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Comment by: vinny13 (Jul 15, 2007 01:34)

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08 is going to be a interesting year on many fronts.

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I hope so! This year was so boring with entertainment! The movies so far have been crap(although Live Free or Die Hard was pretty good). Can't wait for the Simpsons Movie though... that looks ausome.

Comment by: webe123 (Jul 15, 2007 01:35)

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no one is spliting hairs. SONY BGM has no say in SONY. they are different branches ran by different people. they have a president for gaming and music ect.

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What DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MAKE? Thjey ARE part of the same corporation and the same mindset for crying out loud....you ARE splitting hairs weather or not you want to admit it.

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actually if you own an HDTV and seen the difference between blu-ray 1080p and actual tv. ull want a HD drive in ur console. and seeing how movies suck now a days what with people downloading everything and pissing off the mpaa. i rather just rent. and the blockbuster at my house only carries blu ray. i think thats a good choice. if you want hd dvd with ur xbox you have to buy the add on. which hasnt sold very well. because who wants to pay 200 extra dollars.. the xbox is supposed to be elite. guess not.

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Oh, give me a BREAK! So you are saying that people actually think like YOU do...that some how they will actually think it is a bargain to get this because of increased featuures? Got news for you...they DON'T! They are thinking in terms of price...NOT blue ray, bigger hard drives or any other high tech stuff you want to say is so important. Why do you think the wii is outselling BOTH ps3 AND xbox 360? And I guess Sony ps3 is NOT the elite either.

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you would feel ripped off. but you didn't buy one. so stfu. no one told you to buy one right away. whoever got one early.. either waited in a line at launch or paid extra on ebay. meaning they wanted the ps3 bad enough to have the 1st gen models. they didn't have to do a price cut. and they didn't have to release a new 80 gig. which they havent yet. so stop complaining and get one now.. there are guides to get a 720gig HD on ur ps3. so if ur seriously being a girl about it. then google it. and stop crying. if you guys were going to wait until 2008 and 2009 to get one. then maybe there will be another price drop. so get your money correct and wait it out. because half of you guys were going to wait anyways. or i think its xbox fanboys just saying things to put the ps3 down. which makes no sense. they are both good consoles. and if its about the next gen disc. then maybe we already have a winner.

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Why don't YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP? If you think that I have to own a ps3 or 360 to be able to comment on it, you have problems. Listen, dumbass, if I didn't keep UP with the news of the 360 or the playstation 3, I would not know what to expect when I bought one!What features there are, when is the best time to buy for a price, etc. If you think I should just shut up about it because I have a different opinion than yours, your nuts. And I would probably end up getting ripped off when I did buy one, if I went by your stupid reasoning.

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you don't know anything. you dont know what the new 80 gig will include. and it includes a 60 dollar game. its okay you dont understand the concept. just sit there and pretend to be smart.

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Oh, and you know EVERYTHING? That's nice. I don't think you know SHIT! In the first place, you are some corporate advertisment fool that thinks everyone should, fall for a company line. And think like you do! Sorry, but it ain't happening.

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I AM NOT BASHING THE OTHER CONSOLES FOR THOSE WHOM ARE READING IMPAIRED[/b] the 360 had its slow year and a half with games and so far the Wii doesnt have anything out also. Its all a waiting game for what you want. Sony made a move to help their sales I dont have beef with that i just give props when props are due.

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But you DO seem to want others to agree with what you are saying even if some of it is wrong. I have no beef with either Sony or Microsoft, but when Sony starts to pull stuff like they are and thenb act like it is a bargain, I am gonna call them on it! Weather or not some people on here like it or not.

Comment by: webe123 (Jul 15, 2007 01:38)

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lots of opinions, but so far i only see one poster that is just ignorant. thats not bad.

Other than webe, there are some valid points

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Well the same could be said of YOU!

Comment by: vinny13 (Jul 15, 2007 01:56)

Everyone just hates Sony because they just do.

It's like this picture I saw. On one half, it was the iPhone with the Apple symbol on it, and on the other half was the exact same iPhone but with Sony instead of the Apple symbol. Comments on the Sony side would be things like overpiced, there are things better that are cheaper, and so on. But on the other side with the Apple symbol, the comments were things like gotta have and the coolest thing ever, ect.

Is that what people have become?Pure fanboys just because of a name, where as something else that is the exact same but with a different brand name is completely horrid? What is wrong with some of you people is all I want to know.

Comment by: emugamer (Jul 15, 2007 08:15)

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Everyone just hates Sony because they just do.

It's like this picture I saw. On one half, it was the iPhone with the Apple symbol on it, and on the other half was the exact same iPhone but with Sony instead of the Apple symbol. Comments on the Sony side would be things like overpiced, there are things better that are cheaper, and so on. But on the other side with the Apple symbol, the comments were things like gotta have and the coolest thing ever, ect.

Is that what people have become?Pure fanboys just because of a name, where as something else that is the exact same but with a different brand name is completely horrid? What is wrong with some of you people is all I want to know.

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It's all about branding your name. Creating an image. Sony has been making lots of blunders in the marketing department. So it makes them an easy target for fanboys. That really applies to any brand. Slip up too many times, and the fanboys attack!

Comment by: Riotard (Jul 15, 2007 10:08)

You can see this was cleverly planned, with the M$ screwup news, but still Europe is actually well and truely lost now to SOny, it use to be a major part of the PS2 reign, but with the stupid price for it here, and it being late, and other factors, and the 360 and wii just beign so much cheaper, and having a great deal of better games. This is a smart move taht it is only for America. But i fear that they are already out of this consol war, with the stupid price. The even more stupid thing is thta the consol will not get any perminate lower cost cuts because it is already the cheapest BR player

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 15, 2007 13:08)

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You can see this was cleverly planned, with the M$ screwup news, but still Europe is actually well and truely lost now to SOny, it use to be a major part of the PS2 reign, but with the stupid price for it here, and it being late, and other factors, and the 360 and wii just beign so much cheaper, and having a great deal of better games. This is a smart move taht it is only for America. But i fear that they are already out of this consol war, with the stupid price. The even more stupid thing is thta the consol will not get any perminate lower cost cuts because it is already the cheapest BR player

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This is my whole point with the PS3,world wide its not doing so well why pricing and it being tardy sony is screwing up not just once or twice like MS but its nearly every other thing, all they are doign is damaging the brand for what? to save money in the short run?

FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A.

Comment by: SProdigy (Jul 15, 2007 21:04)

The BWC update for 360 was announced at E3, and is on Major Nelson's blog. As I understand it, the updates are already out there to play these games.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 15, 2007 22:52)

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The BWC update for 360 was announced at E3, and is on Major Nelson's blog. As I understand it, the updates are already out there to play these games.

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http://www.majornelson.com/archive/2007/...pat-update.aspx

neat,its good to see its not dropped yet, I hope they keep whacking away at it,even tho they (like sony) have saids its not important to them.

FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A.

Comment by: Da0ne83 (Jul 16, 2007 09:46)

Originally posted by Riotard:

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The even more stupid thing is thta the consol will not get any perminate lower cost cuts because it is already the cheapest BR player

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http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/10402.cfm

walmart has the cheapest br player now

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 16, 2007 10:57)

Found something that should add to the confusion

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/07/1...-clarification/


the PS3 blog (witch everyone should take with a grain of salt considering sonys PR machine) says its not a clearance price drop but the 80GB units will have it too.

Comment by: NexGen76 (Jul 17, 2007 13:22)

Actual im willing to bet this was Sony plan to combat the 360 price drop coming this holiday season.Sony going to sell the 80 gig ver for 400 i heard from some place but on top of that your going to get Motorstorm & the 2 new rumble controllers.I'm willing to bet they going to do this this coming holiday season.If they do it would kill 360 because you getting even more value for your dollars than the 360.

Comment by: borhan9 (Jul 17, 2007 20:40)

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The price cut for the 60GB PS3 was never intended to be a permanent cut for the product; it was only intended to clear out stock for the new version to be sold at the old price.

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And there we are the catch present right in the article.

Comment by: core2kid (Jul 20, 2007 17:52)

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the EE chip is 30-50$ a small price for better out of the box BWC support

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Actually, PS3 isnt that good with BWC anyways because you need the PS3 controllers or the control adapters and the memory card adapters to transfer saved data. I personally would just use the PS2 for PS2 and PS1 games anyways, its a console that works, is cheap and doesn't act as a heater.

Comment by: overkill (Jul 21, 2007 00:37)

I haven't gotten the PS3 yet,but I want to take advantage of this price drop.
My question is this, I this new chip going to better or is the current system out now better?

Should I buy now or just wait?

Comment by: core2kid (Jul 21, 2007 11:56)

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I haven't gotten the PS3 yet,but I want to take advantage of this price drop.
My question is this, I this new chip going to better or is the current system out now better?

Should I buy now or just wait?

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I am a big PlayStation fan and I usually don't talk bad about the systems but I think Sony just screwed up with the PS3. Backwards compatibility sucks because you need special controllers and memory card adapters (I noticed PS3 controllers analog stick turning isn't good with PS1 games on the game Crash Team Racing). Just wait for it, my friend bought one with the price drop and his was manufactured in 2006 with firmware 1.51. They aren't selling that well. PS3 60GBs should be on store shelves till Christmas.

Comment by: nobrainer (Jul 21, 2007 13:08)

all sieg heil, sony pr and price fixing

how can they be selling the 80gig for $599 when it costs less to make than the 60gig as the new "improved" ps3 has had the emotion engine removed screwing backwards compatibility on your side of the pond now.

is there any depths that sony pr won't sink to?

you have David Reeves stating that the jump from the 60 to 80 gig is too little then you have the other monkey phil harrison saying that the 80gig in the us is great for heavy downloaders:

Great BBC Video Of Phil Monkey Harison CLICK TO WATCH!

saying how they lower the cost to be competitive is the way to go and this is apparently the "way to go" and no mention of the removal of US 80gig hardware the emotion engine so now American can suffer the glitches we suffer in Europe now.

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“We believe added value works in the PAL territories. We don't think it's necessary to reduce the price. We think that consumers want added value in Europe. We think it's the right decision."

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added value would have been full backwards compatibility I'm afraid not less hardware for a higher cost, so now you offer games that will soon be platinum and two controllers that will become obsolete very soon as the new ones are just around the corner.

http://www.scee.presscentre.com/Content/...31&NewsAreaID=2

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Rather than concentrate on PS2 backwards compatibility, in the future, company resources will be increasingly focused on developing new games and entertainment features exclusively for PS3

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and they stood to their word as backwards compatibility sucks and the updates are no more so enjoy poor support america, btw for doubters here is the bc list: http://faq.eu.playstation.com/bc/ sony's idea of "working" is that the game loads on a ps3.

i'm sure everyone remembers http://lik-sang.com/ and the sony price fixing lawyers!

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 21, 2007 21:09)

nobrainer

I think sony is goign to do a bundle set 2 games 2 controllers for the 80 GB no EEchip PS3 it boggles the mind tho if they released it minus the extras at a 350-450 price point sony would have fing won.

Sony is full of sht heads,the PS3 needs to be under 500USD world wide to sale well,keep damaging your brand and wasting billions when a lower price would have made you loss 50-70% less...

Comment by: sushiserv (Jul 21, 2007 22:02)

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as for sony no point in getting it till it hits 300 or has 10 A++++ games on it.

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What about A+++-?

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since they have trouble making a A class that dose not get on my nerves....... :P

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i think its a good move for sony.. people complain it was too expensive, so they cut the price and also got rid of their old units.

they have said over and over that they cant afford to cut the price much. so they are just reiterating that statement. The price cuts have to be temporary, but they made them to please the consumer. temporary is still better than nothing right?

people complain about not getting a price cut. then sony says hey can offer a temprary one, and people complain even more?

i hate complainers.

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And I hate people that don't understand that if they do no lower the price and get it in homes devs and games will leave it like a sinking ship,or have you not been paying any attention to the rats leaving?


they are much better off to take 2 billion in losses head on than to wait it out and lose rep and games to other systems than to implode on self or to be forced out,now is not a time to be blind.

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I agree with jetyi, not you. Im the bloody comsumer, and i want a lower price. This benefits ME which is what i care about at hte this point and not THEM who are already raking in the cash.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jul 21, 2007 22:27)

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as for sony no point in getting it till it hits 300 or has 10 A++++ games on it.

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What about A+++-?

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since they have trouble making a A class that dose not get on my nerves....... :P

Originally posted by jetyi83:

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i think its a good move for sony.. people complain it was too expensive, so they cut the price and also got rid of their old units.

they have said over and over that they cant afford to cut the price much. so they are just reiterating that statement. The price cuts have to be temporary, but they made them to please the consumer. temporary is still better than nothing right?

people complain about not getting a price cut. then sony says hey can offer a temprary one, and people complain even more?

i hate complainers.

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And I hate people that don't understand that if they do no lower the price and get it in homes devs and games will leave it like a sinking ship,or have you not been paying any attention to the rats leaving?


they are much better off to take 2 billion in losses head on than to wait it out and lose rep and games to other systems than to implode on self or to be forced out,now is not a time to be blind.

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I agree with jetyi, not you. Im the bloody comsumer, and i want a lower price. This benefits ME which is what i care about at hte this point and not THEM who are already raking in the cash.

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My point has always been over 500 is to much to sale the system well,at 500 it would do better at 400 it would do greatly(potentially out selling the WII),sony should have known better than to sale it for more than 500USD world wide.

with the 80GB unit going back up to 600 I don't think 2 games and 2 controllers would help it much,but at least its a start,sony really needs a solid core unit at 400$(no wifi/card reader/ect) ,altho at this point and time their bed is made they would do better to just go for 400-450 put it there and don't move the price for 2 or 3 years...

FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A.

Comment by: goz83 (Jul 22, 2007 10:59)

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as for sony no point in getting it till it hits 300 or has 10 A++++ games on it.

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since they have trouble making a A class that dose not get on my nerves....... :P

Originally posted by jetyi83:

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i think its a good move for sony.. people complain it was too expensive, so they cut the price and also got rid of their old units.


I would say you guys in the states are very lucky with the price you pay for the PS3. Here in Ireland we have to shell out the equivalent of $950+ and we get a shitty game and a controller. Also our price cut isn't due until november.

they have said over and over that they cant afford to cut the price much. so they are just reiterating that statement. The price cuts have to be temporary, but they made them to please the consumer. temporary is still better than nothing right?

people complain about not getting a price cut. then sony says hey can offer a temprary one, and people complain even more?

i hate complainers.

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And I hate people that don't understand that if they do no lower the price and get it in homes devs and games will leave it like a sinking ship,or have you not been paying any attention to the rats leaving?


they are much better off to take 2 billion in losses head on than to wait it out and lose rep and games to other systems than to implode on self or to be forced out,now is not a time to be blind.

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I agree with jetyi, not you. Im the bloody comsumer, and i want a lower price. This benefits ME which is what i care about at hte this point and not THEM who are already raking in the cash.

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My point has always been over 500 is to much to sale the system well,at 500 it would do better at 400 it would do greatly(potentially out selling the WII),sony should have known better than to sale it for more than 500USD world wide.

with the 80GB unit going back up to 600 I don't think 2 games and 2 controllers would help it much,but at least its a start,sony really needs a solid core unit at 400$(no wifi/card reader/ect) ,altho at this point and time their bed is made they would do better to just go for 400-450 put it there and don't move the price for 2 or 3 years...

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Comment by: Andrew691 (Jul 24, 2007 06:46)

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I am a big PlayStation fan and I usually don't talk bad about the systems but I think Sony just screwed up with the PS3. Backwards compatibility sucks because you need special controllers and memory card adapters (I noticed PS3 controllers analog stick turning isn't good with PS1 games on the game Crash Team Racing). Just wait for it, my friend bought one with the price drop and his was manufactured in 2006 with firmware 1.51. They aren't selling that well. PS3 60GBs should be on store shelves till Christmas.

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Backwards compatibility is far from perfect but they've done a good job on it so far I've tried 30+ PS2 games and more than that in PS1 games and all have worked flawlessly most of which a major selling games. Theres no "special controllers" needed and the MC adapters are only needed if you want to transfer files from old memory cards. And I personally think that the handling of CTR (great game BTW) is better on the PS3, it feels more realistic (not really the word Im after but...)

Another thing I dont get is people that are bitching about the fact that instead of a price drop they are doing bundle deals, what the hell is the difference? So you people would prefer to pay for every individual item, than get a deal that has a few $$ off each item making it overall cheaper? And as for the people going on about the price, seriously, is there anything that you wouldnt want cheaper? people always want something for nothing, and the fact that Sony are taking a hit for every system sold why cant they try save them selves a bit of cash?
Adding a game to a system bundle would be bloody cheap for them to do, would cost less than $1 to press the disc and some small extra amount for the dev's. Thats where they should try saving money, not dropping hardware.

Comment by: emugamer (Jul 24, 2007 12:37)

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Another thing I dont get is people that are bitching about the fact that instead of a price drop they are doing bundle deals, what the hell is the difference? So you people would prefer to pay for every individual item, than get a deal that has a few $$ off each item making it overall cheaper? And as for the people going on about the price, seriously, is there anything that you wouldnt want cheaper? people always want something for nothing, and the fact that Sony are taking a hit for every system sold why cant they try save them selves a bit of cash?
Adding a game to a system bundle would be bloody cheap for them to do, would cost less than $1 to press the disc and some small extra amount for the dev's. Thats where they should try saving money, not dropping hardware.

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Agreed. What is the difference? A person is not going to buy a console with no games. All Sony is doing is minimizing their profit loss by shifting things around.

Comment by: nobrainer (Jul 24, 2007 16:07)

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Another thing I dont get is people that are bitching about the fact that instead of a price drop they are doing bundle deals, what the hell is the difference? So you people would prefer to pay for every individual item, than get a deal that has a few $$ off each item making it overall cheaper? And as for the people going on about the price, seriously, is there anything that you wouldnt want cheaper? people always want something for nothing, and the fact that Sony are taking a hit for every system sold why cant they try save them selves a bit of cash?
Adding a game to a system bundle would be bloody cheap for them to do, would cost less than $1 to press the disc and some small extra amount for the dev's. Thats where they should try saving money, not dropping hardware.

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Agreed. What is the difference? A person is not going to buy a console with no games. All Sony is doing is minimizing their profit loss by shifting things around.

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maybe, you don't want two soon to be outdated controllers and limited on games choice maybe ppl want to pick up a ps3 as cheap as possible and have a choice of games or second hand/rental games and not be tied into a pathetic relaunch bundle!

btw japan has had 2 price cuts and america 1 but euro has not had any cut in the already high price of the ps3, sony need to do something to tempt 3rd party developers and a bigger userbase is the way to do this, and as in my previous post with the video link of phil explaining that a price cut is sony being loyal to gamers and offering them the lowest price of the latest technology, but it seems they are far from loyal to europe yet again!

remember http://www.lik-sang.com/ and sony's price fixing in europe?

Comment by: sushiserv (Jul 25, 2007 17:38)

i miss lik-sang
its a damn shame they are gone :<