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Comment by: Matt898 (Jun 20, 2009 02:07)

if this price cut does not come soon this really could be a possibility, The PS2 is almost on the 10year mark and Sony has clearly said no more PS2 after that. and the PS3 and PSP are the 2 lowest selling consoles. So it could be chance that this could happen. Although I agree that Activision would have to be totatly stupid to abandon the most powerfull console with the most potential. But ya never know.

Comment by: zachier (Jun 20, 2009 02:37)

Activision is a crappy developer/publisher anyway, so why should Sony feel threatened?. If it weren't for the Call of Duty series, I would've never purchased a game developed/published by them.

Hell, it's like a lazy, good-for-nothing employee, threatening his employer that he'd quit his job if he doesn't get a raise.

Don't make me laugh, Activision.

Comment by: MrPuffin (Jun 20, 2009 06:41)

i personaly think they need to drop there prices anyway as ive been wanting to get a ps3 but my only problem is its double the price of others with not all that many games but in genral its a good high quality system

Comment by: SSSJDanny (Jun 20, 2009 06:42)

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ps4 better have resolution better than 1080p, by then it should be in the 2000's

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it will have 2160P lol (btw that is actually being made)

Comment by: xnonsuchx (Jun 20, 2009 11:11)

Originally posted by Matt898:

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if this price cut does not come soon this really could be a possibility, The PS2 is almost on the 10year mark and Sony has clearly said no more PS2 after that. and the PS3 and PSP are the 2 lowest selling consoles. So it could be chance that this could happen. Although I agree that Activision would have to be totatly stupid to abandon the most powerfull console with the most potential. But ya never know.

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Umm, Sony has NOT said that. They said at E3 they will make PS2s for as long as there is enough demand for them (which there still is and is expected to be for another 2-3+ years).

Comment by: xnonsuchx (Jun 20, 2009 11:14)

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Originally posted by jetyi83:

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ps4 better have resolution better than 1080p, by then it should be in the 2000's

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it will have 2160P lol (btw that is actually being made)

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Guess I better not move to a bigger place because my apt can't realistically handle a 50"+ HDTV to make 2160p worthwhile. Yeah, I know higher HD is in the works (even above 2160p), but 1080p if fine for at least the next 4-5 years.

Comment by: Matt898 (Jun 20, 2009 14:14)

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if this price cut does not come soon this really could be a possibility, The PS2 is almost on the 10year mark and Sony has clearly said no more PS2 after that. and the PS3 and PSP are the 2 lowest selling consoles. So it could be chance that this could happen. Although I agree that Activision would have to be totatly stupid to abandon the most powerfull console with the most potential. But ya never know.

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Umm, Sony has NOT said that. They said at E3 they will make PS2s for as long as there is enough demand for them (which there still is and is expected to be for another 2-3+ years).

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They said they would produce them until the demand is not there anymore which they were expecting to be about the 10year mark. The point is the PS2 is last generation, PS3 is the current generation. I don't think activison would suffer that much if they dropped PS3 considering how much money it cost to develop a title for a specific console and how little the demand for the PS3 is now. Sony needs to drop consider that fact they aren't the Video Game Console mega powerhouse they used to be and just because there system comes with BD built-in and the console says Playstation on doesnt mean there gonna be the system everyone wants. Nintendo and Microsoft have done too good of a job to allow sony to charge 400bucks for a game system and that be OK. With that in mind why wouldn't a game developer want to concentrate more on consoles that are selling?

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 20, 2009 14:26)

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Originally posted by Matt898:

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if this price cut does not come soon this really could be a possibility, The PS2 is almost on the 10year mark and Sony has clearly said no more PS2 after that. and the PS3 and PSP are the 2 lowest selling consoles. So it could be chance that this could happen. Although I agree that Activision would have to be totatly stupid to abandon the most powerfull console with the most potential. But ya never know.

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Umm, Sony has NOT said that. They said at E3 they will make PS2s for as long as there is enough demand for them (which there still is and is expected to be for another 2-3+ years).

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They said they would produce them until the demand is not there anymore which they were expecting to be about the 10year mark. The point is the PS2 is last generation, PS3 is the current generation. I don't think activison would suffer that much if they dropped PS3 considering how much money it cost to develop a title for a specific console and how little the demand for the PS3 is now. Sony needs to drop consider that fact they aren't the Video Game Console mega powerhouse they used to be and just because there system comes with BD built-in and the console says Playstation on doesnt mean there gonna be the system everyone wants. Nintendo and Microsoft have done too good of a job to allow sony to charge 400bucks for a game system and that be OK. With that in mind why wouldn't a game developer want to concentrate more on consoles that are selling?

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Err...PSP and PS3 have already been mentioned to be a large chuck of their game profits, they can't afford it.

Comment by: LissenUp (Jun 20, 2009 15:31)

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:

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Meh raise the price of the consoles half the price of games...twice....that is what is really needed..... maybe even a vendor setup for the hardware so anyone can build the hardware via license......

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I've never read such incomprehensible gibberish that makes no sense. Does the nickname Zippy come from speaking too fast and hence writing what you're speaking???

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 20, 2009 15:39)

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Meh raise the price of the consoles half the price of games...twice....that is what is really needed..... maybe even a vendor setup for the hardware so anyone can build the hardware via license......

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I've never read such incomprehensible gibberish that makes no sense. Does the nickname Zippy come from speaking too fast and hence writing what you're speaking???

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Zippy speak FTW,another cost...er...victim served!!
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Its a simple train of thought really keep the cost of the hardware up and lower the price of the software by half, this would make up for the lack of polish and qaulity for modern gaming.

But in the end universal hardware (like the DVD forum) would be a better setup, you have 2 or 3 hardware/software forums that plan the architecture and peripherals, to build the hardware a vendor or manufacture buys the rights to do so, to put software on it the publisher/developer buys the right to do so.

This means the vendor/manufacture can compete with each other for price and make all in one units, it would be a much more open market with faster coverage of hardware and software than the current exclusive driven console war model.

Comment by: Morreale (Jun 21, 2009 03:34)

I could care less about Activision, I don't like any of their games...

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 21, 2009 03:46)

Originally posted by Morreale:

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I could care less about Activision, I don't like any of their games...

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Don't care about daiblo,star craft or war craft(wow excluded of corse)?

Comment by: Morreale (Jun 21, 2009 04:12)

Diablo is awesome but its a PC game so wtf.

Comment by: Mik3h (Jun 21, 2009 14:08)

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I could care less about Activision, I don't like any of their games...

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Don't care about daiblo,star craft or war craft(wow excluded of corse)?

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Why is WoW excluded? It has made the most money out of any video game released and it has the highest number of players out of any other game too. Afterdawn recently reported how WoW continues to dominate, accounting for 44 percent of all total minutes played in the month

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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 21, 2009 14:49)

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Originally posted by Morreale:

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I could care less about Activision, I don't like any of their games...

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Don't care about daiblo,star craft or war craft(wow excluded of corse)?

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Why is WoW excluded? It has made the most money out of any video game released and it has the highest number of players out of any other game too. Afterdawn recently reported how WoW continues to dominate, accounting for 44 percent of all total minutes played in the month

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It sucks,its a MMO it can not compare with a proper single player game...on any level.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 21, 2009 14:51)

Originally posted by Morreale:

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Diablo is awesome but its a PC game so wtf.

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Which is published by Activision and will be on the consoles like Star Craft 2, welcome the next level....of crap. :P

Comment by: SgtDavis (Jun 21, 2009 17:54)

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Originally posted by Morreale:

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I could care less about Activision, I don't like any of their games...

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Don't care about daiblo,star craft or war craft(wow excluded of corse)?

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Why is WoW excluded? It has made the most money out of any video game released and it has the highest number of players out of any other game too. Afterdawn recently reported how WoW continues to dominate, accounting for 44 percent of all total minutes played in the month

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It sucks,its a MMO it can not compare with a proper single player game...on any level.

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Of course it cant compare with a SP game: because its not. That's like comparing a racing game to a shooter.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 21, 2009 18:12)

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Originally posted by Morreale:

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I could care less about Activision, I don't like any of their games...

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Don't care about daiblo,star craft or war craft(wow excluded of corse)?

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Why is WoW excluded? It has made the most money out of any video game released and it has the highest number of players out of any other game too. Afterdawn recently reported how WoW continues to dominate, accounting for 44 percent of all total minutes played in the month

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It sucks,its a MMO it can not compare with a proper single player game...on any level.

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Of course it cant compare with a SP game: because its not. That's like comparing a racing game to a shooter.

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Not really more like comparing a SP FPS like Bioshock,Dues ex or dark messiah to a online FPS with weak as sht weapons,obscure rules and endlessly bland and convoluted story....or like Dark messhia with worse gameplay.... LOL

Comment by: borhan9 (Jun 21, 2009 22:47)

There is no console out there atm really challenging the PS3 with what features it has and the new generation of games etc... this is why the price has not dropped Sony does not feel that there position is threatened yet. When Nintendo or Microsoft come up with a substantial alternative that challenges Sony's position then maybe they will drop their prices.

Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 21, 2009 22:52)

Originally posted by borhan9:

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There is no console out there atm really challenging the PS3 with what features it has and the new generation of games etc... this is why the price has not dropped Sony does not feel that there position is threatened yet. When Nintendo or Microsoft come up with a substantial alternative that challenges Sony's position then maybe they will drop their prices.

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Ummmm..... over state much? The 360 is still the better platform to sell products on.

Sony has no real stable position other than their brand and via oversight and stupidity has yet to catch up with the rest......

Comment by: Oner (Jun 22, 2009 12:47)

Sorry Zip but I have to agree with borhan9 on this one, the PS3 comes at a cost because of the features it has that NO OTHER console can match (not even including the costly addons & fees etc it's competitors charge for). As for playing "catch up" it's all in how you look at ALL of the information ~ the only reason the 360 has a "lead" is because of it's 1 year head start, and even then it's trumped up numbers because of RROD/RLOD/E74 etc. The PS3 continues to outpace the 360 in sales since LTD so it's just a matter of time...but the bottom line is that the PS3 is selling more consoles in the same time frame as a 360 at nearly twice the price. So how is that bad?

But on topic, Activision is absolutely talking BS about not supporting the PS3 because that will jeopardize their standings with Sony itself. The fact is how can they give up on a brand that has made them MORE money than it's competitors last year? This applies to EA, Ubisoft and others as well.

The current total sales are about 23 Mill PS3 vs 30 Mill 360, that is not a "commanding lead" and is less than the launch deficit the PS3 was down by because of the head start MS had. So when you really look at it MS is the one who is in trouble because they are selling the 360 at a cheaper price than the Wii and STILL got passed by them and are also being outsold on the back end by Sony who has a higher cost console! Now THAT doesn't look good...


Edit: I forgot to add it's funny how Activision is talking all this crap about a price drop and cost etc. but yet they charge for overpriced peripherals like Guitars ($120) and Skateboard controllers ($120)

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Comment by: ZippyDSM (Jun 22, 2009 14:42)

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Sorry Zip but I have to agree with borhan9 on this one, the PS3 comes at a cost because of the features it has that NO OTHER console can match (not even including the costly addons & fees etc it's competitors charge for). As for playing "catch up" it's all in how you look at ALL of the information ~ the only reason the 360 has a "lead" is because of it's 1 year head start, and even then it's trumped up numbers because of RROD/RLOD/E74 etc. The PS3 continues to outpace the 360 in sales since LTD so it's just a matter of time...but the bottom line is that the PS3 is selling more consoles in the same time frame as a 360 at nearly twice the price. So how is that bad?

But on topic, Activision is absolutely talking BS about not supporting the PS3 because that will jeopardize their standings with Sony itself. The fact is how can they give up on a brand that has made them MORE money than it's competitors last year? This applies to EA, Ubisoft and others as well.

The current total sales are about 23 Mill PS3 vs 30 Mill 360, that is not a "commanding lead" and is less than the launch deficit the PS3 was down by because of the head start MS had. So when you really look at it MS is the one who is in trouble because they are selling the 360 at a cheaper price than the Wii and STILL got passed by them and are also being outsold on the back end by Sony who has a higher cost console! Now THAT doesn't look good...


Edit: I forgot to add it's funny how Activision is talking all this crap about a price drop and cost etc. but yet they charge for overpriced peripherals like Guitars ($120) and Skateboard controllers ($120)

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No the reason why the 360 has a lead is because one dose not have to reinvent the wheel to code for the SOB, add price into the mix and there again its simple the 360 wins.

The PS3's features come at a cost bad poor optimization,price and by that poor sales less units on the street and thus it looks bad to developers.

The optimization issue is by far the PS3s Achilles heel it dose not matter much if the PS3 has the same numbers as the 360 add up optimization issues.

Now don't get me wrong the 360 made a killing on the front end, the WII made a profit jizzing on itself and the PS3 will make a profit on the back end of the generation but its not quite peaked yet.

Acti just wants another 10-20M PS3 units on the street so they can sell a few more copies....hell....sony should want that too......

Comment by: milkyoreo (Jun 22, 2009 14:54)

I'm starting to think Activision isn't worthy of the Call of Duty series.

Comment by: Se7ven (Jun 22, 2009 21:38)

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I'm starting to think Activision isn't worthy of the Call of Duty series.

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why they are really good games,and they look good on both consoles.

Comment by: milkyoreo (Jun 24, 2009 13:48)

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why they are really good games,and they look good on both consoles.

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Refer to the article above.