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Comment by: meXPvista (Jun 16, 2007 10:02)

I recieved my first 360 a week after its release. With in a year of first turning it on The reing of death was flashing away. First it was one red light then two then the whole ring. Xbox support at that time had no idea that they woud bebe recieving thousands of calls with the same problem. After sending in my first console I recieved my 2ND console about 2 weeks later, it had the flashing red ring of death with in a week. I sent that one in and recieved my 3RD console a month later. That was about 6 months ago. I bouht a cooling fan that plugs into the back of the console before I even turned the 3RD one on. No problems yet... It apears the fan is working, but it is very loud...

Comment by: scott2k7 (Jun 16, 2007 10:11)

if its the nyko intercooler dude they break xbox 360s trust me there is a thread somewhere on afterdawn its horrible it ruined all the contacts on his xbox and the intercooler but nyko said they would replace them but how long would they take

Comment by: Wild9 (Jun 16, 2007 11:54)

meXPvista, what size and voltage is your supplementary cooling fan? You can get ultra-quite one's - it's worth spending the extra.

Comment by: spydah (Jun 16, 2007 14:08)

I was a victim of the Inter Cooler burnout. Something is wrong with how they put that together because if you use it for a few months the connectors where your power cord go start to overheat and it will either burn out the 360 its self or fry your slot for your power cord and power cord.

Comment by: scott2k7 (Jun 16, 2007 14:38)

unlucky dude :(

Comment by: meXPvista (Jun 18, 2007 00:28)

no problems yet, my buddy has had the same one (he recomended it) for quite some time and has had no problems also...

Comment by: borhan9 (Jun 21, 2007 19:02)

They are some kewl cooling systems. With all these powerful gaming systems you would need more powerful cooling systems.

Comment by: fgamer (Jun 22, 2007 04:12)

My new 360 that Microsoft is fitted with this new heat-sink, I didn't want to take any chances messing with the sticker so I took of the side grill and looked through the metal holes with a flash light or placed up to a lamp and I see the new heat-sink fitted in front of the power button...god I hope this avoids the 3 red lights...

Comment by: mikeg730 (Jun 24, 2007 20:32)

I'll just say a "freind's" launchday xbox36 died via red ring of death(lasted a year).. They sent a new one..so He puchased the NYKO 3 fan cooler. it worked great UNTIL...1 year later ..red rings again..then we all hear about the power/terminal issues... WELL, when the 3rd xbox arives after its replaced.."HE" is gonna take the power wires out of the cooling unit and hook them(red & black wires) to a 9v 300ma adapter, thus running the NYKO unit on it's OWN power and it will never come in contact with any electrical parts on/in the 360 itelf. The 3 fans run great with the separate AC adapter (10 bucks at Radio Shack) Anybody have any opinions on this brillant idea?

Comment by: villaj (Jun 29, 2007 17:33)

iv had my 360 for 6 months i first had to send it away for repair because the disk tray had frose and wouldnt load up i got it back a week later but they had replaced it now iv had the dreaded 3 rings so sent it away again they are currently fitting a new cooler system thats great but they have had my xbox for over a month now and its still 2 weeks off returning according to them compo coming my way i think! still its done my head in waiting all this time hopefully i can have the next 6 months problem free anybody who has to send in there 360 for repair prepare for a very long wait

Comment by: DoomLight (Jun 29, 2007 19:09)

this might be a little off the wall. but my 360 started acting gay around the time i got Forza.... and i've been reading on forza's sites forums that the game causes some 360's to fail. bout 1000 systems so far. so maybe someof these games cause the system to crash beyond recovery...

and update. week 2 and no 360 repaired from Msoft. i think they are tryin to make me get another system from someone else.

Comment by: sammorris (Jun 30, 2007 03:05)

Some games always demand more from consoles than others, it's the case with PC games, so why not 360 games. Gears of War is another famous boxbreaker. Note how original xbox games rarely bring on the ring of death.

Comment by: evilseed (Jul 28, 2007 18:28)

I fixed the problem since I had already taken apart my xbox to paint the case, so warranty is bye bye...
it wasnt a bad fix,
I found out that thier cooling fans in the back are 12 volt but only have 5 volts running to them so I ran a new wire from the dvd rom cable that was 12 volt to the rear cooling fans and then I dug up an old CPU fan from an old computer and mounted it to the front of the heat sink pushing more air through to the back and out the case.
Now it is much louder but its not hot at all and I can finally play DIRT
without the game freezing up...

it only took me a total of an hour and a half to fix and that time included me looking up the info I needed to find the proper wire for the 12 volts .. the hardest part is really opening the case. but M$
really needs to quit half-assing products and just admit they screwed up sure viva pinata and oither non demanding games play fine . but any game that has good graphics and the need for some real power the xbox poops out ...
My xbox works great now and I highly recommend having this mod done..
because Micro$oft has problems admitting they screwed up and only fixing the one when people complain when they should be doing a recall

just google it or go to llama or xbox scene they have lots of info on it.
why ask micro$oft ?.... go to the people that really know what they are talking about .
I swear the next system M$ puts out they really need to give one to those guys/gals at llama or xbox scene and have them show them how to put out quality merchandise LOL

Comment by: sammorris (Jul 28, 2007 18:32)

It seems funny this article gets a new post today, after a month of inactivity. Today is when the red ring of death happened to our communal console. However, simply turning it off and leaving it for an hour, coming down and turning it back on again, it worked fine for the half hour game of PGR3 I had. However, you're right about the cooling fans. I can clearly tell they're low voltage because of how loud they are for Delta fans. At full pelt Delta fans scream, but the ones in the 360 really don't sound like they're working that hard.

Comment by: scott2k7 (Jul 28, 2007 18:37)

i bought a fan once and that gave me the 3 lights of death but it was alright wen i didnt start it with the controller and i had 2 have the tv chanel on for some reason it was really bad so i took it of and its fine i had the 3 lights once wen playin smackdown vs raw 2007 online and i was pooing myself thinkin its gunna say it again but now i need a new saints row disk i bout like the third disk sinse christmas i bought a new one the other day and my xbox fell over so it had a massive lasere mark on it now i use the old one because the laser mark scratched off my mum wouldnt be to happy to buy another and neither am i wasting my own money i am a bit silly i no but lifes hard get used to it!

Comment by: sammorris (Jul 28, 2007 19:03)

Yeah, one of our discs is a little scraped.

You do realise we're talking about the internal fans? Those fan 'addons' ALWAYS make the situation worse. Think about it. Those fans are no more powerful than the ones there before, so what are they doing? They can't pull any additional air through the same holes, so all they do is generate extra noise.

Comment by: scott2k7 (Jul 28, 2007 19:09)

they are so loud it is unreal! like if they made an extra hole or case etc. that would be better and they should make the fans the full 12v for a start they would waste less money with people sending there xbox 360s back!

Comment by: sammorris (Jul 28, 2007 19:12)

People would be put off by the noise. Have you heard that fan at 4000rpm? I rigged up a fan from an original crystal xbox (it's the same fan) to a 12V supply. Holy cow it's loud, and that was just one, let alone two. Besides, the problem is partly due to the lack of ventilation of the case. Note how the fans cool nothing but the CPU and GPU due to those ducts. What about the warm air in the case?

Comment by: scott2k7 (Jul 28, 2007 19:15)

i suppose yer cos like if i went on it wen my xbox wen my mum and dad in bed its really loud so i try to do stuff so the disk doesnt spin at all hardly i would like a switch to the fans powerful or not or to swap fans

Comment by: evilseed (Jul 29, 2007 10:18)

Originally posted by scott2k7:

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i bought a fan once and that gave me the 3 lights of death but it was alright wen i didnt start it with the controller and i had 2 have the tv chanel on for some reason it was really bad so i took it of and its fine i had the 3 lights once wen playin smackdown vs raw 2007 online and i was pooing myself thinkin its gunna say it again but now i need a new saints row disk i bout like the third disk sinse christmas i bought a new one the other day and my xbox fell over so it had a massive lasere mark on it now i use the old one because the laser mark scratched off my mum wouldnt be to happy to buy another and neither am i wasting my own money i am a bit silly i no but lifes hard get used to it!

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it depends on where you hooked up the fan...
if you are talking about those ones that snap on the back some have been known to mess up the power supply..

but if it was internal it may have been hooked up to the wrong
spot

Comment by: evilseed (Jul 29, 2007 10:36)

Originally posted by sammorris:

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People would be put off by the noise. Have you heard that fan at 4000rpm? I rigged up a fan from an original crystal xbox (it's the same fan) to a 12V supply. Holy cow it's loud, and that was just one, let alone two. Besides, the problem is partly due to the lack of ventilation of the case. Note how the fans cool nothing but the CPU and GPU due to those ducts. What about the warm air in the case?

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Thats what I was saying about M$ putting out poor quality merchandise...
a little research and development problably would have concluded that the case was too small and poorly designed..

personally I think there should be more room between the dvd rom and the GPU.
do you realize what the specs are for the 360?
Thats just alot of power and heat to be generated crammed into a small box with poor ventilation.
I even thought about taking mine out of the box and putting it in a PC case...
Dirt would still freeze with the case off of it so the Holes in the case theory is a wash I am sure it would help but with the case off,its nothing but air . and it still overheated. so either two options.
1. make the fans more powerful or add more or both(which is what I did.) and just deal with the noise.

2. Make it watercooled(there is many pc kits to do so) or use a peltier cooler(basically a mini refridgeration unit they use for those food coolers that you plug into the cigarette lighter in your car/truck) those run quiet and can cool it plenty enough to fix M$
mistakes

either options will stop the red ring of death.
read on the internet almost everyone who keeps geting the red ring and just turns it off for a while then trys again eventually has a pretty white brick they paid $400 for and now is worth spare parts.

Comment by: sammorris (Jul 29, 2007 10:46)

I know that, and that's why I've decided to leave my joint ownership of the unit. It was working when I last used it, so when it next does it, it's their problem. I don't want to be held responsible for the after-effects of poorly designed hardware.

Comment by: scott2k7 (Jul 29, 2007 13:26)

can u give me a link for a watercooled one or wotever they are because u said they dont make much noise
it will be much appreciated!

Comment by: evilseed (Jul 30, 2007 19:43)

Here you go, I believe they have all the links and such to the suppliers but you have to use a PC watercooled kit and mod it to fit xbox 360 .
It didnt look very complex if you are good working on PC's

http://www.nforcershq.com/article5082.html

Have fun let me know how it turns out I will problably do the same to mine but I wanted an immediete fix, without waiting for parts

Comment by: hamza3862 (Dec 23, 2007 14:32)

microsoft NEEDS TO SORT THIS OUT