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DVDBack23 @ Nov 05, 2010 20:39 | 15 comments

Following Microsoft's launch of the Kinect motion control system yesterday, a couple of reviews from notable sites came in claiming that the "facial recognition" feature of the device was having trouble detecting people of darker skin.

One review, from GameSpot, had this to say: "Testing suggests facial recognition features of Microsoft's motion-sensing camera system might not work properly for some gamers... In testing the Kinect, two dark-skinned GameSpot employees had problems getting the system's facial recognition features to work."

Consumer Reports immediately took to the case, and has reported that Kinect is not "racist" in any way.

The site says that the facial recognition problems stems from lighting in the room and not from a player's skin tone. White or black, if you are in a room with low-level lighting, the system will have problems recognizing your face.

As for actually following the movements of players, CR says even in a pitch black room they had no issues with the Kinect seeing them.

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Comment by: Mysttic (Nov 05, 2010 20:49)

It should be noted that there were media sites reporting this through wild fire imagination that this took Kinect to be racist, hence how this article got its title. Consumer Reports was not the only one to talk this down, PCMag was another site that claimed this was utter BS.

Some writers take controversy way too far just to get people to talk.

Comment by: dcmorrow (Nov 05, 2010 21:16)

Yes utter BS.

Technology cannot be racist. It can be poorly designed, dependent on contrast ratio between the subject and the environment, however it can not judge who is whom.

The best technology should consider all spectrums infrared to ultra violet. However with such technology others are afraid someone might see their underwear.

Comment by: Interestx (Nov 06, 2010 00:59)

You just sometimes have to adjust for ambient light.....which can obviously change over the course of the day.

Comment by: Interestx (Nov 06, 2010 01:01)

What next, huh?
'Cameras are racist'?

(cos in very poor light conditions they too can have problems defining people with darker skin. It's absurd nonsense.)

Comment by: cyprusrom (Nov 06, 2010 02:42)

Same BS that was going on about a year ago or so, with HP face recognition software. Racist my arse, all it is is people that call themselves reporters, they make up "headlines".
http://www.pcworld.com/article/185234/hp_our_webcams_are_not_racist.html

Comment by: KillerBug (Nov 06, 2010 02:58)

I think that they are trying to imply that the company that made the device is racist; not the device itself.

Still, as much as I love to bash Microsoft, they are innocent on this one. Cameras have enough trouble in low light just getting something bright and reflective...something bright is a little harder, and a darker tone is nearly impossible.

Maybe if these people used their Kinect near some light source (maybe a TV?) it would work better.

Comment by: xboxdvl2 (Nov 06, 2010 06:14)

i have trouble seeing dark skined people in a dark area.I'm not trying to be racist just honest.if human eyes have trouble then how can a camera be any better.

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Comment by: Hopium (Nov 06, 2010 17:01)

Originally posted by mammysaysimnaughty:

You, are ,a, SAD SAD SAD SAD, pathetic little man, thats what you are.

mammysaysimnaughty, take some of your own

Comment by: ddp (Nov 07, 2010 00:41)

mammysaysimnaughty has been hit by lightning. posts deleted.

Comment by: SomeBozo (Nov 07, 2010 03:47)

Possibly there are differences inherent between races, for example white easily get sunburns, blacks have sickle-cell anaemia, blacks as I learned while doing my water training in the navy have a harder time swimming mainly because there bones are more dense and heavier, and still white man can't jump :) These are facts of life (well not the jumping part), I hope people aren't so damn PC now a days that if any difference is ever found between races they are misconstrued as racist statements.

Comment by: xtago (Nov 07, 2010 11:04)

I've seen black kids using it they didn't have any problems with it.

Comment by: KillerBug (Nov 09, 2010 10:22)

Originally posted by SomeBozo:
blacks as I learned while doing my water training in the navy have a harder time swimming mainly because there bones are more dense and heavier, and still white man can't jump

LoL...Their bones are too heavy to swim? That is bad news for any black basketball players that might have to jump...good thing there are so few black people in the NBA!

Comment by: SomeBozo (Nov 09, 2010 12:10)

Originally posted by KillerBug:

Originally posted by SomeBozo:
blacks as I learned while doing my water training in the navy have a harder time swimming mainly because there bones are more dense and heavier, and still white man can't jump
LoL...Their bones are too heavy to swim? That is bad news for any black basketball players that might have to jump...good thing there are so few black people in the NBA!

I said harder to swim, not that they couldn't. Being such an intelligent person as you want to come across as, thought you knew the difference.

Comment by: eljay (Nov 12, 2010 17:45)

Originally posted by SomeBozo:
Possibly there are differences inherent between races, for example white easily get sunburns, blacks have sickle-cell anaemia, blacks as I learned while doing my water training in the navy have a harder time swimming mainly because there bones are more dense and heavier, and still white man can't jump :) These are facts of life (well not the jumping part), I hope people aren't so damn PC now a days that if any difference is ever found between races they are misconstrued as racist statements.

Very well said! You took the words right out of my mouth.

Comment by: Jimmer12 (Nov 12, 2010 19:13)

I swear minorities just sit around looking for things to cry racism.. its just getting to be pathetic..