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Comment by: Jauzzi (May 31, 2005 12:28)

I was just playing with my friend fidel castro there guys, no need to worry... he got a little angry because of the chimichanga incident, but you are right, let's get back on topic. So what was the topic about?

Comment by: novicebb (May 31, 2005 14:24)

I got an email stating that this thread was updated just to read this crap! Absolutely nothing envolving the Nintendo Revolution console.

Comment by: !maestro! (Jun 27, 2005 17:07)

actually, all the next systems, xbox360,ps3 and the reveloution, are capable and have a 256 bit graphics card. ps2,xbox and gamecube all have a 128card, but some games looked crappy becuase they wernt using full capacity. ffx-ffx2 used full capacity in the videos and that was only 128! imagine wat 256 will look like! no matter wat system.

Comment by: novicebb (Jun 29, 2005 12:47)

I still don't understand those small number of people that are excited about the Nintendo Revolution though. Nintendo has made so many blunders in the past years including now bringing out a even smaller gameboy advance yet the have a gameboy SP and a Gameboy DS out as well. Plus just because Nintendo says that you can download games from 20 years of its library doesn't mean that it will be all games. May just be Nintendo developed and owned games and not Third party games licensed under nintendo such as Ninja Gaiden series, Double Dragon series, Bad Dudes, Bionic Commando, Smash TV, Super Raiden, Super R-type and others.

Comment by: ToxicFish (Jun 29, 2005 15:20)

I think that the micro and revolution are smart moves. I personally hate the DS and Gamecube, but there has to be alternatives to the big priced systems like the PSP and XBOX/PS2.

As long as there is a niece, someone has to fill it. The revolution is stylish and way smaller than the opposing competition. All those Jap kids eat that shit up. They have different taste all together, like that nintendogs??? What a screwed up game, and it's number one out there.

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Plus just because Nintendo says that you can download games from 20 years of its library doesn't mean that it will be all games. May just be Nintendo developed and owned games and not Third party games licensed under nintendo...

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I didn't even thing about 3rd party games for revolution... if those aren't released I wouldn't blow my brains out or anything. I get nostalgic every now and then and play NES games on my emulator. I used to live for contra and captain sky hawk, and now I just don't have the patience.

Comment by: !maestro! (Jun 29, 2005 17:00)

i dont really think theres apoint to make micro. because there are three versoins of the gba. Its probally the best yet though, because sp was to cramped and you had no hand space.

about downloading games on the reveloution, i think u can use roms, or u will have to pay.

But one things for shure, its going to be the cheapest out of all off themm.

Comment by: lanmc (Jul 11, 2005 17:13)

Nintendo revolution is so much better than the other systems people judge systems before the even know what they will be like. If nintendo Revolution has backward capability and can play downloaded earlier system games then it is so much better and if any of you little fuckers say it is a piece of shit then look at who made the first good system. NINTENDO

Comment by: odb992001 (Jul 12, 2005 14:21)

Don't get me wrong i like my ps2, and psp. but come on people at E3 the pictures and demo's the ps3 showed look's very good, but they are not the real game play, people are saying ps3 is the best. might be true but if the companies can give u a game that looks that damn good why not have it in real time so people could play it. xbox360 had games to play and gears of war looks damn good. i love my gamecube even if it don't have all the M rated games. pluse the revolution will have all the classic game for all they sytems, how cool is that. who need all that s*#*t on a console i have a cd player i have a dvd player. i just won't a video game system thats low in price. i will get the ps3 if it's not 400, 500 dallors, but the revolution is fisrt for me. i think nintendo system will look just as good as ps3 and xbox360. ODB

Comment by: novicebb (Jul 18, 2005 10:56)

The only thing that Nintendo will have going for them as far as the Revolution is concern is the price. That is it. I mean can you imagine Nintendo tries to market downloadable games from Nintendo's library and then you go online and find out that those same roms can be downloaded for free online for your PS3 or 360.

The only chance Revolution has is if it supports downloadable versions of the same current games you can buy on disk at the store but at a lower price. So for example: If you purchase say Madden 2007 on disk for Nintendo Revolution for 49.95 at your local retailer but have the option of downloading directly from Nintendo's site for 29.95 then I think it may have a chance. But for it to do this it will have to have a harddrive or offer support for one.

Comment by: DaveS0811 (Jul 20, 2005 11:21)

I own every console since the atari 2600 to the NEO GEO to the XBOX, PS2, and NGC. To say that the old games don't matter is ridiculous. The only reason I bought the XBOX is because it had Metal Slug 3 and because I can mod it to play emulators. I've never bought an XBOX game, but yet I have bought over 70 NGC games. The only reason I bought a PS2 was for DDR, which I've now just DLed onto my XBOX. So, if you really want to find which system is doing well, and which system will survive, lets look at the money trail for people of the general public. Parents will buy games for their kids. Games like Animal Cross, any Mario title, any Zelda title, and Metroid. I know I wouldn't want my kids playing GTA and Playboy Mansion, but I can download it for myself.

Bottom line, I'm willing to pay for games, and if I don't have to pay to download a game, how is the company going to survive? PS2 has made little money from me. XBOX has not made a single profit from me. But, I have spent thousands of dollars on NGC....

I guess I'm just another loyal fan that will have to say goodbye to Nintendo. R.I.P (sarcastically)

Comment by: GFreeman (Jul 22, 2005 18:20)

first off feel free to flame me as much as you want, as i will probably never go to this site again. you are all complete asses. one guy throws out an opinion and people explode on him telling him how wrong he is and he should kill himself. MY personal opinion is this, nintendo may not be out yet, but its dying and dying quickly. i have been a fan of nintendo since i was a little kid and got my first game system, the NES. but ive grown older and found myself enjoying the nintendo less, probably due to the lack of games for older people. i dont want to play super mario spray and wash, or bang on the bongos with a damn monkey. call me mainstream or whatever but i want to blow someones head off sometimes. i have invested enough in nintendos "everyone can play" titles, and they seem to be cranking out nothing but them lately. yeah price does mean something and thats why i think nintendo will live through this round, but then again if they priced the virtual boy at $10 would it have been successful? i dont see myself buying a revolution unless there are going to be some serious changes, the only exclusive that i find myself enjoying lately is zelda, the rest to me have taken a turn for the worse. and downloading games on a console? who gives a rats ass? you can download "classic" games on any shitty comp and play them. lack of controller? go out and buy a POS for $10. they have playstation clones that IMHO is the best controller. /rant

Comment by: sr.bond (Jul 23, 2005 00:56)

i could not agree more!!

Comment by: Nintendog (Jul 24, 2005 00:25)

fuck all you fuckers nintendo is the best it is better then any other console nintendo made the gaming world work we are the grandfather of the industry were going to fuck your mums while you watch and cry like little bitches having your first orgasm SO ALL WAYS REMEMBER THAT NINTENDO IS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by: dg0896 (Jul 24, 2005 23:15)

I couldn't agree more nintendo started video games if it weren;t for them you sony fuckers wouldn't be able to play you're fucking grand theft auto.

Comment by: novicebb (Jul 25, 2005 12:52)

Did nintendo start modern gaming as we know it? Yes. But did Nintendo create video games? NO! And just because it is the granddaddy of games doesn't mean it is the best or should always be highly regarded. I mean it is the granddady of games. And I take offense to being called a Fuck*$ as well.

Comment by: odb992001 (Jul 25, 2005 14:05)

It's the ODB here, why is everyone so uptight on the up coming console's. everyone is on the power of these machines, graphic don't make the game, gameplay do, don't get me wrong i love good graphic. but it like everybody is say those games look better than the xbox360 and so on,i will get both sony & nintendo. but i will have nintendo first because it will cost less. maybe the big N will change the way of games, maybe the big N can get more M rating games and still have the kid games too. u never know. if nintendo had more M games like sony no one would be talking in this thread, cause nintendo and sony would be neck & neck in this race and xbox & 360 would be in 3rd.

Comment by: novicebb (Jul 26, 2005 12:32)

HUH? Who is this guy and what drugs is he on? Claiming that Xbox would be in third? Who is he kidding.

Comment by: Nintendog (Jul 26, 2005 22:29)

dg0896 is a legend nintendo is the best and all ways be the best and graphix is not all game play is fuck sony, xbox is all right but nintendo is the best any one who likes nintendo stik with it and never give up and all yous are legends for likeing nintendo and nintendo DS makes Sony PSP piss bye miles becoz graphix isent every think i admit that PSP has some good graphix but it aint all about that and DS has good graphix and way better games!!!

Comment by: OzMick (Jul 26, 2005 22:41)

Man, this thread has turned to shit. *UNSUBSCRIBED*

Comment by: Angelhelm (Jul 27, 2005 03:18)

well it would be very hard for any one system to dominate more then 40% of the existing market i don't think that that nindendo with the weaker power in graphic will be at a huge disadvantage as i believe that title names aka ninja gaiden vs smash brothers will be the deciding factor in the console wars and not the power of the system. As it will reach a point where one can no longer tell the difference. But that is just my 2 cents.

Comment by: ENDERXVIC (Aug 08, 2005 03:34)

Just like GFreeman will prob never be in here agin but just want to point out how stupid some of these people are. The thing is that Microsofr and Sony know that if you show dumb people big numbers with a MB or GHZ behind it they will think it is the greatest thing ever. These high numbers and and 3 of these, 35x this, 5 times as powerful dont mean anything. If anyone in here knows anything about how a computer works they will agree with me. Its not all about how much power you can put into them. Its about how you use the power that is in it. XBox360 may have their 3x 3.2GHZ processors. Show me a single game or app that will use that much power and i will shit my pants. Look at how many pipelines, FSB, pipeline width. Find where all the bottlenecks in the PS3 and XBox are going to be. Then try to find a bottleneck in the Nintendo Revolution. There arnt any. Thats why it is really more powerfull.

Lets look at an example

XBOX 360 3x 3.2ghz processors. (Im not sure of the specs for this but you should understand it)

lets say that there are a total of 12 pipelines here. each processor will get 4. take away 1 or 2 of these processors and you give each 6 pipelines or a single proc all 12. Your feeding a small amount of information to a processor that can handle SOOOO MUCH MORE. This will just slow down communication as it bottlenecks around the processors. Picture traffic on a 12 lane highway being cramed into a 4 lane highway. Doesnt work to well. Similar concept here, things will slow down.

Its just my opinion but i would prefer the 12x1 ratio myself. Instead of the 4x3. Just makes more sense, You get more power if you spend more yes. But you see more speed and what seems like more power if you spend less.

See what im getting at here.

Nintendo has it right. Single processors, nice big pipelines. easy flow of traffic. hmmm, go nintendo.

these are the same reasons Apple computers run better that PCs.

Comment by: tre_selor (Nov 02, 2005 19:01)

ehhh graphics arent everything, i remember i did the best thing last year and got rid of my Xbox, and gamecube, and got a whole bunch of regular nintendo games.. spend most my time on computer (fps games, rts games, MMORPG) but when i wanna play a console i pick up my handy dandy Nintendo Controller and play away... Contra/Mario 3/Castlevania/Final Fantasy anyone?

Comment by: odb992001 (Nov 03, 2005 08:18)

I agree with you Enderxvic. if people remember when xbox and ps2 came out, nintendo said the same thing that the gamecube was not as strong as the spec of the ps2 and xbox. but the ported games looked as good as the ps2, and xbox was a little smoother than the two. so the rev will have good looking graphics just as xbox360, ps3.

Comment by: VivaLaRev (Dec 29, 2005 21:09)

Hey,

Let me start off by stating that it is 2a.m., and that the only reason I have joined Afterdark is this thread. I have just spent the last hour reading this thread, in it's entirety. I must say that from the start this thread has been based on flaming and narrow minds. Furthermore, I believe that some forum members could do with a grammar lesson rather than the next installment of Halo, LOL. However, I must get to the point and hit the sack.

I quite frankly have been a rabid Nintendo fan for years. I still remember buying the stickers and all for my room. I thought that this loyalty would have broadened mind and made me more receptive to Nintendo's "innovations". However, my first thoughts about the system, mainly its "Tv remote"-esqe controller, were highly critical. But, I must admit after seeing a few of the possible applications for the new controller, I was hooked again. Hell, even now I desperatley want to pre-order a Revolution. I've never been more excited about a console. I don't know why exactly, but its' seems so full of life and as silly as it sounds different.

As far as graphics are concerned, I really don't think they will change my decision to buy a Revolution. Here's why:

A. Nintendo has not released it's specifications yet, so it is ridiculous to frett over speculated figures.

B. Nintendo has stated that the graphics will be "on par". Although this statement may be a let down for some, I never really expected Nintendo to go "power hungry". They're alittle too resourceful for that sort of thing.

C. I dont know about you guys, but that demo looked liked straight-up fun! I think it gives the system the life I was talking about earlier. So yea, I'm gonna say "game-play". Plus, there are already big-name designers such as Hideo Kojima drooling to develop fps for the Revolution. Just thought I'd mention it for all the Halo fans.

D. Money talks. I'm sorry, but a system whose graphics are "on par", has amazingly fun game-play and cost about the same as the competitions handheld? Think about it. What kind of parent is going to shell out 400-700 bucks on their kids latest phase? Heck, going off to college next year, I know my pockets will be hurting.

E. So, they want to charge. Who cares, by allowing for gamers to legally download classic games they not only widen their potential market but combat piracy. Resourceful egh? If, you're worried about extra fees, don't. Just think how much money you saved by not getting a Playstation 3, and remember you've got cash to burn. Furthermore, no one is bitching about iTunes. Same concept.

F. Curiosity, I'm itching to know what the Nintendo execs said would "replace HD". I've read all sorts of crazy trite ranging from 3-D holographs, no joke, to an HD side step using filter effects.

G. Last, I don't remember the last time Nintendo has had this much third party support. So, the way I see it, if game designers are excited I should be too.

Now, as far as the Revolution being Nintendo's Obi Wan, I'm skeptical. Nintendo could make 20 more years of complete flops before beginning to worry. Some very good arguments concerning Nintendo financial status were lodged earlier. Basically, Nintendo has been around since 1890, I think. They started off making some kind of Japanese playing cards, god only knows. Furthermore, Nintendo has had 15 years to completely ride the market. So, like the early profiteers of the American industrial revolution Nintendo has room for competition and error. They've made their money, unlike Sega who I believe was a much newer company. On a second note, Nintendo does not have to "win", because they are not directly competing, smart move. Nintendo's Revolution will be cheap enough that many gamers will buy one even though they have already purchased other next-gen consoles.

Okay, let's talk smack. The Playstation is a good console. I have both the Playstation and Playstation2. However, I remember getting my first Playstation a year or two after my N64. Furthermore, Sony is going overboard with costs. The predicted price of a Playstation3 at this time is 500-700 Us dollars. I don't know about you, but for me that breaks the bank. Secondly, predicted prices are much more accurate than speculated specifications for a next-gen console. But, from what I've seen, if you've got the money it might be worth it. Can't trust "Bull shots".

If you're an XBOX fan, you're not getting off that easy, I didn't forget you. Where to begin. I remember the humble beginnings of the XBOX. Microsoft had to buy it's flagship titles. May Bungi rest in peace, or pieces. Other than that, I've never seen much going for it, except for XBOX Live, that was sheer brilliance.

Anyways, unlike Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony have already committed. Their specs and shots are out there for the world to see. From what I've seen neither one has really improved too much, maybe alittle more texture depth and faster frame rates. I'm expecting alot from the Playstation3, but I must say I'm not impressed with the 360. My disappointment is based on the hype. From 9.6Ghz of processing power I was expecting alot more. So, in the end, I guess I'm trying to say that Nintendo is creating a system which I think will be very fresh and interesting, not to mention fun. Thats what it's about in the end, fun. So, I personally support and wish Nintendo much success. I plan to snatch up one of those little puppies before it even touches the shelves. Whats the point in 9.6Ghz if you only use 4? I would rather have fun than look at 500million teraflops and be bored/frustrated. Plus like I said earlier, "on par" XD. Night.

Comment by: creaky (Jan 04, 2006 17:38)

i too have joined this so-called thread. even though this is an old thread it looks like there's some posters in here who need to at least start trying to pretend they can string two sentences together without the babyish remarks. the babies know who they are, and looks like i'll be checking thru a few of their current posts to see if they've reached puberty since their pathetic replies were posted. They should realise that a simple google search can dump someone smack bang in the middle of one of those replies.

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