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Comment by: bullshnug (Aug 17, 2005 16:56)

holy crap guys, haha.......im just sitting here reading everyones comments trying to figure out facts and shit about the systems, and some people just want to get pissed off and argue. like that one guy said, its basically all opinion when it comes to the differences because (according to him) theyre all pretty much the same, well the 360 and ps3. but fuck....just imagine if we had to play atari and regular nintendo, we should be praising how far the systems have come over the years, not shitting on companies for doing there best for the people, i wouldnt know how the hell to make a video game system, and im sure as hell all the guys that wanna judge dont have MUCH of a clue either. This isnt supposed to piss anyone off so please dont retaliate with some smug remark.anyway, im going with microsoft anyway, been a fan eversince 01, and im not gonna change now, although, we'll see whats in store. one thing i seemed to nitice of the two systems xbox and ps2 is that the landscapes in the xbox games seemed alot bigger and open, in ps2 games there seems to be alot of inside gameplay, maybe this is cuz programming or whatever but. thats just what i saw from experience. slater all

Comment by: Jason8 (Aug 17, 2005 17:40)

I dont know wat u people r talkin about but the 360 system actually comes with the system, wireless controller, and a 20 gig hard drive all in the same box when we get it. I dont know where u people get that the system comes with no hardrive or a wied controller, its all included in the system. JUST GET THE AUGUST EDITION OF THE XBOX MAGAZINE. IT TELLS U EVERYTHING ABOUT WHATS IN THE BOX WHEN U GET IT AND ALL ABOUT THE SYSTEM. CHECK IT OUT

Comment by: SamuriHL (Aug 17, 2005 17:45)

Jason, calm down. MS released the information we're all talking about this morning in Germany. This is a fact. There will be *2* version of the console with MS leaning heavily in favor of the $399.99 one(i.e. there will be more of those boxes on the shelves than the $299.99 version). This information is posted all over the web and even CNN ran a story on it this morning. The $299.99 version will NOT have a wireless controller, hard drive, or a head set. It will also come with standard AV cables. The $399.99 version supposedly will come with a hard drive loaded with content, a wireless controller, headset, and for a while, a free remote. It will also have a component cable apparently. This is from reports we got from MS this morning. Whatever magazine you read didn't apparently have all the info when they published it.

Comment by: Jason8 (Aug 17, 2005 19:20)

ok thank u. But that is really a stupid idea dont u think. I mean why dont they put in a wireless controller and a 20 gig hard drive w/ the system for 359.99. or maybe thats just for people in Germany. And heres another question. WOULD SOMEONE please send me the xbox 360's final hardware product because ive seen close to several different kinds of xbox 360 systems and id like to know what the final piece of hardware will look like . PLEASE

Comment by: SamuriHL (Aug 17, 2005 19:25)

I hope no one minds that I post a link to an external site, but:

http://www.dvhardware.net/article6456.html

That should give you more info and they have a small pic of the console. I would surmise that the reason you've seen several different looking pics is because of the ability to change the faceplate. I THINK the premium xbox 360 package comes with a different faceplate than the xbox 360 core but I'm not positive.

Comment by: Jason8 (Aug 17, 2005 19:34)

thank u. But i still have another question. I was reading that in the Premium ( 399.99 ) package that it comes with the HD_AV cable. Will that still work with my ordinary 27" normal tv. or do i have to get an HD TV or just get the crappy 299.99 package???

Comment by: SamuriHL (Aug 17, 2005 19:37)

I have to assume that they either include the standard av cable or the hd cable has standard connections in addition to the composite connections. In the WORSE case scenario you'd have to buy a standard av cable. They are by no means suggesting the premium is ONLY HD...just that it includes the HD cable.

Comment by: Jason8 (Aug 17, 2005 19:49)

Heres another question. Why would people say that the system and wireless controller and 20 gig hdd was all included at a launch price of 299.99? & then today have M$ say that it will be 399.99 with an extra remote and that in the 299.99 package that there wont be a wireless controller. WAZZUP M$ ASS,

BUT STILL GO M$!!!!!!!

Comment by: SamuriHL (Aug 17, 2005 19:52)

It proves the point of speculating before official info is out. :) Until MS *OFFICIALLY* says what's included, people, mages, websites, etc can guess and speculate all they want, but, they COULD be wrong. And in this case, they were. That's why I caution people about judging systems before they're actually available because the info out there just isn't always accurate.

Comment by: Jason8 (Aug 17, 2005 20:01)

Well at least its been confirmed right Now. I just got an e-mail from official xbox magazine and they told me yes it is true. 399.99 package will give u the ultimate experience with the system, 20 gig hdd, wireless controller,universal remote and an xbox LIVE headset w/ the Silver membership for Xbox Live. & the 299.99 will come with the system, a wired or wireless controller ( now i guess they may make all the systems come with a wireless controller ) and thats about it. & as far as how the system will look. Ur right. It will look like the system that we've seen a million times before ( Sleek, Stylish, Silver ) , but if u have the september issue of oxm they give u a different picture of the 360, but that is for game developers. The difference was that they added an extra cool-heating fan were the hdd is to allow game dev. to take better screenshots and images via. having a 100gig hdd instead of the smaller ones that all of us will be getting.

If u would like me to ask Xbox/M$ any questions about 360. then please feel free to tell me wat ur q is and ill ask them with having the response at least 24hrs. after giving me the question THANK U

Comment by: Jason8 (Aug 18, 2005 01:50)

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

I Just found out that over here in Canada, The Xbox 360 Premium pack is $500 BUCKS. JESUS CHRIST.

I Dont know what J Allard is trying to pull, but he wont be getting that many people buying the 360 up here with that Price ( Except for me cause im like the hardcorest fan over here ) , but all i can afford is the system & accessories. I Guess ill just have to play Xbox 1 games until Christmas. IT BETTER BE BACKWARDS COMP. WITH THAT 20GIG HARD DRIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by: brh51280 (Aug 18, 2005 20:39)

by the by

i looked today at an e-mail again in my company regarding the 360 pricing and so forth

and it said...

MICROSOFT HAS CONFIRMED A RELEASE FOR THE 360 THE WEEK OF NOVEMBER 14TH WITH A SPECIFIC DATE FORTHCOMING

sooo my prediction that the 16TH is teh date will probably be just about dead on

WOOHOO!!!

Comment by: tig121 (Aug 19, 2005 14:10)

I had a mail from simplygames.com saying you can pre-order the 360 in the UK for £209 which is pretty cool :)

Comment by: Jason8 (Aug 19, 2005 19:23)

Hey brh51280. Ur assumption that 360 coming out on Nov. 16th is good'n'all, but why not say it will come out on the 15th. Reasons Why:

1. It would be 4 years since Xbox 1 came out on the exact date ( Nov.15th, 2001)

2. It would be out half the days of November and be 1 month and 10 days till Christmas

3. U'd think they wouldnt hold it pass December 1st, and most certainly not 2 weeks to the end of Nov.

But In any case, ya either the 15th or 16th it'll come out. So im guessing 15th, ur guessing 16th. ANY1 else have a date they think might be correct???

(Keeping in mind that it is the week of the 14th-18th)

Comment by: akumagash (Aug 26, 2005 13:07)

M$ are ripping us all off again. £279 for 360 power pack or whatever???? Just like the original xbox which was £299 (plus £20 for a f%$*&ing remote to watch dvd's when the capacity was already their) they start with a massive price so they can drop it at xmas then drop it again when PS3 is out and still have a decent price to recoup their losses. Unfortunately I am hardcore and fortunately I can afford it as well as all the release games etc but I think its unfair of M$ to put people in this position. How many people are toying with the idea of buying it? Its a great machine but is it worth that much of your hard earned cash?? I wonder how many parents are being blackmailed by their kids right now to make sure they can get it on release day. M$ knows it can charge what it wants for the 360 because enough people will pay

and the benefit of releasing your machine first is that you can start off with a stupidly high price

and lower it when your competition comes out which in turn forces the competition to take a bigger loss on their console as they compete with yours.

Typical M$ - money grabbing pieces of turd. Unfortunately they're damn good at it and they've made a machine which will be bought at any price

Comment by: bullshnug (Aug 26, 2005 17:43)

hey man, i'd do it if i could. wouldnt you? sounds like a good marketing scheme to me. haha

Comment by: akumagash (Aug 26, 2005 19:03)

yeah brilliant. Just reminding you what its all about

Comment by: Jason8 (Aug 27, 2005 12:25)

Yeah. So, NO ONE has answered my question yet.

So, here it is again :

Now that the Next-gen systems are all out for everyone to see, hear, and talk about. Which system do u guys think will win the next-gen race and why??

Thank you to those of you who have already answered, thank you. For those who havent, please feel free to answer it if you'd like on this archive please ( Xbox 360 Release Date and Price Leaked ). Its a survey im taking for my Video Game Store on which system people will most likely like and/or buy. Thank You

Comment by: chaos5258 (Aug 27, 2005 13:18)

Well the Xbox will have a pretty big lead on all the other systems so I'd say it will be the Xbox that will take the top because it came out first just like the PS2 did so many years ago even though the PS3 might have better graphics. and about canadian money the canadian dollar equivalent to the US is $1.25 canada to 1.00 US so $500 in canada is about right.

Comment by: Jason8 (Aug 27, 2005 22:18)

Yeah i guess its about right. ( A 400 dollar product in US, will be about 500 dollars canadian ), but i hate it because we always have to pay more when these new systems come out. But we have a deal of our own, that beats the shit out of the 1 that you'd get anywhere else. You get the Premium Ed. of xbox 360 ( System, wireless cont., 20gig hdd, remote, headseat and an enthernet cable) plus this: another wireless controller, a play-&-charge kit, a rechargable battery pack, 1 of 3 new faceplates ( that will be available at launch ) and 4 games of your choice for 699.92 CDN.

And for those of you who are getting the xbox 360 at launch here are a list of some of the many games you'd enjoy for the launch :

1. Full Auto 2. Perfect Dark Zero

3. Call of Duty 2 4. Tom Clancys Ghost Recon 3

5. PGR 3 6. Elder Scrolls 4 : Oblivion

There you go. Probably the top 6 best-sellers for launch games, but then again thats just my prediction.

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Comment by: lxfactor (Oct 30, 2005 20:56)

its $299 for the original and 399 for all the extra stuff over here and the date here is november 25.. thats what the guy said.. at EBX

Comment by: SamuriHL (Oct 30, 2005 20:57)

Date for us in the US is November 22.

Comment by: Risen (Oct 31, 2005 17:30)

I love the fact that people bitch about the many things of the gaming world but I say they're all good in the gaming bis. but for all that I know Billy "Head Honchoe" At MS is a cheating bitch he didn't finish high school he stole things from Mac (I think) and he beats down the compition with his mighty power (that he used to make the "360" "thanks to the big man up stairs")... Just so he can first knock out the PS then knock out the Nintendo so hence the reason why me the little fps loving 17 year old $70 pay check earning teen I am I'm buying the 360 so Little man me want get squashed by Big I'm own top of the world man him!!!!

Comment by: Risen (Oct 31, 2005 17:34)

Besides haven't u seen the Simpsons where Bill Gates "Buys out" Homers company? That Is exactly what I think will happen!!