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Comment by: xnmalletx (Apr 12, 2010 19:05)

Wow Microsoft is listening to their customers. Keep it up Microsoft, please.

Comment by: DXR88 (Apr 12, 2010 20:35)

why the hell wouldn't you want left over points so for $5 dollars im getting 100 points less.

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Comment by: xnmalletx (Apr 12, 2010 21:25)

Originally posted by DXR88:

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why the hell wouldn't you want left over points so for $5 dollars im getting 100 points less.

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yea but most of the items are changed to 400 point increments too, so some items will be less expensive now.

Comment by: xdgen84 (Apr 13, 2010 14:28)

Originally posted by DXR88:

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why the hell wouldn't you want left over points so for $5 dollars im getting 100 points less.

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Actually the 500 points didn't cost $5, it cost $6.25. However, since 80 points=$1 (US), if you bought the 500, you would likely have an odd amount of points sitting around that couldn't be used on anything. Even if you used 400 points on something, you'd have 100 points left which could maybe buy you a profile picture...then you're left with 20 points which buys nothing and you basically have to keep "overbuying" points to eventually even out. So you're not getting less for your money, you now don't have to "waste" it.

Comment by: Dapsone (Apr 13, 2010 16:24)

Points are just dumb. I know, such a lame response, but what is deserved by such a lame market transaction service. Just make the damn things like 1 point per cent (so 100 points per dollar) or get rid of "points" all together. I say, it is obvious that this is some sort of market technique proven in some back-room fashion to trick consumers into spending more money than otherwise since the average person has no freaking clue what they are spending.

Comment by: dab0ne (Apr 13, 2010 19:38)

Originally posted by Dapsone:

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Points are just dumb. I know, such a lame response, but what is deserved by such a lame market transaction service. Just make the damn things like 1 point per cent (so 100 points per dollar) or get rid of "points" all together. I say, it is obvious that this is some sort of market technique proven in some back-room fashion to trick consumers into spending more money than otherwise since the average person has no freaking clue what they are spending.

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I agree, I have a PS3 and an Xbox and if there is DLC available on both systems I tend to purchase it for PS3 just because they use the money system and not the point system. I like to know exactly how much I am spending as opposed to how many points. I mean in reality it's not that hard to figure out the point thing it's just an added annoyance that I would rather not deal with. Now if they really want to do something to trump SONY they should offer more points for less money. For example 400 points for $5 and 1600 points for $15 or $17 or something like that. Reward your customers for buying more points. The fact that they buy more is an indication that they believe in your DLC. Not to mention they are already paying $4 a month for the Gold online service.

Comment by: bam431 (Apr 14, 2010 14:23)

Doesn't make a diffrence to me. The prices are staying the same outside the USA, For now atleast.

Comment by: Gnawnivek (Apr 15, 2010 15:59)

Why they have to complicate life by introducing the point system? I like the PSN system better, $1 is $1.

Comment by: anto_aac (Apr 15, 2010 17:03)

Its about time.

Comment by: spin54 (Apr 15, 2010 19:29)

I agree the point system is stupid, but it is there, so that said, to the person talking about having 100 points left over, then 20 point that buys nothing. You even say eventually it evens out and then you have another 400 points that have added up. So technically you are getting less for you money. I would rather have the 500 instead of the 400. I don't care if I have extra points in my account. They don't hurt anyone and eventually they are going to add up to another game.

But beyond that, the whole point system is a giant piece of crap. I don't know what they were thinking in the first place, but then they run off and screw it all up with the price vs. cost of games. I mean if Microsoft would pull their heads out they would realize it isn't worth it and change to a money = money transaction model like the PSN.

The ONLY good thing I can see about points is giving away points as prizes on things like the live game shows they are doing now. It sounds a lot better to say you won 400 MS Points than you won 6 dollars and 25 cents or whatever.

I dunno. keep the points I guess. But make them easier to deal with. More round numbers.

Comment by: Gnawnivek (Apr 15, 2010 19:39)

Ah, so that's why they used the point system... Yes, 400 points definitely sounds cooler than $6.25. And being able to get free points is pretty cool too.

While PSN don't have competitions for free points, but they have promotional PSN redeemable codes. You know, the points you earn from 7/11's Slurpee drinks? You can redeem for PSN items (they are exclusive to 7/11 promotions).

I don't understand Nintendo's point system either. Sigh, life is wonderful isn't it? Learning about those pointless point systems.

Comment by: DXR88 (Apr 16, 2010 03:13)

there not hard to figure out once you know the currency to point system. while the $$ number up front is nice for PSN, it does have a flaw many overlook.

if you have many products that need pricing think of the pain it would cause to go in and price every item in 6 different currencies not to mention some items will cost more do to conversion.

Point System = Easy management, Static pricing, and less overhead.

Comment by: Gnawnivek (Apr 16, 2010 14:04)

Originally posted by DXR88:

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there not hard to figure out once you know the currency to point system. while the $$ number up front is nice for PSN, it does have a flaw many overlook.

if you have many products that need pricing think of the pain it would cause to go in and price every item in 6 different currencies not to mention some items will cost more do to conversion.

Point System = Easy management, Static pricing, and less overhead.

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I do not understand the currency conversion part on the PSN... I know what currency conversion is, but i don't understand what that have to with PSN? Because everything on PSN is in one currency (the currency you're "zoned" for). So, in the US, we see dollars, in the UK, people see pounds. It's not like i can buy something from UK's PSN store while browsing US's PSN store.

So, you're saying, with MS or Nintendo points, I can log into my US Xbox live and buy games/themes from Japan? If that's allowed, I'm cool with the points, because i don't know what the dollar to yen conversion is... BUT the question is, CAN I BUY SOMETHING FROM JAPAN's Xbox live marketplace while I'm on a US gamer tag? Same question for Nintendo...

Comment by: DXR88 (Apr 16, 2010 17:49)

there is only one world wide market place

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Comment by: Gnawnivek (Apr 16, 2010 18:40)

Originally posted by DXR88:

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there is only one world wide market place

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Ha, that's not true! The Xbox 360 accounts are locked to the region code, same as that of PSN.

One world wide marketplace, literally, yes. However, you can't buy contents from a different region, so even if the 400 points worth the same (US and Japan), it doesn't matter, because you can't buy something that's outside of your region. Hence, there's no need to convert currency and that makes the point system still pointless.

Comment by: Paula_X (Apr 16, 2010 18:56)

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point system still pointless

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quote of the month.. maybe the year.. nice one.