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PlayStation is 'poison,' says dictator

DVDBack23 @ Jan 18, 2010 07:52 | 39 comments

According to Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez, the Sony PlayStation line of consoles is "poison" and is leading children down the "capitalist road to hell."

The PS wasn't the only product feeling the heat from the President however, as he called on Venezuelan manufacturers to create "educational" toys with the features of those indigenous to the nation and not capitalistic dolls such as Barbies that "have nothing to do with our culture."

After dissing Nintendo for promoting "selfishness, individualism and violence," Chavez took aim at the PS line.

"Those games they call 'PlayStation' are poison. Some games teach you to kill. They once put my face on a game, 'you've got to find Chavez to kill him.'" The games sold for the PS are used as propogando to "later sell weapons," and they "promote the need for cigarettes, drugs and alcohol so they can sell them. That's capitalism, the road to hell."

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Comment by: mike.m (Jan 18, 2010 21:49)

Quote:
you've got to find Chavez to kill him

I would like to play that game.

Comment by: Morreale (Jan 18, 2010 21:58)

Quote:
Quote:
you've got to find Chavez to kill him

I would like to play that game.


Mercenaries 2 I think?

Comment by: ThePastor (Jan 18, 2010 22:01)

Chavez is perfectly correct. Our entire entertainment industry and the gaming industry in particular is absolutely PRO-Capitolist and ANTI-Socialist. Exactly as it should be.
Where's the suprise?

If he doesn't like it why doesn't he use some of that Socialist Brain Trust and build his own "Socialist loving" "Capitolist hating" propoganda games of his own?

Comment by: AfterDraw (Jan 18, 2010 23:00)

Originally posted by ThePastor:

If he doesn't like it why doesn't he use some of that Socialist Brain Trust and build his own "Socialist loving" "Capitolist hating" propoganda games of his own?

You silly boy. "Chavez as dictator" is US propaganda. He's one of the few South American leaders that isn't a corrupt puppet of the United States.

He may be a crazy evil monster that eats the fluffy kittens of Jesus, but it would be factually wrong to deny that he is a democratically elected leader and not a dictator.

So there!

Comment by: ThePastor (Jan 18, 2010 23:19)

Yeah, Castro and Sadam Husain were "duly elected" as well...

But, I didn't say anything about him being "elected". I said he was a Socialist.

Comment by: Interestx (Jan 18, 2010 23:40)

Originally posted by ThePastor:
Yeah, Castro and Sadam Husain were "duly elected" as well...

Except Venezuela had international monitoring on the elections Chavez won.

Like him or not the fact is he genuinely did top the popular vote, freely & fairly.
Twice in open free & fair elections - and both times under the scrutiny of respected outside international observers.

Originally posted by ThePastor:
I didn't say anything about him being "elected". I said he was a Socialist.

True, I'm just wondering what the big deal about that is?

Particularly in a country where, until Chavez came along, it was a corrupt undemocratic puppet US client state where the vast majority of the people were locked out of a share of Venezuela's vast natural wealth.

Why do you think Chavez was elected if not to redress this incredible disparity which the previous 'establishment' had ignored entirely?

I wonder, does the term 'socialist' entitle a complete disregard for the will of the majority of the Venezuelan people?
I'm willing to bet amongst some of the more fascist minded it does.
A 'socialist' state booting out the old puppets, nationalising a share of the wealth for the people & reaping the benefit of highly priced oil money.
Which is set to continue rising.
I bet some are choking hard having to put up with that one!

Comment by: ThePastor (Jan 18, 2010 23:53)

I suppose that if you think that a country which does not allow the free expression of ideas, like in a simple Play Station Game is somehow good, then bully for you.

And if I've not been clear enough, ... yes, I'm saying that SOCIALISM is BAD... and CAPITOLISM is GOOD.

Our country, on its very worst day is a hundred thousand times better than ANY socialistic country on its best day.

Comment by: windsong (Jan 18, 2010 23:56)

Someone should give him a copy of Tropico 3. Dictatorship a la king!

Comment by: PekinDuck (Jan 19, 2010 00:18)

Typical right wing Americans, taking trash from Fox News as the absolute truth while automatically associating "socialism" with dictatorships. I'm glad Chavez tells as it is and sticks it to the US, especially considering that the US actually sponsored real dictators in the region via financial backings and coups, particularly the murderous Pinochet and Videla regimes that murdered some 30,000 political enemies and forced others to disappear.

There's Hillary Clinton and Joe Lieberman that regularly rails against video games, I guess that makes the US a dictatorship right?

Comment by: mrp73 (Jan 19, 2010 00:59)

Okay, I'm stuck on the 4th level of Ruthless Dictator 3 and can't get past the talking onion. It frustrated me so much I ran out to a pawn shop and bought a 2 Live Crew cassette. Oh yeah it had a parental warning but if I've learned anything from my PS it's to spit in the face of rules.

Oh my God maybe he's right. What have I become?!

Comment by: kragshot (Jan 19, 2010 02:38)

"Those games they call 'PlayStation' are poison. Some games teach you to kill. They once put my face on a game, 'you've got to find Chavez to kill him.'"

That's what his dumb-ass gets for being a dictator...as if somebody wasn't going to make fun of his insane-ass....

Now I want to go and buy that game just to get a screencap of me putting a cap in his ass and send the pic to him!

Comment by: H08 (Jan 19, 2010 02:57)

Originally posted by PekinDuck:
Typical right wing Americans, taking trash from Fox News as the absolute truth while automatically associating "socialism" with dictatorships. I'm glad Chavez tells as it is and sticks it to the US, especially considering that the US actually sponsored real dictators in the region via financial backings and coups, particularly the murderous Pinochet and Videla regimes that murdered some 30,000 political enemies and forced others to disappear.

There's Hillary Clinton and Joe Lieberman that regularly rails against video games, I guess that makes the US a dictatorship right?

haha this is too funny, I cant believe your infering that chavez is better then the U.S.

Originally posted by ThePastor:
I suppose that if you think that a country which does not allow the free expression of ideas, like in a simple Play Station Game is somehow good, then bully for you.

And if I've not been clear enough, ... yes, I'm saying that SOCIALISM is BAD... and CAPITOLISM is GOOD.

Our country, on its very worst day is a hundred thousand times better than ANY socialistic country on its best day.

i agree 100%

Comment by: fgamer (Jan 19, 2010 04:04)

I know Sony is using it as propaganda to hell the tobacco industry. Sony wants to make money, and gaming is a form of past time. I think these nut cases have so much time on their hands that they need to come up with silly fairy tales or conspiracies. No ones making me buy anything..some people like RPG games, does that mean they are teaching people to summon the god of sun to send a bolt of hot blazing sun to kill people?

Comment by: xboxdvl2 (Jan 19, 2010 04:21)

before you start complaining about playstation games has any one heard of the army????they take recuites and teach them to use weapons and kill people so if its in real life why cant it be on a playstation game.
Ive actually never noticed anyone smoking or taking drugs in a playstation game where are these so called games that promote drug taking and smoking????BTW its not easy to smoke a cigarette while using a playstation control.its even harder to roll a joint while playing a PS game.
I dont know if Hugo Chavez is a dictator or not but there must be a good reason people are calling him one.


PS2 with 12 games.

Comment by: siber (Jan 19, 2010 05:28)

What's Capitolism?

Comment by: sam1dog (Jan 19, 2010 07:36)

He's a Dictator. Plain and simple. I can't believe some people are dumb enough on here to defend that a$$hole. He's the same guy who changed his own country's constituion so he could be President a 3rd term. Imagine if any U.S. President ever tried to pull that b.s.

Plus he hates America. But it seem like a few people on this board due as well.

Comment by: sam1dog (Jan 19, 2010 07:37)

He's a Dictator. Plain and simple. I can't believe some people are dumb enough on here to defend that a$$hole. He's the same guy who changed his own country's constituion so he could be President a 3rd term. Imagine if any U.S. President ever tried to pull that b.s.

Plus he hates America. But it seem like a few people on this board do as well.

Comment by: DXR88 (Jan 19, 2010 07:45)

Originally posted by fgamer:
I know Sony is using it as propaganda to hell the tobacco industry. Sony wants to make money, and gaming is a form of past time. I think these nut cases have so much time on their hands that they need to come up with silly fairy tales or conspiracies. No ones making me buy anything..some people like RPG games, does that mean they are teaching people to summon the god of sun to send a bolt of hot blazing sun to kill people?

I like RPG games too, your favorite game an RPG and a little ducktape.
that makes one RPG Game.


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Comment by: siber (Jan 19, 2010 08:07)

It always amazes me that conservative Americans remain so defensive about any type of criticism. Making a critical comment about "The Right Wing", leads inevitably to accusations of People/the Media/the World "hating America"...

The Constitution of Venezuela concerning presidential terms was not "changed by Chavez" but voted into law in a National Referendum by the citizens of Venezuela in (I think) December 2007. It was part of a whole list of constitutional changes.

I believe Chavez is a very questionable personality and a loose cannon who makes often unwise or ridiculous statements. He would be much better off keeping his mouth shut most of the time. He is very
critical of the American Government and multi-national business interests. Some of his criticism is appropriate, some of it is weird, laughable and not at all helpful to his own cause.

Comment by: Interestx (Jan 19, 2010 19:16)

Originally posted by siber:

The Constitution of Venezuela concerning presidential terms was not "changed by Chavez" but voted into law in a National Referendum by the citizens of Venezuela in (I think) December 2007.
It was part of a whole list of constitutional changes.

Correct.
This was the 2nd of the 2 referendums I mentioned.

He is no fan of the USA - and if you know anything about how the USA backed the previous small elite (and to a lesser degree a small middle class) who then enjoyed the oil wealth in Venezuela - it's no surprise.
You'd also know how the majority of the population got next to nothing & were harshly treated by those undemocratic thugs.

You might begin to have a clue as to why 'the people' tend to love Chavez and why they keep voting for him.

It would also become quickly obvious how come 'the people' couldn't give a damn about him closing out the members of that previous establishment and their media pals.
Especially as they have gone so far as to attempt an actual coup, organised oil strikes to shut down the country and regularly try to spread misinformation & propaganda to destabilise the democratically elected Gov of Venezuela.

Those anti-democratic efforts were in fact, every time, beaten off by the actions of 'the people' who came out on to the streets in their hundreds of thousands to defend their democratically elected Gov.

Still, it is illuminating.
No matter how much the facts get posted the 'Fox friend' element prefer to believe the lies.

However hard it is to accept the truth is that Chavez is a democratically elected leader, he did win free and fair (and outside observed & verified) elections.

Elections which laugh in the face of those held in the USA in 2000 & 2004.

Obviously some are only concerned with 'democracy' when it produces a result they approve of.

Venezuela has oil and Chavez is for 'the people' not obvious narrow US interests.

Chavez is probably being sensible to be so publicly antagonistic & denounce the US......it's not like the USA doesn't have a history of trumping up allegations and arbitrarily invading foreign countries (with huge natural resources) to force 'regime change' in countries which then act in the interests of the USA, is it?

He's not the only one either, Bolivia and Brazil are also sympathetic to the 'Chavez line'.

South America has by and large had a belly-full of the USA's 'Monroe Doctrine'
(which long ago stopped having anything to do with Europe and became all about being the USA's property/back yard)
and are simply telling the USA where to get off.
It was always bound to happen some time.
Part of the US right-wing's response top that is to pretend anyone not 'with them' must be a commie out to threaten the region & drop WMDs all around them.
They're pretty obvious.

Hopefully Obama & Co. will be much more reasonable and defuse the tensions sensibly.

Comment by: decoder9 (Jan 19, 2010 21:50)

What a fag! He needs to quit being a crybaby towards everything. Seems like he just randomly tries to find an excuse to talk shit. I hope he provokes Obama enough and we send some troops to blow his ass up!!!!!!

Comment by: Scaldari (Jan 21, 2010 15:22)

Why all the US good US bad based on a video game console system, Sony is a japan based company. blame them! LOL have you SEEN some of the stuff they release over there that never hits US markets. some of the violence puts us to shame!

Comment by: DXR88 (Jan 21, 2010 18:43)

Originally posted by Scaldari:
Why all the US good US bad based on a video game console system, Sony is a japan based company. blame them! LOL have you SEEN some of the stuff they release over there that never hits US markets. some of the violence puts us to shame!

not to mention there line of H-games.

Comment by: IguanaC64 (Jan 21, 2010 21:12)

Capitalism is not good and Socialism is not bad...nor is Socialism good and Capitalism bad. The are financial systems. Each has its own merits and problems. At extremes, both systems are bad. There are certain things each system does better than the other. Capitalism is great for advancing society, but only if there's a buck in it. Socialism is good for managing your society if there's not a buck in it. Personally, I *LIKE* my socialist roads and highways here in America that we all paid for...I would prefer *NOT* to pay tolls on every road I drive if they were owned by "for profit" companies.

Additionally, if you don't know the history of US involvement in regime change in South America, you will never understand why Chavez is so popular. Learn your history.

All that being said...he says some really stupid shit. Same crap a bunch of people here in the US say.

Comment by: lesgab (Jan 22, 2010 15:28)

Socialism,Democtacy,Theocracy,etc.Unless we do. None of them work.

   

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