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Comment by: hughjars (Nov 28, 2007 19:19)

Have they really?

We already know the financial people are looking into their over--stating their sales numbers.

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Nov 16th 2007

Earlier this week, we reported on an Associated Press story, which seemed to indicate that the PlayStation 3 was finally on a nice sales pace after the introduction of the $399 model. GameDaily BIZ and other media outlets were led to believe that Sony CEO Howard Stringer's 100,000 sold figure for the week ending November 11 was specific to the PS3. Apparently it was not.

Bloomberg.com found out from Sony Computer Entertainment corporate spokesperson Kimberly Otzman that the 100,000 actually was inclusive of all PlayStation consoles, which we would assume means PS2 and PSP as well – not so impressive.

We've followed up with Otzman for further clarification and to inquire about an actual PS3 specific sales total. In a release regarding the PS3's birthday earlier today, Sony did note that "since the availability of the new 40GB and 80GB PS3 models, sales have increased by 192% at the top 10 retailers in North America."

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http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/p...fter-all/18578/

There was a short lift in sales but these have now flattened off again
(and at all times since it's launch the PS3 has trailed the Wii & the XBox 360, firmly stuck in 3rd place).
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/...0_Down_NPD.html

Comment by: SProdigy (Nov 28, 2007 19:40)

Like I said, desperate parents are willing spend anything. Best Buy and other retailers make money off the accessories, so they are selling unofficial "bundle" packages with the console, and throwing in either lame accessories or clearance games to "sweeten" the deal.

I would hope I don't have to go into anymore detail regarding why they cost so much on eBay! ;-)

Comment by: hade (Nov 28, 2007 21:07)

as far as exclusive, ps3 has warhawk 360 has nothing that comes close to that. if that is not satisfying there is also rachet n clank tools of destruction and uncharted drake's fortune, again nothing of the like on the 360 ;)

oh and the ps3 outsold the wii for the 3rd straight week in japan in case anyone is interested.

Comment by: vinny13 (Nov 28, 2007 21:16)

"Uh oh, they're out of $300 WIIs!"

"What do we do?"

"I know! Let's buy a $500 PS3!"

"WTF?"

Now, where does this logic come into play?

Comment by: Riotard (Nov 28, 2007 21:26)

HAY GGUYS I'M BACK!

*dusts off the suit*
*clears throat*

Originally posted by hade:

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as far as exclusive, ps3 has warhawk 360 has nothing that comes close to that. if that is not satisfying there is also rachet n clank tools of destruction and uncharted drake's fortune, again nothing of the like on the 360 ;)

oh and the ps3 outsold the wii for the 3rd straight week in japan in case anyone is interested.

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Obviosuly you have never heard of shadowrun! Don't start with the whole ITS NOT EXCLUSIVE CAUSE ITS ON PC! SO it means more players will play it! Means a better gamming experiance!

There are reasons why ps3 sales ahve been up recently!
1. its chritsmas
2. wii sodl out, 360 stocks limited ps3 only one left
3. Parents hear ps3 and thik OMG that will be good!

Game wise
Resistance is NOT A GOOD FPS, its just a normal one! HALO 3 IS A GREAT FPS!

HEAVENLY SWORD is a VERY SHORT GAME with no online, GoW is an AMAZING game with ONLINE! YES ONLIEN MEANS YOU CAN PLAY IT MORE!

Warhawk Yes its good but wasn't the first, shadow run was both about equal

RPG's Well sry but what does the ps3 have atm, 360 has MASS EFFECT! WHICH IS JUST MASSIVE

Lets talk ports now!
GH3

ps3 version has faulty guitar and adapter, no backward compatibility with the ps2 ones, cost more then the 360 version

AC

PS3 verion runs with a higher frame lag, which often occurs, However the 360 version doesn't and it looks crisper aswell.

In conclusion, there is nothign to bet all YAY about, yes sale's figures ahve increased! THEY ARE STILL LOWER GLOBABLY than the 360 and wii. JUSt because japan are buyign it, doesn't mean every other country is! Look japan has less then 1/2million 360's yet the 360 is closly behind the wii!

Comment by: hade (Nov 28, 2007 22:33)

i think your name fits you just right. please don't compare shadowrun to warhawk, they are not even in the same league. ign gave shadownrun a 6.8, warhawk received a score of 8.8. i use ign because they are independent and are often fairly reliable on their reviews. so i guess if that is what you feel compares to warhawk, well you only solidified my point.

so i guess the price drop and introduction of the 40gig model has nothing to do with the increase in sales?

i could go on but its already a lost cause here.

off topic, i do own a 360 which ironically as it might be, will be sending it to M$ for repairs (waiting for my prepaid box) owned it since aug 20 something of 2007, 3 months n its broke. i own only one game, nhl 08. you might want to take into consideration the system failures the 360 faced as opposed to the ps3 which to me is a greater negative than lag or framerate issues. not really aware about the gh3 faulty guitar issues and such, but you could be right. don't own the game

Comment by: Riotard (Nov 28, 2007 23:02)

@ hade

Look after your 360 fewl!

I had a launch one, the ones which are ment to be faulty! Lasted till teh day of halo 3 launch! Its not ahrd to care for a machine, common sense give it air, stand it vertically and all that. It was only when i turned my horizontal it went RROD, cause half the airway is then blocked!

Anyway i highly doubt you do have a 360!

Um ok if your that upset with ur 360 and mass amount of games! Buy a ps3, experinace frame lag, and a $10 more per game compared to 360 games. Prepare for the lag of a ps3 online aswell as offlienw ith frame lag!

Anyway the IGN reviews are just rediculus! Resistance is defiantly an average game at best, i've played it my brother has a ps3! Halo 3 is in another universe compared to it!

As for Warhawk shadowrun, have you actualyl played these games? I have! they are about the same!

Reviews don't tell you how fun the game actually is, if a game has a playable adn fun ratign of 10 but has crap graphics and sounds, it mgiht get teh same as a game with crap playability and fun, but have good graphics and sound.

Shadowrun doesn't ahev the greatest of graphics is it fun to play as hell, so is warhawk.

Resistance isn't! GET HALO 3 and learn some gamign before you even comment on games, if all you have is one game you can't comment of other games if u've never played them!

Comment by: MrMexican (Nov 28, 2007 23:03)

riotard

console wise
stop talking lies speak the truth, it hurts that ur favorite console might loose even do it had a year head start. The wii is beating the 360 in console sales and the ps3 is doing really good even do its high price point.(Which really isn't expensive if you ask me)

Game wise

"Resistance is NOT A GOOD FPS, its just a normal one! HALO 3 IS A GREAT FPS! "

R u bling, need glasses, afraid why because resistance a launch title is so much equal(a little ups and downs here and there on both games) over a game that took over 3 years to make plus a team with and enless budget.


Im sorry both i own both systems and both games and to me halo3 was a let down it felt more like halo 2.5.
But hey that is my opinion and if u get mad about that u have a problem

Heavenly Sword and GoW ur right there both short (and i agree) but i still like heavenly sword more offline againts Gow. But like u said Gow has online and to me that is more for the money.

Offline Heavenly Sword was better
Online Gears Of War wins by default.

Shadow run is the only game i havent played so i cant sayanything about it but Warhawk to me was the better game compare to halo3.

Why i say that, its because to me they are about the same (online multiplayer at best) but what really got me into warhawk over halo3 was that it give you more for the money. For 40 dollars you can get it online or disc and you will have a good time playing againts people.

Or you can get the 60 dollar game and get a bluetooth headseth over a game that automatically cost you 60 dollars (plus xbox live fees if you need to pay them and eventually you will) just for the game. If you wanted some of the extra content you would pay a lot more.

Warhawk
$40.00 (plus tax) (hard copy, download)
$60.00 (plus tax) (hard copy with bluetooth headseat)
Online
$0.00

Halo3
$60.00 (plus tax) (hard copy)
Online
$9.99 (1month)
$20.00 (3 months)
$50.00 ( 1 year)

Guitar Hero 3 all systems had problems even the 360

AC havent played that game so i cant say

In conclusion

To ps3 owners it means the bigger the install base the more 3rd party support we get.

The more bill gates (microsoft) will do everything in there power to pay off as many developers as they can to make games for the 360 as either exclusive or timed exclusive.

Lost Planet being one of them, and Bioshock maybe coming to Ps3

and microsoft paying over 50 mill to rockstar to get gta4 on 360 as same day as ps3

To 360 owners it means if the ps3 wins in the console wars you can see another xbox720 or xbox900 reall soon and abandoning the 360 and make you belive its the better system for you to buy it.

You want living proof look at the original xbox and say it wont happen again. And the wii too if it fails (but i don't think so since its really cheap) it will abandon the system and the nintendo revolution would get released.

Comment by: NexGen76 (Nov 28, 2007 23:15)

Originally posted by MrMexican:

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riotard

console wise
stop talking lies speak the truth, it hurts that ur favorite console might loose even do it had a year head start. The wii is beating the 360 in console sales and the ps3 is doing really good even do its high price point.(Which really isn't expensive if you ask me)

Game wise

"Resistance is NOT A GOOD FPS, its just a normal one! HALO 3 IS A GREAT FPS! "

R u bling, need glasses, afraid why because resistance a launch title is so much equal(a little ups and downs here and there on both games) over a game that took over 3 years to make plus a team with and enless budget.


Im sorry both i own both systems and both games and to me halo3 was a let down it felt more like halo 2.5.
But hey that is my opinion and if u get mad about that u have a problem

Heavenly Sword and GoW ur right there both short (and i agree) but i still like heavenly sword more offline againts Gow. But like u said Gow has online and to me that is more for the money.

Offline Heavenly Sword was better
Online Gears Of War wins by default.

Shadow run is the only game i havent played so i cant sayanything about it but Warhawk to me was the better game compare to halo3.

Why i say that, its because to me they are about the same (online multiplayer at best) but what really got me into warhawk over halo3 was that it give you more for the money. For 40 dollars you can get it online or disc and you will have a good time playing againts people.

Or you can get the 60 dollar game and get a bluetooth headseth over a game that automatically cost you 60 dollars (plus xbox live fees if you need to pay them and eventually you will) just for the game. If you wanted some of the extra content you would pay a lot more.

Warhawk
$40.00 (plus tax) (hard copy, download)
$60.00 (plus tax) (hard copy with bluetooth headseat)
Online
$0.00

Halo3
$60.00 (plus tax) (hard copy)
Online
$9.99 (1month)
$20.00 (3 months)
$50.00 ( 1 year)

Guitar Hero 3 all systems had problems even the 360

AC havent played that game so i cant say

In conclusion

To ps3 owners it means the bigger the install base the more 3rd party support we get.

The more bill gates (microsoft) will do everything in there power to pay off as many developers as they can to make games for the 360 as either exclusive or timed exclusive.

Lost Planet being one of them, and Bioshock maybe coming to Ps3

and microsoft paying over 50 mill to rockstar to get gta4 on 360 as same day as ps3

To 360 owners it means if the ps3 wins in the console wars you can see another xbox720 or xbox900 reall soon and abandoning the 360 and make you belive its the better system for you to buy it.

You want living proof look at the original xbox and say it wont happen again. And the wii too if it fails (but i don't think so since its really cheap) it will abandon the system and the nintendo revolution would get released.

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Great Post.....


Hade..where you been Bro good to see you back on the boards.

Comment by: MrMexican (Nov 28, 2007 23:20)

Nextgen76

Thanks man i appreciate it

I just want to inform as many people of what would happen if ps3 wins over the 3.

I mean the future is never set in stone and anything can happen

Comment by: believr (Nov 28, 2007 23:44)

Im curious on which stores sell more Ps3s over the XB360's. I know in my small part of the mid-west, since the 399.99 price drop PS3s are selling horribly. Sure sales are up, but they now sell 1 for every 6 XB360's sold. Sure thats better then the 1/9 ratio we had during the summer, but nothing to get excited about. On the PS3 side, they have ratchet (great game), Heavenly sword (fun for the 6-8 hours of play), Lair (once you read how to review it, its not that bad- only for 6-8 hours), and Eye of Judgment (another great game but not for the masses) PS3 has a bluray player but does anyone know if its upgradeable to the v 1.1 splitscreen options?

Xb360s Halo 3 (some think great, I would say good), Bioshock (great game with a good story), Ace combat 6 - with flightstick (incredible), Project Gotham 4 (best racing sim with possible exception of Forza 2), Forza 2....see above. Sure you have to pay for online service which stinks, but at $8.00 American, its worth the benefits over the Wii or PSN.

Wii system is nice but not for all gamers, there are great games to be had, but few for the hardcore gamer. Ive had one since launch, and havent played it except for the times when friends stop by to see what the fuss is about, oh and Mario Galaxy (rated the best game of all time for a reason - www.gamerankings.com)

Comment by: CKhaleel (Nov 28, 2007 23:50)

YAY! Go PS3!

Comment by: binkie7 (Nov 29, 2007 01:44)

@Riotard

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no backward compatibility with the ps2 ones

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Not true - only the 40 gig PS3 doesn't have backwards compatibility.

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487

Comment by: DarkElder (Nov 29, 2007 01:47)

I like the reference to gamerankings.com . But let be honest with one another the 2nd ranked game of all times looks like Mario 64 ( user ratings put the game at a 8.8, which I tend to trust a little more because they are people who play the whole game. Some publishers only play a game for an hour or two and then want to leave work so they piece together a review ). Mario 65 is a kid game... gamers really don't play platform games. There is little to no replay value and things like " he's in space, Mario can perform mind-bending jumps unlike anything he's done before." has no appeal to me. None. All my friends with Wii's never use them anymore because the novelty has worn off. Now they are buying Xbox 360,PS3, and even PS2's because want a game with something with substance to it. I think this is a larger factor to why PS3 are hot right now

Comment by: glasssd (Nov 29, 2007 02:52)

glad to see more good news. I dont under stand why the Xbox boys deam it necessary to try to down play the news. All of the FUD slinging. I dont know what FUD looks like, but almost everyong here would be covered with it. I hope you have fun on your X-box and I will have fun on my PS3. Oh, the guitar problem is not a rock band guitar problem, the guitar hero guitar will not work with rock band. Rock band sticking it to you, wanting you to buy another guitar from them.

Comment by: vinny13 (Nov 29, 2007 03:12)

Originally posted by MrMexican:

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Lost Planet being one of them, and Bioshock maybe coming to Ps3

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Wow could those actually come to the PS3? I like Lost Planet and no so much Bioshock, but that is a pretty big game as they did they're fair share in advertising it... Most of my friend's have it, although it doesn't get much play.

It's all good news anyways :)

Comment by: tin23uk (Nov 29, 2007 04:24)

to anyone thinking of buying a ps3 i say wait until for 2 or 3 months after christmas and im sure you will see the prices rapidly drop, sony are keeping the prices high at this time of year due to christmas sales and will keep them up for a short time after christmas in order to cash in on those who saved up money they recieved for christmas. then comes tax time in the US they wont be in a rush to drop prices then but after that sales will slump because everyone willing to pay that kind of cash for a games console will already have a ps3. they will then be forced to drop the price tag to keep them selling.

Comment by: hade (Nov 29, 2007 04:40)

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Look after your 360 fewl!

I had a launch one, the ones which are ment to be faulty! Lasted till teh day of halo 3 launch! Its not ahrd to care for a machine, common sense give it air, stand it vertically and all that. It was only when i turned my horizontal it went RROD, cause half the airway is then blocked!

Anyway i highly doubt you do have a 360!

Um ok if your that upset with ur 360 and mass amount of games! Buy a ps3, experinace frame lag, and a $10 more per game compared to 360 games. Prepare for the lag of a ps3 online aswell as offlienw ith frame lag!

Anyway the IGN reviews are just rediculus! Resistance is defiantly an average game at best, i've played it my brother has a ps3! Halo 3 is in another universe compared to it!

As for Warhawk shadowrun, have you actualyl played these games? I have! they are about the same!

Reviews don't tell you how fun the game actually is, if a game has a playable adn fun ratign of 10 but has crap graphics and sounds, it mgiht get teh same as a game with crap playability and fun, but have good graphics and sound.

Shadowrun doesn't ahev the greatest of graphics is it fun to play as hell, so is warhawk.

Resistance isn't! GET HALO 3 and learn some gamign before you even comment on games, if all you have is one game you can't comment of other games if u've never played them!

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actually just for you i will post in my profile probably tomorrow or so my 46" sony xbr4, ps3(launch ps3) and 360. i will also post when the package comes, me boxing the POSbox. im very well aware of the gaming industry along with how to care for electronics so please take w/e advice you think you may have for me, and.....well you fill in the blank.

i've owned quite a few systems (ps3/360/ps2/nintendo/supernin/gameboy/atari/sega) and in all honesty the 360 is the first and only system that has ever shit itself on me. believe it or not but all systems mentioned above are still inworking order along with the games that i own for them.

i used ign because they are independent and if anything they certainly favor the 360. teamxbox is owned and run by ign, so...yeah

bioshock has been rumored time after time that it could be coming to the ps3, but it never did. lost planet however i am pretty confident is making its way to the system. not sure if it'll be lost planet or the 2nd installment of the game that comes out for the ps3, but i thought i did read awhile ago that it was pretty much confirmed that something is coming. maybe it was deadrising, i dunno something from capcom is.

oh and in case anyone is interested m$ is being sued for the 360s constant crashes/freezing when playing halo 3. the man claims that the game is a faulty product. some more info

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Back in September, we reported the “cannot read disk” error that a bunch of Halo 3 players were experiencing. We never received word from Microsoft about the issue and the potential amount of copies that could be affected. Nunez could certainly be one of players that got faulty disks.

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clearly m$ has problems

Comment by: ali2007 (Nov 29, 2007 11:49)

well i am sony fan only for their gaming console, but i think is wii better because they created the best product out their, the only problem wii has that it is not a hd product

Comment by: SProdigy (Nov 29, 2007 17:51)

Okay fanboys, for those of you that say that Nintendo is holding stock of the Wii to create "artificial" demand, here's an article for you stating just the opposite, and how they sold 350,000 consoles and MORE PRODUCT THIS WEEK THAN IN THEIR ENTIRE COMPANY'S HISTORY. Now, what bout the PS3 sales? :P

http://www.dailytech.com/Nintendo+Presid...article9807.htm

Comment by: spydah (Nov 29, 2007 18:10)

Originally posted by SProdigy:

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Okay fanboys, for those of you that say that Nintendo is holding stock of the Wii to create "artificial" demand, here's an article for you stating just the opposite, and how they sold 350,000 consoles and MORE PRODUCT THIS WEEK THAN IN THEIR ENTIRE COMPANY'S HISTORY. Now, what bout the PS3 sales? :P

http://www.dailytech.com/Nintendo+Presid...807.htm

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I kinda find that hard to believe about them selling 350,000 and more this week. Where are these consoles at. They definitely arent in any stores i know or other people who wanted them for their kids. Unless these are personal resales or Ebay sales i cant see that. Trying to find a Wii for sale in stores in like trying to find a single grain of sand in a 2 miles of dirt.

Comment by: wetsparks (Nov 30, 2007 05:51)

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Have they really?

We already know the financial people are looking into their over--stating their sales numbers.

Quote:

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Nov 16th 2007

Earlier this week, we reported on an Associated Press story, which seemed to indicate that the PlayStation 3 was finally on a nice sales pace after the introduction of the $399 model. GameDaily BIZ and other media outlets were led to believe that Sony CEO Howard Stringer's 100,000 sold figure for the week ending November 11 was specific to the PS3. Apparently it was not.

Bloomberg.com found out from Sony Computer Entertainment corporate spokesperson Kimberly Otzman that the 100,000 actually was inclusive of all PlayStation consoles, which we would assume means PS2 and PSP as well – not so impressive.

We've followed up with Otzman for further clarification and to inquire about an actual PS3 specific sales total. In a release regarding the PS3's birthday earlier today, Sony did note that "since the availability of the new 40GB and 80GB PS3 models, sales have increased by 192% at the top 10 retailers in North America."

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http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/p...fter-all/18578/

There was a short lift in sales but these have now flattened off again
(and at all times since it's launch the PS3 has trailed the Wii & the XBox 360, firmly stuck in 3rd place).
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/....html

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As I said in another thread where you posted that website hughjars,

Originally posted by hughjars favorite sony bashing website:

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[UPDATE] And round and round we go. Now we ARE back to 100,000 for PS3 only. Kimberly Otzman has contacted us to clarify the sales total. She said she was misquoted in Bloomberg.

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Either trust the website that Sony did in deed sell 100,000 PS3s or don't trust it and quit posting that website.

And spydah, I don't know where those consoles are coming from either, the Best Buy in my town advertises that they get 5 consoles a week, first come first serve.

Comment by: chino2875 (Dec 02, 2007 08:23)

Ya know, I guess I'm a stat to this. However, I just sold my PS3 for $100 cheaper just to get rid of it. I cannot believe I was so stupid to have paid money for a console that is supposed to be "so powerful" yet doesn't produce all of it's games to support 1080i/p. I was so disappointed. I was always a PS2 guy and never did buy an original XBOX. Maybe I will get another one in a few years when game developers actually give a crap about PS3 enough to invest the time to make games that support true hd gaming. I could go on and on but, I think I have made my point. Im sticking with the 360 for a while.

Comment by: borhan9 (Dec 20, 2007 23:22)

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Since the introduction of the stripped down, $399 40 GB model on November 2nd, sales of the Sony PlayStation 3 have tripled. The numbers however, also take into account Black Friday specials such as the one seen at Wal-Mart.

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Anyone could have told you that if the price drop the sales will go up. It's the nature of competition and all the rest of the business matters.

Comment by: Shegax (Dec 20, 2007 23:34)

Definitely artificial demand! Nintendo has no excuse they have been in the console business for YEARS!!! they should know about shortages, holidays etc. Not having enough Wiis during Christmas time is totally stupid, how many Christmases has Nintendo been seeing holiday season patters for years. There is no excuse in the world why they can't make enough. Artificial demand.....period