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Moore doubts PS3 advantage over Xbox 360Dela @ Jan 29, 2007 22:47 | 63 comments Microsoft's Peter Moore has said that he believes there is nothing about Sony's PlayStation 3 (PS3) console that could give it an edge over the Xbox 360 in the console war. "I really don't know what I would look at there that we're really missing," he told IGN.
"I look at the games and I feel really good at where we stand from a portfolio point of view. The online service, they're still trying to get it up to speed and there's nothing really there that I can really point to that I wish we had."
PS3 fans proclaim that Sony's latest console is much more powerful than the Xbox 360, and favor it for the console war despite coming to the starting line a year late. One of the biggest weaknesses they point out in Xbox 360 is the use of the DVD format for game content. However, even some of Sony's biggest fans aren't willing to dish out the high price for the console, a fact that Moore couldn't help but mention.
"You know, certainly the price point of the PS3 isn't something that I want to emulate. It's very difficult for me to point to anything there that I think we're missing right now," he said. When asked about the terrific launch success of the Nintendo Wii, he said he is certainly a big fan of the console.
However he did say that it is what Nintendo "needs to do" adding that it "ties directly into their strong intellectual property that is more youth oriented and more family oriented".
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Comment by: BobbyBlu (Jan 31, 2007 07:15) Quote: If you don't know why this is a big reason then dismis yourself from this tread.Because Japan like it or not is the world biggest Electronics retailer not US OR any other country so why make a statement like that if you don't know what your talking about.
Quote: So i take it that you didn't know that the 360 launched a year ago so that might have something to do with that. |
Comment by: error5 (Jan 31, 2007 07:52) Quote: Japan may be the world's biggest electronics retailer (read:manufacturer/seller) but I think the US/North America is still the largest market (read:buyer). For CE companies the market and the buyer is still what counts for their bottom line. Case in point: Of the first 500K units of the PS3 - 400K went to the US & Canada while 100K went to Japan. If Japan had the biggest market in the world then more units would have gone to Japan. |
Comment by: hughjars (Jan 31, 2007 08:23) Just a few facts for this 'market' debate -
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Comment by: error5 (Jan 31, 2007 08:55) Originally posted by hughjars: Exactly right. One would imagine that CE companies (including Japanese ones) will base their marketing decisions on sales projections for North America, the EU and maybe even China (which has the potential to become the largest market in the future.) |
Comment by: BobbyBlu (Jan 31, 2007 08:59) Quote: Thats population just because you have so many people in that market does not add up to who is spending money.There a reason Japan gets all the new electronics before the rest of the world do because they spend more money than the rest plus they are not called the electronics capital of the world for nothing.I don't want this to turn into Japan vs the world tread so lets get on topic i was just showing why Japan have a major impact when it come to console's i'm pretty sure we would agree on that. |
Comment by: spydah (Jan 31, 2007 09:17) Why are people still judging PS3 to 360 when PS3 just came out. It don't make any since to do that being 360 has been out a little over a year PS3 3 months. That time frame will never add up until PS3 is out long enough to correct everything that 360 has done its system. Plus people can argue all they want about paying $500 - $600 for a PS3 but in the long run you already paid that and then some with 360 and they coming out with a newer 360 which your gonna kick out some more money. M$ makes you pay for every bit of the use of your 360 at every level PS3 doesn't. Once you get a PS3 their online service is free but still needs some improving thats the only edge at this point that 360 has over that system but as for cost why did 360 come out a year later with a HD- Dvd player for the 360 most money you need to spend if you want it. M$ points to get game updates more money spent online subscription more money spent, little cheap games in 360 market online more money. As i said M$ is nickel dime the hell outta people since its systems been out. Now as for PS3 im certain there are some cost with the use of their system but they giving you more with the system once you get the PS3 with the 60 gig drive your done for a while 360 is making another drive to put on a 360 more cost outta your pocket. People really need to look at the big picture M$ is really over charging you but because PS3 cost is high to begin with people are saying it ain't worth it i don't agree at all. Now my last comment on this is graphics as i posted on my last comment at this point they are neck and neck with graphics PS3's are a little bit brighter but at this point this is the only difference. If you paid attention it took 360 6-10 months before we get more then 1 quality game which was GRAW all the rest of the half made games were really trash and a waste of $60. PS3 is now in that boat of not being in a quality game rut like 360 so if PS3 is where 360 this time next year and not have better looking games then all the complaints about 360 being better then PS3 will be true until then lets wait and see. |
Comment by: BobbyBlu (Jan 31, 2007 11:03) AMEN spydah
This what i been saying like three weeks now.But i would have to say that the 360 has 3 really good games in a year. GOW,LostPlanet,& dead raising.But i really feel that the 360 will not have a game that going to surpass GOW i think that game was a head of its time. |
Comment by: spydah (Jan 31, 2007 12:09) Yeah i agree God Of War 2 will be out on 3/13/07 i cant wait. The first was the best game i played probably ever. |
Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jan 31, 2007 12:18) BobbyBlu good point they are gadget happy ^^ they also are still have good bit of game devs lil by lil EU and US devs are filling out the pie, but they still are half or so of it.
the 360 is doing well despite the issues it has,I still think devs or lack of games is keeping the system down,Nintendo needs to ramp up support but I think they have enough bases covered to do well.
The PS3 has everything to be the center of gaming but the price thus will have a hard couple of years,but I see it dominating again unless devs jump ship but....I just don't see them going to nintendo.
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Comment by: ChocTunda (Jan 31, 2007 12:48) Quote: I agree with you but we don't know if Sony going to have have a hill to climb til next year or so.But dev's are justing ship because they want to get the money that first party's has been getting.Like today THQ said that Saints Row is coming to PS3.I don't blame them they can make more money on two console than one.Why should they limit themselves. |
Comment by: johnblaze (Jan 31, 2007 12:48) Originally posted by spydah: I think he meant Gears of War, but God of War is a killer game, I just got the first one on PS2 ($15!!) and am addicted to it. |
Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jan 31, 2007 12:55) ChocTunda because of dev's being bought and sold and ate up be large pubs almost any dev has access to multi platform making and since the pubs rule all it makes them more money to do a port and sale it on another system.
Exclusivity is a thing for the past,games are simply to costly to make now adays to hinge your bets on one system.
Only Corporations that have deals with other will not let games be multi system. |
Comment by: psyantist (Jan 31, 2007 13:50) hughjars is the only poster in this thread that makes valid logical sense. I would like to point out the 360 year old arguement as extremely weak when trying to way lay the inadequacies of the PS3 because the PS3 development's timeline is probably older than that of the 360. You can't honestly believe they did any critical development in their delay to market.
And as far as offering more the 360 has it in spades over any of the competition. Who cares about Blu-ray or HD DVD, I just watched "Lady in the Water" in HD and I don't even have an HD player, just DL'ed. And the XNA stuff is cool as hell if you are into that sort of thing, but the aspect of the little guy making cool apps is sweet.
Buy a Piece of Shit 3, I don't care. You can have your immensly small margin of better graphics if it pans out for you, which it prolly won't. I'll take a system who is innovative and bringing more to me than shoveling crap down my throat and telling me to like it.
Booooooo Sony......Hoo Ray MS and Nintendo |
Comment by: spydah (Jan 31, 2007 14:49) Yup my bad on the God of war post i wasn't paying attention i forgot Gears of War have the same initials. |
Comment by: johnblaze (Jan 31, 2007 14:55) Originally posted by spydah: Heh, you're not the first, I guess it's bound to happen with 2 great games with the same initials. |
Comment by: BobbyBlu (Feb 01, 2007 11:42) Quote: Great post you went from talking about downloading HD content that you said you dont care about to curseing let us know if your going to bring something to the table about this topic. |
Comment by: hughjars (Feb 01, 2007 12:59) Quote: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6164947.html?tag=latestnews;title;0
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Comment by: BobbyBlu (Feb 01, 2007 13:29) Quote: Sony is Sony.Blah,Blah,& Blah.Old news that link was posted like two day ago.I'm going to post it so you can read it again not pick out stuff that couldn't be close to the truth. |
Comment by: oofRome (Feb 01, 2007 15:14) Quote: I believe he posted the link, so yes, we can all read it.
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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Feb 01, 2007 16:06) oofRome
FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A. Sony has declared war on importers the consumer will be next with CD's,Videos/Games not far behind that....boycott SONY! http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/8062.cfm |
Comment by: psyantist (Feb 01, 2007 16:37) BobbyBlu - If you had been following along with the thread and could comprehend what my post was about then you would realize what I was stating. Let me re-iterate for you....who cares about HD-DVD or Blu-ray when the option to download the content is available. In this scenario the debate over which format to chose and what player to have is mute.
Psyantist
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Comment by: UHALL (Feb 01, 2007 20:07) while all of you are talking smack the Ps3 is on a downward spiral to a big pile of shit. |
Comment by: ZippyDSM (Feb 01, 2007 20:48) UHALL I wouldn't say that,the PS3 dose have everything to rule gamedom but the price itself is keeping it down the 360 is pulling itself together and the WII is meek.
things are a mess and the systems need to mature,it stll seems a 2 way tie between Sony and MS and the WII getting everything else. making it almost a 3 way tie. |
Comment by: humzaiq (Feb 05, 2007 16:52) i got hit by lightning for spamming this fine site!!! edited by ddp |
Comment by: krytonbrn (Feb 06, 2007 08:11) Well it has been said that the meek (perhaps that should be miik?) shall inherit the earth.... |