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Comment by: clethal (Oct 09, 2007 14:11)

I just don't see what the big deal is because if you were able to play PS2 games on PS3 im sure it will be something else everyone would be crying about Sony didn't do, I see it like this, if you have a ps2 already and you have a ps3 im sure you have that ps3 hooked to a HDTV with lots of connections, if not why have a ps3 with a crappy Tv? I know alot of underground gamers like full round compatibility or just able to play their older games on a newer system, but Sony is losing game sale so I guess they are trying to boost sales with no PS2 able to play on the PS3. I think the price is worth getting a PS3 that I might be doing now since the price has gone down enough......Oh btw go 360

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Oct 09, 2007 14:23)

Originally posted by clethal:

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I just don't see what the big deal is because if you were able to play PS2 games on PS3 im sure it will be something else everyone would be crying about Sony didn't do, I see it like this, if you have a ps2 already and you have a ps3 im sure you have that ps3 hooked to a HDTV with lots of connections, if not why have a ps3 with a crappy Tv? I know alot of underground gamers like full round compatibility or just able to play their older games on a newer system, but Sony is losing game sale so I guess they are trying to boost sales with no PS2 able to play on the PS3. I think the price is worth getting a PS3 that I might be doing now since the price has gone down enough......Oh btw go 360

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Sorry they innovated BWC to toss it out now is weak I still hate MS for screwing it up, there is no excuse either you have it or do not there is no in between....

Comment by: 24Lover (Oct 09, 2007 14:46)

Sony has sold over 100 million PS2 so whats the big deal? Your buying a PS3 not PS2,must people already own a PS2 so keeping it would be good but all the major titles are coming to PS3 not PS2.Some people on this board never had any intent to buy a PS3 from the start,thats why they are whining like a little girl.Do us all a favor if you no going to buy one just shut-up & don't post.There are a lot of people that are looking forward to buying this system like me.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Oct 09, 2007 14:55)

Originally posted by 24Lover:

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Sony has sold over 100 million PS2 so whats the big deal? Your buying a PS3 not PS2,must people already own a PS2 so keeping it would be good but all the major titles are coming to PS3 not PS2.Some people on this board never had any intent to buy a PS3 from the start,thats why they are whining like a little girl.Do us all a favor if you no going to buy one just shut-up & don't post.There are a lot of people that are looking forward to buying this system like me.

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Your spending 300+ to get a system that was made with quality and BWC in mind(MS 360 less so) oh sorry we are dropping features because we can, sorry no excuse.... I refuse to put up with the anal carnage corporate mentality, either they deliver or I boycott their sorry asses.

Comment by: 24Lover (Oct 09, 2007 15:02)

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Originally posted by 24Lover:

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Sony has sold over 100 million PS2 so whats the big deal? Your buying a PS3 not PS2,must people already own a PS2 so keeping it would be good but all the major titles are coming to PS3 not PS2.Some people on this board never had any intent to buy a PS3 from the start,thats why they are whining like a little girl.Do us all a favor if you no going to buy one just shut-up & don't post.There are a lot of people that are looking forward to buying this system like me.

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Your spending 300+ to get a system that was made with quality and BWC in mind(MS 360 less so) oh sorry we are dropping features because we can, sorry no excuse.... I refuse to put up with the anal carnage corporate mentality, either they deliver or I boycott their sorry asses.

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I understand you at lease you come with a valid reason but some people are totally over reacting Sony never said they was stopping BC.You can get a 80 gig version that has the software emulation.Which will be down to 499 when all the 60gig version are gone.

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As we have mentioned on several occasions, our engineering resources are now focused on developing new and innovative features and services for the PS3 and, as a result the 40GB model does not have backwards compatibility with PS2 titles.

The current PS3 system software and future updates will continue to support backwards compatibility for the current 60GB and 80GB models, and publishers can check their new PS2 titles to ensure they play on the 60GB and 80GB models.

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Comment by: clethal (Oct 09, 2007 15:02)

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Originally posted by 24Lover:

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Sony has sold over 100 million PS2 so whats the big deal? Your buying a PS3 not PS2,must people already own a PS2 so keeping it would be good but all the major titles are coming to PS3 not PS2.Some people on this board never had any intent to buy a PS3 from the start,thats why they are whining like a little girl.Do us all a favor if you no going to buy one just shut-up & don't post.There are a lot of people that are looking forward to buying this system like me.

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Your spending 300+ to get a system that was made with quality and BWC in mind(MS 360 less so) oh sorry we are dropping features because we can, sorry no excuse.... I refuse to put up with the anal carnage corporate mentality, either they deliver or I boycott their sorry asses.

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I have to say this you, will be boycotting for a longtime bc no company puts out a perfect product without someone crying over what it can or cant do, understand you have your own opinion but not all people worry about those problems they just wont buy or they will.....Its the take it or leave it

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Oct 09, 2007 15:09)

24Lover/clethal


I just wonder if you realize the sht they are pulling over peoples eyes over this...its as assnie and insane as the statemeant "the PS3 is probably to cheap".... only its gone from a statement to a goal and one almost met....

Comment by: clethal (Oct 09, 2007 15:22)

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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24Lover/clethal


I just wonder if you realize the sht they are pulling over peoples eyes over this...its as assnie and insane as the state meant the PS3 is probably to cheap.... only its gone from a statement to a goal and one almost met....

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Zippydsm I understand what you are saying but for some of the people that just dont care about ps2 able to play on ps3 and only worry about price this makes me or anyone else prephaps now buy one, me personally havent had ps2 since the first xbox so I have no reason for playing ps2 games on ps3.....Companies do stuff like this all the time like laser disc then dvd and now blu ray and HD dvds, we as consumers will either buy it or to say the hell with it that is our choice. It depends on how may people will buy it to see how the company will answer those demands.....Sony may well be making a big mistake but that a gamble these companies make. I agree on what you are saying and I think Sony should have never made a damn blu ray player in a game console to sell movies and not games. Here they want people to buy games but they are adding spiderman 3 with a gaming console? Least M$ added kin kong if you bought the HD player.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Oct 09, 2007 15:28)

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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24Lover/clethal


I just wonder if you realize the sht they are pulling over peoples eyes over this...its as assnie and insane as the state meant the PS3 is probably to cheap.... only its gone from a statement to a goal and one almost met....

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Zippydsm I understand what you are saying but for some of the people that just dont care about ps2 able to play on ps3 and only worry about price this makes me or anyone else prephaps now buy one, me personally havent had ps2 since the first xbox so I have no reason for playing ps2 games on ps3.....Companies do stuff like this all the time like laser disc then dvd and now blu ray and HD dvds, we as consumers will either buy it or to say the hell with it that is our choice. It depends on how may people will buy it to see how the company will answer those demands.....Sony may well be making a big mistake but that a gamble these companies make. I agree on what you are saying and I think Sony should have never made a damn blu ray player in a game console to sell movies and not games. Here they want people to buy games but they are adding spiderman 3 with a gaming console? Least M$ added kin kong if you bought the HD player.

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Then why not sale it for tis real value at 250 and not at a bloated rate? sorry price V cost this sucks beyond all else the MS hardware issues are almost forgivable compared to this nonsense.

Comment by: OhCrap (Oct 09, 2007 16:09)

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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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24Lover/clethal


I just wonder if you realize the sht they are pulling over peoples eyes over this...its as assnie and insane as the state meant the PS3 is probably to cheap.... only its gone from a statement to a goal and one almost met....

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Zippydsm I understand what you are saying but for some of the people that just dont care about ps2 able to play on ps3 and only worry about price this makes me or anyone else prephaps now buy one, me personally havent had ps2 since the first xbox so I have no reason for playing ps2 games on ps3.....Companies do stuff like this all the time like laser disc then dvd and now blu ray and HD dvds, we as consumers will either buy it or to say the hell with it that is our choice. It depends on how may people will buy it to see how the company will answer those demands.....Sony may well be making a big mistake but that a gamble these companies make. I agree on what you are saying and I think Sony should have never made a damn blu ray player in a game console to sell movies and not games. Here they want people to buy games but they are adding spiderman 3 with a gaming console? Least M$ added kin kong if you bought the HD player.

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Then why not sale it for tis real value at 250 and not at a bloated rate? sorry price V cost this sucks beyond all else the MS hardware issues are almost forgivable compared to this nonsense.

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You can't even buy a standalone HDDVD player for 250 much less a BD Player and gaming system combined. I'm not arguing the format war here I'm just saying cost wise 400 ain't bad.

Comment by: hughjars (Oct 09, 2007 16:30)

Originally posted by 24Lover:

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You can get a 80 gig version that has the software emulation.Which will be down to 499 when all the 60gig version are gone.

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- It's $600 right now.

There is nothing official to be said on what will happen to the price except for this repeated fanclub rumour that it might be reduced later.

But that's all it is, mere rumour (wishful 'thinking'?) and no matter how often they repeat it it does not make it fact.

Originally posted by OhCrap:

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You can't even buy a standalone HDDVD player for 250

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- Er, yes you can.

The Toshiba HD A2 HD DVD stand-alone is currently on sale for $205 on Amazon USA.

Comment by: hughjars (Oct 09, 2007 16:30)

BTW this is disputed news too.

There are several sites saying Sony have no plans to bring the 40gb PS3 to the USA atm.

Comment by: djeazyg (Oct 09, 2007 16:55)

Here we go again.... Bash, Bash, Bash. This is all RUMERS that you've got your pantys in a knot over. Nobody knows what Sony is going to do untill they do it. Not even the fan club. You guys really need a hobby. You all could try playing video games. Works for me. Oh... Sorry... I see your too busy complaining about them to play them.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Oct 09, 2007 17:06)

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Originally posted by 24Lover:

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You can get a 80 gig version that has the software emulation.Which will be down to 499 when all the 60gig version are gone.

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- It's $600 right now.

There is nothing official to be said on what will happen to the price except for this repeated fanclub rumour that it might be reduced later.

But that's all it is, mere rumour (wishful 'thinking'?) and no matter how often they repeat it it does not make it fact.

Originally posted by OhCrap:

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You can't even buy a standalone HDDVD player for 250

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- Er, yes you can.

The Toshiba HD A2 HD DVD stand-alone is currently on sale for $205 on Amazon USA.

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Well teh fact of the matter is we are gettign a 400-500 range PS3 and its reasonable to see that it will be the 40 no BWC PS3,since its a fact europe got the no hardware BWC PS3 first, if they can sale well at a higher price and lower features there they can do it anywhere it seems.....

Comment by: OhCrap (Oct 09, 2007 17:49)

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Originally posted by 24Lover:

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You can get a 80 gig version that has the software emulation.Which will be down to 499 when all the 60gig version are gone.

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- It's $600 right now.

There is nothing official to be said on what will happen to the price except for this repeated fanclub rumour that it might be reduced later.

But that's all it is, mere rumour (wishful 'thinking'?) and no matter how often they repeat it it does not make it fact.

Originally posted by OhCrap:

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You can't even buy a standalone HDDVD player for 250

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- Er, yes you can.

The Toshiba HD A2 HD DVD stand-alone is currently on sale for $205 on Amazon USA.

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Actually its listed at 229.88 on amazon and in the description it doesn't say it includes a 7th gen hd gaming system. Go figure. So for the money 400 still ain't bad.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Oct 09, 2007 18:00)

and for about 450 you can hobble together a 360 with a HDVD player :P

I want to see better deals and better quality from both,both Sony and MS are banging the deal mule pretty hard... MS needs to finish up with the hardware issues open up the HDD sony needs to quit dckign with the consumer and release a solid PS3(same as the other PS3 only smaller HDD) unit that dose not cost a mint(under 500).

Comment by: hughjars (Oct 09, 2007 19:31)

Originally posted by OhCrap:

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Actually its listed at 229.88 on amazon

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- Don't just look at the Amazon supply, it's another 2 suppliers listing them as brand new further down the page.
'wsuraptor' and 'nineriver' both @ $207.
You can even get refurbs for $187.

But today it's updated up a couple of points to $207, not $205.

Either way it's nothing like $250.

Originally posted by OhCrap:

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and in the description it doesn't say it includes a 7th gen hd gaming system.

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- Er, what's that got to do with anything.

Your point was about an HD DVD stand-alone's price.

You're the one who brought this up & said you couldn't get an HD DVD stand-alone for $250.

You can.

So why now bring some silly comment about the PS3 into this?

.....and what's the point of it seeing as how it's got bu*ger all in the way of games?

Originally posted by OhCrap:

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So for the money 400 still ain't bad.

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- We're all entittled to our opinions.

If you think the basic version of 'the game console with no games' is worth £299/$400 then rock on.

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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and for about 450 you can hobble together a 360 with a HDVD player

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- Are you sure?

Cos if you're going 'bargain basement on one you surely ought to on the other.
IIRC the new HDMI 'Arcade' 360 & the XBox 360 HD DVD add-on don't come to $450.

Comment by: SProdigy (Oct 10, 2007 10:30)

This just in: New Sony PS3 Holiday package with Betamax and 5.25 Floppy drives (so you can store all your Kilobytes of data and watch the latest Hollywood flicks... as late as 1984!) It also runs on an Intel 486DX2! (With floating point instructions!) The system will also come with an updated pack-in of an Atari classic, E.T.!

To further cut costs, Sony representatives have stated that this new version of the PS3 will also not include USB ports, WiFi, ethernet ports or any hardware that will allow the system to connect to the outside world. HDMI, Component, S-Video and Composite connections were also left out of the equation as the system will need an RF adapter (sold separately) to connect to your SDTV.

A new version of the DualShock controller supporting rumble will be packaged with the system, though Sony was mum on how it will connect to the console. (Our sources say that the cord is not detachable from the PS3.)

Sony is already filling orders from retailers, and hopes to have this bundle on store shelves before the holiday season. Aptly named the "Playstation Home" bundle, (you can only play this version at "home") Sony is targeting the Xbox Arcade bundle and Nintendo Wii with an entry price of $250.

Comment by: emugamer (Oct 10, 2007 12:28)

PS2 games look like crap on a high def television. Regardless of the [sarcastic]upscaling[/sarcastic] that can be done. And you really can't fully appreciate a PS3 game on a standard television. I'm sure that Sony realizes that more and more homes will be going the way of HDTV as time passes. People will realize that the backwards compatibility will look like garbage and not even care anymore. The PS3 is a high def piece of hardware made for high def viewing. Who cares if there are less USB ports? Unless somwhere down the line they are used for a popular game, and for some reason, Sony fails to remember that they cut out some ports and a lot of people would not be able to play the game.

Comment by: spydah (Oct 11, 2007 09:10)

Originally posted by djeazyg:

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Here we go again.... Bash, Bash, Bash. This is all RUMERS that you've got your pantys in a knot over. Nobody knows what Sony is going to do untill they do it. Not even the fan club. You guys really need a hobby. You all could try playing video games. Works for me. Oh... Sorry... I see your too busy complaining about them to play them.

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I couldnt agree with you any more right now. I look at it like this if you hate any of these companies so bad why in the hell would you even comment on it. Its really stupid to get bent out of shape over something you will never buy so whats the whole point of complaining if your not interested in what they offer?

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Oct 11, 2007 09:16)

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Originally posted by djeazyg:

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Here we go again.... Bash, Bash, Bash. This is all RUMERS that you've got your pantys in a knot over. Nobody knows what Sony is going to do untill they do it. Not even the fan club. You guys really need a hobby. You all could try playing video games. Works for me. Oh... Sorry... I see your too busy complaining about them to play them.

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I couldnt agree with you any more right now. I look at it like this if you hate any of these companies so bad why in the hell would you even comment on it. Its really stupid to get bent out of shape over something you will never buy so whats the whole point of complaining if your not interested in what they offer?

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I wouldn't say that the 360 is looking to be buyable early mid next year,I dunno when sony will raise from teh ashes it keeps burning itself to much....

Comment by: CODEWERKS (Oct 14, 2007 06:13)

why not just get any PS3 and get a large capacity sata notebook hd? i have no ideas as how to tramsfer data from an existing PS3 hd to a high capacity one, but before i even turned on my new PS3 i installed a 160gb. what i fear is that in one of the upcoming mandatory updates we will all loose backward compatability.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Oct 14, 2007 14:24)

Originally posted by CODEWERKS:

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why not just get any PS3 and get a large capacity sata notebook hd? i have no ideas as how to tramsfer data from an existing PS3 hd to a high capacity one, but before i even turned on my new PS3 i installed a 160gb. what i fear is that in one of the upcoming mandatory updates we will all loose backward compatability.

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Sony is back tracking on what the PS3 should be, I can easily see them limiting HDD size and linking it to a upgrade kit or worse yet a premium PSN plan, sony needs to step off the throats users befor its to late.

Comment by: borhan9 (Oct 18, 2007 21:40)

Nothing new just your average move around the world.

Comment by: xhardc0re (Oct 23, 2007 17:14)

Originally posted by SProdigy:

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This just in: New Sony PS3 Holiday package with Betamax and 5.25 Floppy drives (so you can store all your Kilobytes of data and watch the latest Hollywood flicks... as late as 1984!) It also runs on an Intel 486DX2! (With floating point instructions!) The system will also come with an updated pack-in of an Atari classic, E.T.!

To further cut costs, Sony representatives have stated that this new version of the PS3 will also not include USB ports, WiFi, ethernet ports or any hardware that will allow the system to connect to the outside world. HDMI, Component, S-Video and Composite connections were also left out of the equation as the system will need an RF adapter (sold separately) to connect to your SDTV.

A new version of the DualShock controller supporting rumble will be packaged with the system, though Sony was mum on how it will connect to the console. (Our sources say that the cord is not detachable from the PS3.)

Sony is already filling orders from retailers, and hopes to have this bundle on store shelves before the holiday season. Aptly named the "Playstation Home" bundle, (you can only play this version at "home") Sony is targeting the Xbox Arcade bundle and Nintendo Wii with an entry price of $250.

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LOL this system should have been the base model in the first place. STILL overprice though :o

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