I've seen kids with parents that spank them and I've seen kids with parents that just give their kids a timeout or take away a toy or something. As an almost perfect rule, the ones that get spanked behave better and grow up to be more responsible adults. Punishment needs to leave a lasting impression to be effective.

Comment by: Nephilim (Aug 15, 2005 08:23)

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My parents spanked me many, many times. I don't hate them. I'm not afraid of them. I love them. They weren't afraid of doing what it took to get a lesson across.

Amen. It was the same with me.

Comment by: sui-cyco (Aug 15, 2005 10:38)

you think there is a market for a spanking service.you could hire someone to come over your house and spank your kids for you.that way your kids wont fear you.they would fear you calling the person that is gonna spank them.kinda like telling them the boogieman is gonna get them if they dont behave.that way they dont associate getting spanked with you.besides unemployment is rampant and we could use new jobs.

Comment by: mystic (Aug 15, 2005 13:17)

sad as it must be for the familys for the police officers what were they thinking if I sneeze around a cop they pull a gun maybe its the new pc police the ones who ask why or how come , not like those old ones that yell and point a gun at you and say things like hold it police or hands up or even risk firing that one Barney bullet ( maybe we send their bullets to iraq ) sad they tried to blame a video game why not blame a shitty game like drug wars 2 or wolfinstine or something like that GTA has gotten over the hot coffee issue and now more free plubisity for Rockstar makes you think that the next GTA game must be ready for release...

Comment by: flip218 (Aug 15, 2005 18:39)

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Amen. It was the aame with me.

eh? Neph ... what did I tell you about eating and typing at the same time. STOP IT!!! lol


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Comment by: Nephilim (Aug 15, 2005 20:08)

Nah, my old man beat me so bad I can't spell anymore :P


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Comment by: Babyboy14 (Aug 15, 2005 20:47)

Video games are just a easy way out for criminals! I play games and kill over 100 people a day on the game and that dosent give me the urge to go out and kill in real life!

Comment by: goodswipe (Aug 16, 2005 12:03)

All you people are just arguing over nothing. Let me put it to you plain and simple,the kids are going to do what they want... I don't care what you say, you can only begin to show them the way. The child has to make their own desicion to do whats right. You spank the sh#t outa little Bobby... he's still gonna do what he wants. You give little Susie a lecture on something you think is right or wrong... little Susie has to make that decision.

"You can only show them the way..the right path to be traveled."

Comment by: Achilles3 (Aug 16, 2005 12:56)

I couldn't agree more goodswipe.

Comment by: sui-cyco (Aug 16, 2005 12:57)

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You spank the sh#t outa little Bobby

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You give little Susie a lecture

their names are TIMMY and SARAH.you must be talking about someone elses kids.besides timmys tuff..he can take it.and sarah doesnt pay attention anyway.

Comment by: goodswipe (Aug 16, 2005 14:45)

Thanks sui-cyco, that's exactly my point! Like I said they are going to do what they want.

Comment by: Mik3h (Aug 17, 2005 11:43)

These people are the kind of idiots who need an excuse for being messed up in the head. I feel sorry for the creators of these kind of games having to put up with so much hassle over something that quite plainly, an adult game. It was meant for adults, it shouldn't be sold to anyone BUT adults. Rockstar should take no responsibility for these kind of incidents, because it is nothing to do with them. They ratings state that you MUST be 18, to even play the game,

-Mike

Comment by: sui-cyco (Aug 17, 2005 11:54)

yeah,whats the freakin difference,MA or AO?you still have to be over 18 to buy it(in the us).

Comment by: skidme (Aug 17, 2005 12:44)

Nope, to buy MA you need to be 17


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Comment by: sui-cyco (Aug 17, 2005 13:04)

big difference,one year.like anybody is gonna card you for a game anyway.you cant buy beer until youre 21 but they still sell it at wal mart.so technically beer is rated xxx.


Comment by: vtecbaby (Aug 17, 2005 13:59)

My fiance and I are pretty young at the age of 24 and so he is still in to games like GTA and Silent Hill and stuff like that. His younger brothers are 12 and 14 and the 14 year old asked to play GTA and he told him no, it isn't a game you should playing until you can buy it yourself. His mom won't buy him the game because of what My fiance told her about the game.

Comment by: vtecbaby (Aug 17, 2005 14:04)

A lot of reaons kids play these games is because the parents don't check the ratings they just buy them because the kids want them. The Parents need to take responsibility for there kids and the choices they make about the movies they watch and the games that they play. That is what being a parent is about. BEING RESPONSIBLE. I have a 6 year and a 2 year old and we only get him games that are rated for him to play. I know that kids are influenced by a lot of different stuff now days and if i'm the only one standing between my kid and an M rated game that he wants I'll be standing there until I don't have a say.

Comment by: skidme (Aug 17, 2005 14:12)

@vtecbaby-your fiance is right in not letting his little bro play. The game is pretty much for adults only, and unlike the other GTA games in the series, is unsuitable for people younger than 17

Comment by: goodswipe (Aug 18, 2005 14:33)

You know you play way too much GTA if you do any of the following:

1. Spray paint buildings

2. Partake in drive by shootings

3. Break into houses

4. Kill random people and police officers

5. Kill random people and police officers then blame it on GTA

6. Have a flame thrower and/or sniper rifle in your closet

7. Take your car out and try to drive on water

8. Can't come home because you are on a vigilante mission

9. Call yourself CJ

10. Instinctively steal a car when your current car makes odd engine sounds

Comment by: vtecbaby (Aug 18, 2005 16:01)

Too funny lol. my fiance has to read that

Comment by: hooligan2 (Aug 19, 2005 14:30)

Dont take your car out and try to drive on water your insurance won't cover it even if you tell them you seen it in GTA. But for real with your kids all you can do is spend as much quality time as you can, show them right from wrong and hope for the best or at least that they dont do all the stuff you did.

Comment by: luck-e (Aug 19, 2005 19:01)

They better make more GTA games, i hope they wont stop all cuz of this influence shizz and "hot coffee mods stuff" gta is a good game just to take anger out or if you just feal like stealing cool cars or cop chases or anything else you can think of, The glitches to lol, let the GTA series go on, seriously!

Comment by: pippa (Aug 21, 2005 19:02)

Yea i hope they bring out GTA on the PS3. It'd it be rockin, fo shizzle, ya nar mean?

Photo realism graphics too. Gotta have the realism. Jerks like the one who blamed GTA could ruin it all. He's obviously a few shrimp short of a barbie. Not right in the head.

P.s theres a difference between spanking and beating. so long as u dont get the 2 confused, spank away.

Comment by: luck-e (Aug 21, 2005 23:19)

i agree with "pippa"lol go gta go

   

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