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Comment by: krj15489 (Mar 26, 2007 22:10)

thats sweet. i think that 120 gb hard drive would be nice. sucks that it will be 479

Comment by: Pop_Smith (Mar 26, 2007 22:30)

Other then this is a whole new 'Box its too bad M$ doesn't have any sort of 'Upgrade' path available. Somewhere like your local GameStop might though. *Crosses Fingers*

I am assuming this comes with the same stuff as the "XBox "Pro" but with the extra new goodies. If that is the case then $480 isn't a bad price tag at all. Compared to the $400 the "Pro" version is now.

Plus, from what I know, HDMI means true HDTV (at 1080p). In my opinion just the 120GB is worth the extra $80 but to add HDMI is just a bonus. I don't remember what IPTV is, probably some Internet TV made to give M$ more money but who cares? :p

Comment by: dikdimond (Mar 26, 2007 22:52)

Don't forget that with the proc at 65nm the 360 will run cooler as well. Def worth the price,and black to boot!

Comment by: dvdlover7 (Mar 26, 2007 23:09)

why not put HD DVD drive as standard feature instead of OPTIONAL,,this would be great, if you want upgrade to DH dvd drive now you must pay extra for it..it work out same price with PS3 but PS3 come with Blue Ray dvd drive as standard..it's looking like the games has been start between major games manufactures WII, XBOX and lastest PS3,,i have long fan of XBOX but now i just wondering switch to PS3, i have been waiting for XBOX come with HD DVD drive that i save my time on upgrade it,now look like it's never happen, if they still plan HD DVD drive as OPTIONAL i believe PS3 will overtake them,,with BLUE RAY dvd Player alone was cost $1499 AUD,i thinks in US could be more cheaper than AUS..any suggestion you guys keep waiting for next generation of XBOX or switch to PS3....cheersss

Comment by: vashwolf (Mar 27, 2007 02:01)

I can believe nobody is pissed off about this, millions of people paid 300-400 dollars to be beta testers. Go 8=>* yourselves M$, I'm getting a Wii.

Comment by: azndrake (Mar 27, 2007 05:38)

This is GREAT news for me since i already have a ps3 and always wanted an Xbox with better features. Now i can get a Black Xbox and not have to worry about overheating issues :P.

Btw i luv my ps3 and i probably luv my future Black Xbox:P. Suxs for people with the original xbox since it might not be able to operate future games at a decent fps without overheating.

Comment by: azndrake (Mar 27, 2007 05:52)

I was wondering if that Black Xbox came with a built-in Wi-Fi?

Comment by: BobbyBlu (Mar 27, 2007 06:45)

This isn t gonna be true IPTV. If the internet speed is not high enough, there's no way people will watch LIVE TV on an XBOX. The service exists in France for a while now and it s choppy as hell at low speed. THe only way to get XBOX working at low speed is to use it as digital recorder then watch the show with a delay. This isn't real TV. More like something in the middle of PPV and Tivo... At high speed, i d tend to agree, Live TV is possible but how many towns around the US got very high speed DSL ? ... 'cause we are talking about phone companies. not cable companies...Also i wonder what the price tag on this service going to be i guess just another way for M$ to keep draining there customer into that money pit they have.Never mind i already have cable why anyone going to pay for two cable bills.

Comment by: SProdigy (Mar 27, 2007 08:20)

Yeah the new console does tick me off a bit, but MS is doing this to try to curb all of the security flaws in the "white" boxes. Already have mine modded, so who cares about this? Go buy a black case and call it a day.

Comment by: spydah (Mar 27, 2007 10:21)

This is why i was not a Xbox fan. I only got mines to hold me over until the PS3 came out. I got them both and i only play my 360 to play with friends online other then that thats all its used for. This is topical M$ all they know how to do is screw the user. I think that will continue because nobody will do nothing about it.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Mar 27, 2007 11:19)

HDVD will not be in the 360 until units sale for 200 so I don't see MS putting a HDVD drive into the 360 for 2 years there are 2 main reasons for this PRICE being first and for most to put it in would add 200 to the drive then they would take a 200-400 loss MS,the other main reason is MS built this console around DVD without Hdvd games a price hike and more money loss on each console sold MS dosent have much of a need to do it right now in 2-4 years they might roll out the Xbox 2 who knows in the long run the format war might still be going in 011.

As fickle as the 360 hardware is MS's upgrade path is as silly from the start they should let you change the HDD,and since they have HDVD and the drive units are almost the same in size they should have made the units interchangeable.

MS upgrade plan is sloppy yet they can stabilize income by relseing new models every 2 years at near launch price's

Sony forces you to buy it all at once and gives you meager upgrade options after that.

Comment by: eiffel65 (Mar 27, 2007 12:21)

I was right... http://my.afterdawn.com/eiffel65/blog_en...new360comfirmed

^Look at the dates, I posted it a day before this.

Comment by: DVDBack23 (Mar 27, 2007 12:59)

Originally posted by eiffel65:

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I was right... http://my.afterdawn.com/eiffel65/blog_en...new360comfirmed

^Look at the dates, I posted it a day before this.

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would you like a medal?

Comment by: pigfister (Mar 27, 2007 13:32)

this is almost as bad as my sony putting a 2x Blu-ray 8mbps drive into the ps3 especially when the equipped 8xdvd has a faster data extract rate. ^-^

Comment by: Joshewah (Mar 27, 2007 14:53)

Originally posted by dikdimond:

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Don't forget that with the proc at 65nm the 360 will run cooler as well. Def worth the price,and black to boot!

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65nm isn't comming until fall. These units wil still have the 90nm process. When the limited edition elits are gone the premium units will get all the goods that the elit package has (except the black shell.) The price of the new premiums will still be $400. I'd rather wait till fall, save $80, and get the same fetures that the elite has just with a white 360.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Mar 27, 2007 19:25)

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Originally posted by dikdimond:

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Don't forget that with the proc at 65nm the 360 will run cooler as well. Def worth the price,and black to boot!

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65nm isn't comming until fall. These units wil still have the 90nm process. When the limited edition elits are gone the premium units will get all the goods that the elit package has (except the black shell.) The price of the new premiums will still be $400. I'd rather wait till fall, save $80, and get the same fetures that the elite has just with a white 360.

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yes you are correct the new 360 guts wont be in the white units until late this year.

Comment by: scorpNZ (Mar 27, 2007 22:14)

There are a stack of accessories for the xbox 1 including coloured casing plastics in see thru crystal,see thru blue,green,red etc,so no doubt there'll be after market covers for the 360 and no doubt there'll be black

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Mar 27, 2007 22:37)

Originally posted by scorpNZ:

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There are a stack of accessories for the xbox 1 including coloured casing plastics in see thru crystal,see thru blue,green,red etc,so no doubt there'll be after market covers for the 360 and no doubt there'll be black

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I wonder if the current 360 cases will be usable on the new 360 guts.

Comment by: dikdimond (Mar 28, 2007 12:45)

Yeah I read that fall is when the 65nm procs are going to be released...damn

Comment by: spindle (Mar 28, 2007 13:17)

there is no need foe a 120 gib hard drive i still havent filled mine the addition of the HDMI and the new colers are what get me

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Mar 28, 2007 13:24)

Originally posted by spindle:

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there is no need foe a 120 gib hard drive i still havent filled mine the addition of the HDMI and the new colers are what get me

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there is some need for it however I am more interested in the new guts over the new HD :P

Comment by: spindle (Mar 28, 2007 13:32)

this is just anouther way that they have fpond to suck our money the promas of new and more powerfull gaming is not mean that is what u r geting when i game to me it is all about the graphs if they are cheasy then i realy dont like the game that is wear the HDMI comes in i have an hd tv so i use the componet input with the addition of the HDMI it is just anouther step in the right deriction for me