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Comment by: jetyi83 (Mar 15, 2009 20:08)

obviously the reason she went to her parents is because he said, "take more or ill post them on the internet" and she was scared and didnt know what to do so she told her parents, so yes he belongs in jail and is most definitely a piece of sh**. im glad she is from texas

Comment by: jetyi83 (Mar 15, 2009 20:12)

Originally posted by varnull:

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*yawn*.. she sent them to him.. so logic says she as the provider of the illegal images should get a heftier sentence then the receiver of the pictures. Isn't taking and distributing indecent pictures of a minor a crime then?

sometimes the lack of logic in the US legal system beggars belief.

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youre stupid. for one its not illegal to take nude pics of yourself, and two she is 11. who the *bleep* is going to accuse an 11 year old of child pornography for taking pics of herself

Comment by: cyprusrom (Mar 15, 2009 20:45)

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Originally posted by varnull:

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*yawn*.. she sent them to him.. so logic says she as the provider of the illegal images should get a heftier sentence then the receiver of the pictures. Isn't taking and distributing indecent pictures of a minor a crime then?

sometimes the lack of logic in the US legal system beggars belief.

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youre stupid. for one its not illegal to take nude pics of yourself, and two she is 11. who the muck is going to accuse an 11 year old of child pornography for taking pics of herself

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What are you, a dude with an IQ of 25 that cannot engage into a conversation without using profanities?

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obviously the reason she went to her parents is because he said, "take more or ill post them on the internet" and she was scared and didnt know what to do so she told her parents,

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How can you be a mind reader with such a low IQ?

The prick should get what he deserves, but the girl/her parents should not just be absolved of guilt. "She is only eleven" doesn't cut it. Its a poor excuse. Playing "Warhawk" at eleven, taking digital pictures of herself and uploading them - where were the parents all this time? I'd say is child neglect right there. And the "little" miss-sunshine, smart enough to do everything , but not smart enough not to go along with all this,eh?

Comment by: RippDogg (Mar 15, 2009 21:01)

This kind of thing is pervasive now. Kids are sending pics of themselves to each other over the phone, etc. In this age, it's borderline impossible to stay on top of everything your kid is doing. You can monitor all you want, but if they want to access or do something online, they'll find ways (friend's pc, library, etc). About the most effective means is to raise them and spend time with them instead of letting the television or computer do the job, and when someone like this b@stard is caught, include your kid in the conversation. That, you know, and jacking this guy up by his neck to set an example of what we do to pedophiles.

Comment by: Azuran (Mar 15, 2009 21:59)

Im in agreement that both should be punished. We charge minors all the time as adults for crimes. This is not much different. The girl knew what she was doing and she knew it was wrong. The guy is a piece of crap and deserves what he has comming to him, but the girl is partially to blame.

Comment by: gleone (Mar 15, 2009 22:13)

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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Mar 15, 2009 22:24)

Both need to be punished, laws regarding minors have to many loopholes and allow some to hold to much power.

Though things like this are hardly a real crime both need fines levied against them other than that move on nothing new to see here.

The reason I say this is because people over state themselves online all the time IMO the line is only crossed if they did meet IRL.

Comment by: onya (Mar 15, 2009 22:27)

Originally posted by RippDogg:

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This kind of thing is pervasive now. Kids are sending pics of themselves to each other over the phone, etc. In this age, it's borderline impossible to stay on top of everything your kid is doing. You can monitor all you want, but if they want to access or do something online, they'll find ways (friend's pc, library, etc). About the most effective means is to raise them and spend time with them instead of letting the television or computer do the job, and when someone like this b@stard is caught, include your kid in the conversation. That, you know, and jacking this guy up by his neck to set an example of what we do to pedophiles.

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The point you make is vital and all too few realise it. We all cry foul when this kind of ugliness shows itself, but we must ask ourselves of the accountability of parents and their inaction and inept attitudes. It's all too easy to blame the technological advances made and all too easy to blame someone else. Where are the parents in all this.
It's all nice and wonderful to have a child experience what is in the world with such technology, but to fail to understand that such a tool can bring dire harm is just inexcusable. This little girl will never be the same again, and why?, because someone dropped the damn ball is why. They failed and failed badly. To the parents....Hang your heads in shame at what happened, and as for that filth that was caught..No mercy...No quarter.

Comment by: windsong (Mar 15, 2009 22:33)

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Originally posted by varnull:

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*yawn*.. she sent them to him.. so logic says she as the provider of the illegal images should get a heftier sentence then the receiver of the pictures. Isn't taking and distributing indecent pictures of a minor a crime then?

sometimes the lack of logic in the US legal system beggars belief.

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youre stupid. for one its not illegal to take nude pics of yourself, and two she is 11. who the * is going to accuse an 11 year old of child pornography for taking pics of herself

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The same police who arrested a 15 and 17 year old. :)
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/...hington_DC.html

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Mar 15, 2009 22:34)

Originally posted by onya:

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Originally posted by RippDogg:

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This kind of thing is pervasive now. Kids are sending pics of themselves to each other over the phone, etc. In this age, it's borderline impossible to stay on top of everything your kid is doing. You can monitor all you want, but if they want to access or do something online, they'll find ways (friend's pc, library, etc). About the most effective means is to raise them and spend time with them instead of letting the television or computer do the job, and when someone like this b@stard is caught, include your kid in the conversation. That, you know, and jacking this guy up by his neck to set an example of what we do to pedophiles.

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The point you make is vital and all too few realise it. We all cry foul when this kind of ugliness shows itself, but we must ask ourselves of the accountability of parents and their inaction and inept attitudes. It's all too easy to blame the technological advances made and all too easy to blame someone else. Where are the parents in all this.
It's all nice and wonderful to have a child experience what is in the world with such technology, but to fail to understand that such a tool can bring dire harm is just inexcusable. This little girl will never be the same again, and why?, because someone dropped the damn ball is why. They failed and failed badly. To the parents....Hang your heads in shame at what happened, and as for that filth that was caught..No mercy...No quarter.

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She wont ever be the same again because she had to grow up.... life is funny like that....realizations and epiphanies change you and force you to either break or mature.... I should know...I have gone though both....

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Mar 15, 2009 22:37)

Originally posted by windsong:

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Originally posted by varnull:

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*yawn*.. she sent them to him.. so logic says she as the provider of the illegal images should get a heftier sentence then the receiver of the pictures. Isn't taking and distributing indecent pictures of a minor a crime then?

sometimes the lack of logic in the US legal system beggars belief.

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youre stupid. for one its not illegal to take nude pics of yourself, and two she is 11. who the * is going to accuse an 11 year old of child pornography for taking pics of herself

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The same police who arrested a 15 and 17 year old. :)
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/...DC.html

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Ya in US law the teen who sends pics is as guilty of child porn as the adult who takes them....

Comment by: NexGen76 (Mar 15, 2009 23:32)

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Originally posted by windsong:

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Originally posted by varnull:

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*yawn*.. she sent them to him.. so logic says she as the provider of the illegal images should get a heftier sentence then the receiver of the pictures. Isn't taking and distributing indecent pictures of a minor a crime then?

sometimes the lack of logic in the US legal system beggars belief.

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youre stupid. for one its not illegal to take nude pics of yourself, and two she is 11. who the * is going to accuse an 11 year old of child pornography for taking pics of herself

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The same police who arrested a 15 and 17 year old. :)
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/...DC.html

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Ya in US law the teen who sends pics is as guilty of child porn as the adult who takes them....

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Amen.....Brotha

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Mar 15, 2009 23:51)

NexGen76

IMO there is some guilt involved though not on the same level.
500 to 2K fine would be acceptable, for the adult receiver 1K-5K fine.

This is if caught, if there were any meetings between them I'd then that becomes a issue where crime might have happened but you just can't police every instance of communication...

Comment by: justme81 (Mar 16, 2009 00:37)

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Originally posted by NexGen76:

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Throw him under the Jail.......I'm glad he was caught but the girl need to be punished for her actions also.

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The girl needs to be punished!?! For what? For being taken advantage of? The girl needs to be congratulated for actually going to her parents, unlike most children who never talk about what happens to them and never get the help they need. It's views that children should be punished for coming forward about the abuse they go through that keep them in the dark and suffering. Which in turn lets these creeps continue taking advantage of them. You have some serious flaws in your personal views.

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Punished no but educated HELL yess it took her "several weeks" to tell her parents and after she "perform for him via a Webcam." WEEKS why did it take weeks? why wasnt the girl screaming for her parents the first time he asked for nude pics? Simply bc the parents failed her clearly did not educate her and Im guessing did not use parental controls to control who she could talk to. The blame and maybe blame is to stong of a word but her parents messed up and this is what these pedifiles pray on. The girl took pics of herself sent them did a webcam show said nothing and after weeks she said somthing? Agian why did it take weeks? This a hold need to go to jail but once again a young girl was fooled and taken advantage of.

Comment by: justme81 (Mar 16, 2009 00:51)

Originally posted by varnull:

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*yawn*.. she sent them to him.. so logic says she as the provider of the illegal images should get a heftier sentence then the receiver of the pictures. Isn't taking and distributing indecent pictures of a minor a crime then?

sometimes the lack of logic in the US legal system beggars belief.

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Yes there is a huge amt of "sexting" sending a nude photo to your bf or gf or someone via cell phone and they are being charged with child porn and the sender and receiver both being charged and being labeld a sex offender for the rest of there life. and if you show your friends it now your a distributer of child porn even the possibilitys of big sentence the law has not caught up with the technology. Its even worse if you happen to be 18 and your bf or gf is still a minor and sends you a nude pic or you send them one possible big jail time.

Comment by: justme81 (Mar 16, 2009 01:03)

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Originally posted by varnull:

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*yawn*.. she sent them to him.. so logic says she as the provider of the illegal images should get a heftier sentence then the receiver of the pictures. Isn't taking and distributing indecent pictures of a minor a crime then?

sometimes the lack of logic in the US legal system beggars belief.

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youre stupid. for one its not illegal to take nude pics of yourself, and two she is 11. who the fuck is going to accuse an 11 year old of child pornography for taking pics of herself

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. It is a crime child porn is child porn even if its of you. The law has not caught up with the tech. It's called "sexting" ITS ILLEGAL IF YOUR A MINOR AND SEND THEM even to another minor its not a crime when you are 18 or older till then it is actually considered a crime. and if you dont believe me find the Dateline (I think) story on "sexting" prosecuters are going after kids and chargeing them with child porn for sending or getting the nude pics. Look it up "sexting"

Comment by: embo22000 (Mar 16, 2009 14:50)

this reminds me of those dumb under 18 girls that sleep with every guy they meet and as soon as they get in trouble they call rape. F.... B...

Comment by: DXR88 (Mar 16, 2009 17:45)

Both of them need a penalty for such profound behavior.

Minors Can get away with just about anything hell i know i have when i was a Minor but the thing was i knew what was coming when i got home.

The devils can be beat out of any child,just got to know what hurts em the most.

Comment by: cyprusrom (Mar 16, 2009 19:18)

Originally posted by embo22000:

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this reminds me of those dumb under 18 girls that sleep with every guy they meet and as soon as they get in trouble they call rape. F.... B...

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LOL! You didn't get burned by some jail bait my friend, did you?

Comment by: atomicxl (Mar 16, 2009 20:14)

Originally posted by NexGen76:

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Throw him under the Jail.......I'm glad he was caught but the girl need to be punished for her actions also.

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I agree. My sister is 12 and I can say that she definitely knows its not ok to take naked pictures of yourself and send them to strangers on the internet. I don't think there is a massive jump in maturity from being 11 to being 12. An 11 year old is a 5th grader. They've had sex-ed by that time. These aren't like 5 year olds.

The guy should get a sentence but I don't see how the girl should get off scott free. She provided child porn and sent it over the net. Isn't that illegal? I don't think it should be given the stamp approval just because, "he asked me to do it." Plus, she "performed" for him.

I think that as a whole, this country gives minors too little credit and always paints them as some innocent victim of a sad and cruel world. I say no. Some of them are indeed psychopaths and some of them are indeed sluts and whores.

Comment by: slickwill (Mar 16, 2009 22:07)

I'm not siding with either party in this incident, but that guy is an idiot. If he wanted to engage in that kind of activity with a minor, then he should have found someone that's not living in the same country as him. This way, he would have probably gotten away with it since he and the victim would have been in two different countries.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Mar 16, 2009 22:08)

Originally posted by slickwill:

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I'm not siding with either party in this incident, but that guy is an idiot. If he wanted to engage in that kind of activity with a minor, then he should have found someone that's not living in the same country as him. This way, he would have probably gotten away with it since he and the victim would have been in two different countries.

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Esier said than done, unless you troll then its rather easy....

Comment by: DXR88 (Mar 16, 2009 22:28)

Originally posted by slickwill:

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I'm not siding with either party in this incident, but that guy is an idiot. If he wanted to engage in that kind of activity with a minor, then he should have found someone that's not living in the same country as him. This way, he would have probably gotten away with it since he and the victim would have been in two different countries.

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Sounds like you know your stuff.

Comment by: scorpNZ (Mar 17, 2009 00:28)

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Originally posted by jetyi83:

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youre stupid. for one its not illegal to take nude pics of yourself, and two she is 11. who the *bleep* is going to accuse an 11 year old of child pornography for taking pics of herself

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Huh!,first you go on about what you think may have been said or some lame attempt to get her to send more pictures otherwise what was it you said he said ?,show me again in that topic where it is mentioned blackmail was used i don't seem to see a charge for it ,which seems rather strange when she quite willingly sent the first picture/s,as for the above quote,varnull never mentioned anywhere it was illegal to take piks herself,what she was saying is it's illegal to distribute pictures of minors one would assume that includes minors themselves & at 11 years of age she should know that or at least know it's not quite right for some pedo to be asking for them,yes!

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Mar 17, 2009 01:20)

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Originally posted by jetyi83:

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youre stupid. for one its not illegal to take nude pics of yourself, and two she is 11. who the *bleep* is going to accuse an 11 year old of child pornography for taking pics of herself

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Huh!,first you go on about what you think may have been said or some lame attempt to get her to send more pictures otherwise what was it you said he said ?,show me again in that topic where it is mentioned blackmail was used i don't seem to see a charge for it ,which seems rather strange when she quite willingly sent the first picture/s,as for the above quote,varnull never mentioned anywhere it was illegal to take piks herself,what she was saying is it's illegal to distribute pictures of minors one would assume that includes minors themselves & at 11 years of age she should know that or at least know it's not quite right for some pedo to be asking for them,yes!

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Technically it is illagle to take pictures and own them even if tis of you. Hell nude pics of babies are even questioned...