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Comment by: ddp (Dec 31, 2008 03:44)

stay on topic or thread is closed & religion is not the topic!!

Comment by: xboxdvl2 (Dec 31, 2008 03:54)

why didnt they just slap an R18+ rating on it and scrap the censorship.

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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Dec 31, 2008 05:43)

I wonder when they will put in a word white list....

Comment by: H0bbes (Dec 31, 2008 06:55)

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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I wonder when they will put in a word white list....

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Good point.


This all reminds me of a TV Guardian box at a friend's house. It blocks obvious foul, and sex-ralated words, but it had a setting in which it would display a "replacement" word. Often it could be just as offensive, or downright funny! For example:

Word----Replacement
P***y Wimp
F*** Wow [LOL!]
Sex Hugs
B**ch[ing] Nag[ging]
Gay Happy
Sh** Crud
Crap Crud [yes, it actually replaced crap...lol]
Damn Darn [same root word in dictionary]

We were watching Shrek 2 [I think], and every time the Closed Captions were indicating that the Puss In Boots was speaking, like "Puss-In-Boots: 'The rich King? Sí.'", the box would mute the sound and display "Wimp-In-Boots!" LOL!
Even funnier is a TV evangelist with the religious setting on. Mutes any reference to Jesus or God.

I thought that was hilarious.

Comment by: canuckerz (Dec 31, 2008 07:24)

Originally posted by xboxdvl2:

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why didnt they just slap an R18+ rating on it and scrap the censorship.

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I wish they would but unfortunately they're going down the "casual" and family gaming road. What I find ironic is that most of the people who are using those words and shooting off are the kids who are under 18.

Comment by: Leningrad (Dec 31, 2008 16:56)

Originally posted by ddp:

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stay on topic or thread is closed & religion is not the topic!!

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Isn't this a forum and a place where you are free to speak (just asking)

Comment by: varnull (Dec 31, 2008 18:22)

not really.. religion and politics are two banned subjects.. read my lips.. prop8

what would you expect from a site walking roughshod over the dcma regulations yet hosted in Texas(probably by mormons).. hahaha

anyway.. as way of new year giggles.. (lets see if we can make ddp smile.. not much chance I know.. but you can never tell eh?)

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Comment by: Globe08 (Dec 31, 2008 19:07)

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Originally posted by ddp:

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stay on topic or thread is closed & religion is not the topic!!

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Isn't this a forum and a place where you are free to speak (just asking)

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In a perfect world the answer to that question would be yes. But we live in a world where-by all communication and views of what is acceptable is handled by those in power. In this case the mods of a video-game/electronics forum in other areas its the government. Im o conspiracy theorist btw just saying communication is vital to growth as a species but most anything important has red tape in front of it

Comment by: Globe08 (Dec 31, 2008 19:20)

Censorship just makes it all that much more to those who are being sheilded from whatever it is being censored. tell a kid not to touch something you better believe you just doubled the odds hes going to touch it.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Dec 31, 2008 19:29)

Originally posted by Globe08:

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Censorship just makes it all that much more to those who are being sheilded from whatever it is being censored. tell a kid not to touch something you better believe you just doubled the odds hes going to touch it.

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I find that censorship dose 2 things makes alot of people dumber becuse they assume they and others need protection and the other some will strive to find the censored things.

Comment by: DRokKer (Dec 31, 2008 19:32)

yes this is a forum, and yes religion can kiss my shiney metal ass!

Comment by: Paladore (Dec 31, 2008 19:36)

Well, in not for censorship but come on, it is needed. There are alot of children who play games and when im playing xbox live almost every time i play there is some jerk on there droping f bombs or other insults to someone else. I don't think i've ever hard the word fag or gay so much in my life than when im playing halo3. To Varnull, don't go blaming the "christian bible thumpers" for this. This is just Sony trying to cover their own asses, and don't be so hard on people with faith, this is a gaming topic, no reason to impose your beliefs on other people about your faith or lack of it in some church. Let people do what they want. Most Christians don't bible thump and force their views or beliefs. I'm catholic but know what your talking about, no one likes having a person pointing a finger at your holding a bible and condeming you for your choices.

Comment by: Leningrad (Dec 31, 2008 19:48)

Originally posted by DRokKer:

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yes this is a forum, and yes religion can kiss my shiney metal ass!

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dude dont be that provocating, there are religious people like me that are disturbed by these kind of comments(im catholic).

Comment by: Leningrad (Dec 31, 2008 19:51)

Originally posted by Paladore:

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Well, in not for censorship but come on, it is needed. There are alot of children who play games and when im playing xbox live almost every time i play there is some jerk on there droping f bombs or other insults to someone else. I don't think i've ever hard the word fag or gay so much in my life than when im playing halo3. To Varnull, don't go blaming the "christian bible thumpers" for this. This is just Sony trying to cover their own asses, and don't be so hard on people with faith, this is a gaming topic, no reason to impose your beliefs on other people about your faith or lack of it in some church. Let people do what they want. Most Christians don't bible thump and force their views or beliefs. I'm catholic but know what your talking about, no one likes having a person pointing a finger at your holding a bible and condeming you for your choices.

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im with you dude, and well said.

Comment by: Globe08 (Dec 31, 2008 23:59)

unfortunatly for the religous folk there are nuts like Jack thompson out there in the public eye running their mouth saying stupid stuff like "god is waiting to punish take-two"


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Comment by: DRokKer (Jan 01, 2009 19:23)

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Originally posted by DRokKer:

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yes this is a forum, and yes religion can kiss my shiney metal ass!

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dude dont be that provocating, there are religious people like me that are disturbed by these kind of comments(im catholic).

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dude, if my comments disturb you dont read them, i will say what i think in a public forum. i care not if you are catholic or a jedi or an atheist. dont try to censor people.

Comment by: creaky (Jan 01, 2009 19:46)

Originally posted by DRokKer:

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i will say what i think in a public forum. i care not if you are catholic or a jedi or an atheist. dont try to censor people.

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Saying what you think doesn't mean anything goes. If you need censoring then you will be censored.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jan 01, 2009 19:58)

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Originally posted by DRokKer:

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yes this is a forum, and yes religion can kiss my shiney metal ass!

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dude dont be that provocating, there are religious people like me that are disturbed by these kind of comments(im catholic).

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dude, if my comments disturb you dont read them, i will say what i think in a public forum. i care not if you are catholic or a jedi or an atheist. dont try to censor people.

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Ture, if a person dose not have a think skin to brush off most of the absurdity of life they might as well be a child because they act as one.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jan 01, 2009 20:01)

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Originally posted by DRokKer:

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i will say what i think in a public forum. i care not if you are catholic or a jedi or an atheist. dont try to censor people.

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Saying what you think doesn't mean anything goes. If you need censoring then you will be censored.

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Without a doubt but what about the whining that comes from neither bad nor highly annoying statements?

I guess it all falls under the guise of trying not to go off topic.

And yes I know I am in the OT gutter....why do I always wind up in teh gutter =0-o=

Comment by: canuckerz (Jan 02, 2009 00:35)

Originally posted by Paladore:

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Well, in not for censorship but come on, it is needed. There are alot of children who play games and when im playing xbox live almost every time i play there is some jerk on there droping f bombs or other insults to someone else. I don't think i've ever hard the word fag or gay so much in my life than when im playing halo3.

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I hate to burst your bubble but most the games that those children are playing online are usually rated 17+.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jan 02, 2009 00:52)

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Originally posted by Paladore:

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Well, in not for censorship but come on, it is needed. There are alot of children who play games and when im playing xbox live almost every time i play there is some jerk on there droping f bombs or other insults to someone else. I don't think i've ever hard the word fag or gay so much in my life than when im playing halo3.

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I hate to burst your bubble but most the games that those children are playing online are usually rated 17+.

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Kids have been talking sht amongst each other since forever.
Now its just more annoying than ever....

Comment by: spiesfan (Jan 02, 2009 02:12)

yeah this gives them a larger megaphone

Comment by: Globe08 (Jan 05, 2009 14:33)

Originally posted by spiesfan:

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yeah this gives them a larger megaphone

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Im guessing from a kids perspective they hear the stuff online think its cool and use it. Also keep in mind its a way for kids to be defiant and have no consequences,im not condoning it just saying.That way they can tell somebody twice their age to "suck it" or what have you and the only thing the recipient can do is ignore it or get pissed and go back and forth with the kid which i think is the desired response.

Comment by: qazwiz (Jan 09, 2009 23:45)

Originally posted by Globe08:

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...... or get pissed and go back and forth with the kid which i think is the desired response.

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exactly
which is why ignore and report for banning is the only acceptable response

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as to the "censoring of religion", it should be as offensive to a Christian (someone who looks to Christ to save them)to see a Catholic (someone who looks to Mary to save them) or a Muslim (someone who looks to Alla to save them) being censored as it is to be censored themselves (AND VICE-VERSA)

There has always been "fanatics" in what ever group is formed, be it religious, political, or even sports (Have you been to a hockey or soccer game lately?) the most extreme of which results in deaths of themselves and/or others (even sports riots have resulted in deaths)

censoring shouldn't be done to "what" is said, but rather HOW it is said. The bible tells us to build up, not to tear down so censor anything said to tear down to encourage the building up of others.

so you should be trying to say "Go TEAM" not trying to goad the other team.... you catch more flies with honey than vinegar, so too, you will attract more followers by gently pointing out flaws of current beliefs than by blowing yourself up because you want 77 virgins

just make sure that, whatever group you align yourself with, they don't censor what you are allowed consider.... because that is the definition of brainwashing, preventing contrary ideas to insure a result

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Comment by: qazwiz (Jan 10, 2009 00:08)

forgot to mention

any system that censors by blacklist can be defeated by just going ALPHA-BRAVO... the old radio words used to ensure a message was recieved exactly as planned not some homophone equivalent

since many words have similar sounding words the static on radio made it hard to be sure what was intended to be said.... the radio alphabet, ...Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta, Foxtrot, X-ray, Zulu etc.... was used to spell the intended word, insuring an exact transmission

now days I often use DOT COMercial to tell others about a web page on a site that zaps off site addresses so "afterdawn.com" becomes "afterdawn DOT COMercial" and the same can be done for the vulgarity

only way to stop it is to limit the phrases to be transmitted, like toontown does, but even there you could spell what you want to say using initials of the phrases, assuming the other person understands you are using initials to spell